Repeated healing should have some punishment

Today I was basing with my gang when another gang attacked us. Every time we got their health low they would run off and come back completely healed. I am not sure how widespread of a problem this is but it seems to occur a lot while basing. That's why I believe there should be some punishment like if you use a lot of food your speed starts to slowly decrease until you die. Please leave your ideas or feedback.

I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this thread if it is not please move it.

Idk it's not as bad as it used to be when there was a hit timer you could just heal up while being shot and survive.

So basically
Eat too much food = get fat and die

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Originally Posted by eden

So basically
Eat too much food = get fat and die

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Haha yea pretty much.

Bad idea. People will just use med kits.

People even run out of the base lol...

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Originally Posted by grass4m3

Bad idea. People will just use med kits.

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Then they'll die of medicine overdosage

Medkits are too damn expensive tho

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Originally Posted by eden

Then they'll die of medicine overdosage

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Not allowed. That would be considered drug overdose/irresponsible use of drugs. If apple saw that they would change rating of game to 17+ or whatever it is. This will warn parents, who if a good parent will not let there kids who are say 8 years old play a game rated 17+ for drug usage.

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Originally Posted by grass4m3

Not allowed. That would be considered drug overdose/irresponsible use of drugs. If apple saw that they would change rating of game to 17+ or whatever it is. This will warn parents, who if a good parent will not let there kids who are say 8 years old play a game rated 17+ for drug usage.

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Lol and you say I stalk you

It does not have to be that crazy just some effect that would make people consider just dying and respawning instead of running into another room and healing.

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Originally Posted by grass4m3

Not allowed. That would be considered drug overdose/irresponsible use of drugs. If apple saw that they would change rating of game to 17+ or whatever it is. This will warn parents, who if a good parent will not let there kids who are say 8 years old play a game rated 17+ for drug usage.

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In reality land, 8yr olds play damn battlefield and stuff like that. In otherwords, ratings are as useless as dascientists multiple accounts

Cough cough, taka, I love picking on you xD Im just messing with you

I was think about this to couldn't decide to post, i was thinking that food makes slow med kits are fine heart bombs are fine staffs are fine.

I dont think theres anything wrong with it

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Originally Posted by grass4m3

Not allowed. That would be considered drug overdose/irresponsible use of drugs. If apple saw that they would change rating of game to 17+ or whatever it is. This will warn parents, who if a good parent will not let there kids who are say 8 years old play a game rated 17+ for drug usage.

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The selling point of the game is to purchase assault riffles and join gangs.

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Originally Posted by Zaire Caedmon

Today I was basing with my gang when another gang attacked us. Every time we got their health low they would run off and come back completely healed. I am not sure how widespread of a problem this is but it seems to occur a lot while basing. That's why I believe there should be some punishment like if you use a lot of food your speed starts to slowly decrease until you die. Please leave your ideas or feedback.

I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this thread if it is not please move it.

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You see, healing, spamming, and running are not basically 'illegal' actions to do while basing/pking since healing is basically using ur food, spamming is basically pressing the fire button, and running is basically using the moving controls. Do not confuse these actions with the illegal stuff some players do (such as lag abuse, glitching, etc.) Anyways, back to your point, food is there to be used and should not have any side effects when you use it.

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Originally Posted by Mr Bojangles

The selling point of the game is to purchase assault riffles and join gangs.

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Exactly, it's already bordering the line of the App Store making it 17+ having drug overdoses will be pushing the border.

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Originally Posted by 3.X

Medkits are too damn expensive tho

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i utterly agree

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Originally Posted by grass4m3

Not allowed. That would be considered drug overdose/irresponsible use of drugs. If apple saw that they would change rating of game to 17+ or whatever it is. This will warn parents, who if a good parent will not let there kids who are say 8 years old play a game rated 17+ for drug usage.

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The loading screen is a man with guns and smoking a cigar... you can buy wine and broken tequila bottles. the game wouldn't suffer from drug overdose......

I thought about this specific thread while pking today. I've come to an idea that would make a lot angry, but repeated healing has become outrageously popular.
This would apply for food only, limit the amount of food consumable by the minute.. Say 10 food for 2 minutes which is pretty reasonable. This would limit the food, but kind of out a cap on it. Healing staffs and wands remain the same though.

Maybe no flag room if u enter until u die or u owner, no exit i mean, Or a fat meter. No, seriously, reach too high, u die.If u die, it resets. LOL no seriously.

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Originally Posted by Flame

Or a fat meter. No, seriously, reach too high, u die.If u die, it resets. LOL no seriously

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Lmao i love that idea, just instead of dying when you eat too much, you become slower, little bit faster than when poisoned by gas bombs, fatness lasts for 5mins after eating more than 15 food within 5minutes, and to get rid of it you need to go to the era gym and run on the treadmill for 30 secounds

No. There shouldn't consequence to healing while basing or pking. New weapons s are added every month and new tactics are born every day. People need ways to compete and repeated healing.
Seriously, it's just cruel o.e

nu NOOOOOOO NOOOO PUNISHMENT PLZZZZZZ

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Originally Posted by Rage

nu NOOOOOOO NOOOO PUNISHMENT PLZZZZZZ

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I take it you heal a bunch?

I don't think healing should be hotkeyed. But that's just one of many things that I believe ruin basing.
I feel sorry for this new generation. They don't experience the awesome raids I experienced back when.

Whenever I explain how Basing was in 2002-2006 PC Era to this generation, they're like, "Mind, Blown."

We didn't have gang points, we didn't have a capture point. These things weren't necessary because each gang had a base to defend, and that was the proving grounds for gang superiority. Taking over an opposing gang's base simply meant being there, PKing them. "If you want your base back, come get it." was the general mentality. Nothing says "I'm better than you" like sitting in your gang's lobby, PKing your members upon entry.

Often times gangs would switch the battle up by saying, "Okay, we'll we're going to raid your base now. Have fun in ours." The focus would then shift from attacking to defending. The good gangs were able to effectively do both simultaneously. Those of us that were good at leading would break our raid up: send half of the members to defend, while the others remain raiding. We'd win both battles.

Bases also had at least two entrances-- most had three: A main door, a garage door, and a sewer entrance. This gave gangs alternate ways to approach the situation: they could go full-force from one angle, or to tactfully go in waves from all angles in the effort to attack. Also, raiding or defending required members to be scattered throughout the base to cover all entrances from incoming threat.

It was all about tactics- this also gave lesser members to show initiative by leading a raid in the absence of a leader. Through respect for fellow members, modesty, active participation in gang activity, loyalty, and by demonstrating these qualities to lead a gang to victory in their own right, members earned their rank-ups.

Also, we didn't have healing items- if you got low on health, each gang base had a heal room with beds for you to heal in. If you were raiding/defending, and you got low in health, you depended on your fellow gang members to hold down the fight while you went to heal. You would then go back to the fight and if necessary, relieve your teammate by holding it down while he went to heal. Once again, it was leadership, and the use of tactics that dictated victory or defeat.

And when they died, they would be warped back to the hospital, and have to sit in a bed for 40 seconds to fully heal before walking back to the base. This meant they had 40 seconds to think about how they just got their *** kicked, plus the commute back to the base. It was all mental- To go back and suffer the same defeat again and again forced people to try and devise better ways to approach it, and leaders specifically to devise alternative ways to organize the raid/base recovery to save face for their gang's reputation.

These simplistic dynamics made basing ten-fold more exciting than it is now. Nowadays Basing lacks this level of intricacy. There's no planning- it's "go in, take the chest, protect it." This goal provides no wiggle room- no way of altering how somebody approaches it. It's cut and dry, and gets old quick. It kills PKing- People care more about protecting the chest than PKing, and it's because of this that gangs have divided themselves into either "Basing Gangs"(The protect-the-hive mentality) or "Sparring Gangs"(The mentality of applying skill for victory). The simplistic gang system we had in the past blended the two -- Basing meant people raided and defended bases through the application of PK skill.

The best gangs were the ones with the best leadership: after all, it's the leaders who dictated their member list. Adding an effective group of 10 good PKers could have taken on 50 so/so PKers with ease.

It also used to require more practice and finesse to be considered a good PKer. Guns back then had more freeze to them, so spamming bullets wasn't an effective strategy, because your movement was more impeded. It was the mastery of timing that equated to PK skill: weighing out when the best time to fire a shot(taking the freeze into consideration) against taking the chance to dodge bullets. Performing both tasks effectively is what made somebody a good fighter. There was no easy way out.

These, my friends, were the good ol' days.

A good way of looking at it Meph, I'll agree the hotkeying of food blew most of that experience. I miss when you would only go into the menu to heal after the battle was over and your team was cheering in victory. Now it's just the same repetitive fighting.

Oddly enough, I found healing to be a type of skill to be developed before the hotkeys of healing came in. You had to be good at multitasking as you scramble through the menu to heal yourself. That said though, it was poorly balanced between players. Players with larger inventories were at a disadvantage due to the inability to properly store your items for a cleaner inventory. Tablet users were also able to open their inventory while moving around. Players with smaller devices cannot do this as the menu covers their entire screen. Meaning their character will stand still while the menu is active.

The hotkey was one way of fixing the unbalanced gameplay between different device users and players with cluttered inventories. Although it introduced a new type of unbalanced gameplay where:
-Streaking is a lot easier
-Basing is a food eating competition
-Low tiered weapons cannot kill heal spammers (It's practically impossible! Low damage per second guns cannot out damage the heal rate of the healers)

punishment for healing thats dumb

i dont like wen i try to kill ppl and they run away to heal but ther shouldnt be punishment thats just dumb

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Originally Posted by Katbot

I agree with Meph 100%. In addition to today's flawed raiding system, there was a time when only the most skillful players possessed rare weapons like Mp5s. Obtaining those weapons was capable through winning major events by demonstrating your superior ability to spar, raid, and pk. They started from the bottom and practiced for hours, days, weeks, months, and in some cases even years to perfect their style of fighting.

Players like Wil, Corey, Smasher, Arc, Raven, Meph/Diaz, just to name a few that I can think of off the top of my head, are capable of pking with ANY gun you give them, because they are skilled THROUGH PRACTICE. Those that didn't want to put in their time to practice chose to obtain those weapons by mining and picking flowers, thus buying them off the players who won them. Doing that kind of labor to afford rare guns would take months upon months. What I'm trying to say is that nothing came easy, you had to work hard in order to get the things you wanted much like in real life.

The generation of Era players today doesn't have to do any of that, all they focus on is obtaining an Mp5 through betflipping and once they have the gun they just hold D and wall. Take away the Mp5/Souizen and they don't now how to defend themselves. Same goes for raiding, logic and tactics don't exist anymore, it's nothing more than a brainless pack of kids without any leadership charging into a base without a plan. The guys with the biggest guns win by laming and eating food.

The gang admin needs to make a wise decision and bring back the original bases, 4 gangs, and remove food/elixers/armor inside gang bases. Perhaps that could influence the kids of today to start using their brains.

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^ KatBot's Referring to PC Era, to clear up confusion.

This is the iEra Forums pal :D
You should get on iEra, man; it's more happening than PC Era nowadays.

Dang era pc is interesting might check it out sometime, and anyways, there should be mo punishment for healing. People who have bar or pbp while streaking just run around spraying and when they are low they run and heal nothing wrong with that?

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Originally Posted by Quizz

Dang era pc is interesting might check it out sometime, and anyways, there should be mo punishment for healing. People who have bar or pbp while streaking just run around spraying and when they are low they run and heal nothing wrong with that?

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PC Era has been getting progressively worse since 2006. Nowadays their guns have hardly any freeze to them, meaning there is absolutely no repercussions for spamming since your movement isn't impeded when you fire a shot. This makes it very easy for people to pick up PKing, therefore not challenging at all.

While I think iEra's guns need about 0.04 freeze added to each of them, its currently much more challenging than PC Era. For a first-generation PC native to say this, it speaks volumes. Actually, if they released iEra to the PC clients, or made a standalone client specifically for the iOS servers, I'd wager more PC Era players would migrate here.


On the matter of healing items, I believe there should be a timer added. People are so reliant on healing items that I they undervalue the worth if good old fashioned PKing. After all, who needs skill when you can run around slamming hot dogs in your mouth at your leisure? Its kills gameplay. One healing item every 10 seconds would be reasonable.

Finish em quickly and don't let em escape, problem solved.

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Originally Posted by Flaiirz

Finish em quickly and don't let em escape, problem solved.

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I guess your just the greatest pker on graal. I'm sorry to have wasted your time with this thread.

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Originally Posted by Zaire Caedmon

I guess your just the greatest pker on graal. I'm sorry to have wasted your time with this thread.

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:p
I never said I was the best but it's the easiest thing to do, rather then let them escape.

I agree. This should be done with streakers too who run and heal at low health. Hah! Puzzies! I usually just shoot streakers and don't let them kill people. I make sure they are healing 24/7

How bout you have to wait 10 seconds to began healing.

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

Lmao i love that idea, just instead of dying when you eat too much, you become slower, little bit faster than when poisoned by gas bombs, fatness lasts for 5mins after eating more than 15 food within 5minutes, and to get rid of it you need to go to the era gym and run on the treadmill for 30 secounds

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LOL GREAT IDEA

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

Lmao i love that idea, just instead of dying when you eat too much, you become slower, little bit faster than when poisoned by gas bombs, fatness lasts for 5mins after eating more than 15 food within 5minutes, and to get rid of it you need to go to the era gym and run on the treadmill for 30 secounds

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LOL GREAT IDEA

PC Era's food system is great.

You eat a bubblegum item, and your HP goes up by 1/10. (This is a 5hp bonus, off the bat.) Then, you regain 5hp every 5 seconds, but you can't eat any more food. A little cooldown bar appears, it's about a minute between heals. You can't heal more than once, and if you use your heal, you're almost goated into fighting because you can't run, either. If you've shot someone, or been shot, you get a red "PK" sign over your head. If you go into a no-PK zone, you must stand there, still, for 5 seconds. If you run, the counter starts over. If someone else is ALSO in PK mode, (triggered by shooting a player outside of a no-PK), they can kill you while your timer cools down and you go back to no-PK mode. This is mostly to deter streakers from running and healing, forcing them to skill-up. Era iPhone isn't entirely skill-based, it's whoever executes their running/healing strategy the best.

This system, although confusing at first, could PROBABLY save Era iPhone's Streak and PK healers.

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Originally Posted by eden

So basically
Eat too much food = get fat and die

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Oh god.