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05-21-2019, 12:24 AM
JimmY1809

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Originally Posted by LYK08

Its up to the community to decide

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Your suggestion as a whole isn't good. But I LIKED, I mean, I LOVED item FOUR, that's why I mentioned it.
05-21-2019, 09:22 AM
LYK08

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Originally Posted by TemPro

i love this concept but i feel as players would boost there score by trading with other accounts or that players may get a fair trade but leave a bad review to troll but ill add to this concept if you dont mind what if there was also a machine or something you can grab to report a false review a trade admin can comfirm if it could be false or true

Pertaining to the issue of false reviews, as I have said, the items involved will be shown so the credibility of the review will be judged by the player when they look at the items involved.

If i did a fair trade of say, 1 shovel for 2 shells (which is the market rate) and someone leaves a bad review, then those who view my review will tell that the reviewer is trolling or overly pessimistic.

Players can choose to use fake accounts to trade, but their fake accounts will have to buy a trade permit as well as pay for every single trade that they undertake (which is going to be costly for anyone to want to rationally do it.) Imagine someone buying a trade plus and undertaking 20 trades with his main account - thats a total of nearly 1k gralats wasted, as well as time. Plus, if a guy decided to trade with them and they see their past 10 trades was done with the same guy using similar items repetitively, obviously they would know the review is faked.

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05-21-2019, 01:29 PM
DTL

A shoot here we go again, another trash idea
05-21-2019, 04:21 PM
Star*

Are you plagiarising from SGSecure? Do you want the whole SCDF to come repelling down the Chinook to subdue all passerby?

Been so long since I've used the forum and this is what I came back to, lol. Classic LYK.
05-21-2019, 05:48 PM
Mrpibbgraal

#4 is a good idea. I’d love to see my trade logs and things like that.
05-21-2019, 08:37 PM
Vance

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Originally Posted by LYK08

After many hours of thought, I have finally came up with a revolutionary way to reduce scams.

1. Trade reviews
Every player will have a trade profile displaying all the reviews if people who has transacted with him or her before. After every trade, both seller and buyer are allowed to leave reviews of the player and give a rating out of 10. These reviews are accessible at the player's profile, so every potential trader will be aware of the person's tendency to scam or lie etc.

The trade reviews camnot be removed unless the player changes trade pass.

The trade reviews will show the items in the trade. E.g., if you buy a shovel for 2 shells, and the trader tries to sabotage your reputatiom by leaving a bad rep, the items involved in the trade will be shown in the review as well, so the viewer judges for him or herself if the trade was fair.

If the person is an avid trader, only tge last 10 records will show. The older reviews will be removed BUT they will still affect the average rating (which will show in the trade profile). Meaning, if a player scams 50 times and gets 0 stars, and got 2 stars for 10 trades (which is shown in his trafe profile), his or her average rating will be 0.33, which is still bad.

2. Trade pass.

For players to trade they will need a trade pass that costs 500 gralats for a first time buy. It has no expiry date. The pass can be revoked only uf an admin catches the guy scamming. However, if a scammer consistently receives bad reviews, it will show on their trade profile. If they want to remove these bad reviews, they will have to replace their trade pass , which will cost 30k gralats (for 2nd time and beyond purchase)

This carries a clear message - trade properly or risk having a bad reputation. If you want to get rid of bad rep, its going to be costly as well, so its better to trade properly than to pay heavy prices.

3. Trade admin
If we are to get admins to regulate trade they will be working 24/7. But now if we get a trade admin, this admin will just have to ensure that the trade tables are functioning properly with no bugs or glicthes. If a glitch is suspected (either through say, a person trading an item but not receiving the item) the matter can be reported to the trade admin. The trade admin will investigate and if one party of the trade is found to be hacking or abusing glitch, the trade pass of that guy will be revoked and other punishments may follow.

4. Transaction logs

There could be a kiosk at trade centre showing the last 100 trades that took place at the centre. It will show the items involved, so players can have a reference price to sell or buy items so that they do not overpay or underpay.

Thank you.

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Item 4 is the only item I'd be on board with.

The rest aren't that good and the only reason why is because admins specifically state your items are your responsibility, and they can't do anything about scammers or when your items get scammed.

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05-21-2019, 09:43 PM
LYK08

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Originally Posted by AZN

Item 4 is the only item I'd be on board with.

The rest aren't that good and the only reason why is because admins specifically state your items are your responsibility, and they can't do anything about scammers or when your items get scammed.

AZN (Sent from my iPhone)

No you're missing the point here....

We fall victim to scams because we do not know the background of the other party well.

Having #1 allows us to know the trade history of the other party so we can decide if we are to go ahead with transaction. Being responsible is one thing, but we could only be responsible for our items if we know the tradjng habits of the other party through their trade reviews as I have suggested. Without that, even if you are superresponsible and you end up trading with a serial scammer theres no way for you to know.

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05-21-2019, 09:45 PM
LYK08

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Originally Posted by XSTARX

Are you plagiarising from SGSecure? Do you want the whole SCDF to come repelling down the Chinook to subdue all passerby?

Been so long since I've used the forum and this is what I came back to, lol. Classic LYK.

I dont use that App and i dont know what feature it has anyway. From what I know its not about trade and I definitely dont get what ever that follows from SCDF.

And yea, you are just as belligerent as ever now that you're back.

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05-21-2019, 09:50 PM
Vance

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Originally Posted by LYK08

No you're missing the point here....

We fall victim to scams because we do not know the background of the other party well.

Having #1 allows us to know the trade history of the other party so we can decide if we are to go ahead with transaction. Being responsible is one thing, but we could only be responsible for our items if we know the tradjng habits of the other party through their trade reviews as I have suggested. Without that, even if you are superresponsible and you end up trading with a serial scammer theres no way for you to know.

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See that would work if there weren't such things as boosting reputation stats and whatnot the scammers could use to make themselves seem legit. People aren't dumb, and many users have been using other tactics (such has having many friends say their casino is legit or having their friend severely overpay for a cheap item and declining their offer, making the item seem super rare) to scam other players. As the system grows, so does the intelligence of the people playing, and the system would soon just end up becoming another thing where traders bribe other users to +rep them for items or convince their friends to.

Maybe I'm missing something but I still think this idea isn't all that good.

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05-21-2019, 09:54 PM
LYK08

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Originally Posted by AZN

See that would work if there weren't such things as boosting reputation stats and whatnot the scammers could use to make themselves seem legit. People aren't dumb, and many users have been using other tactics (such has having many friends say their casino is legit or having their friend severely overpay for a cheap item and declining their offer, making the item seem super rare) to scam other players. As the system grows, so does the intelligence of the people playing, and the system would soon just end up becoming another thing where traders bribe other users to +rep them for items or convince their friends to.

Maybe I'm missing something but I still think this idea isn't all that good.

AZN (Sent from my iPhone)

Boosting reputation is one common issue but, if you were really scammed by a guy, would you , on his request, still give him a good reputation? And even if he or she was your friend, would you still befriend that person?

If the trade was fair and the person wanted to boost a little reputation, it won't matter because the reviews they get would alrwady be quite good in the first place since they traded fairly.

Trade permits is to ensure that traders take trading seriously and do not troll or hog trade tables without trading etc.

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