Minigun Nerf

#nerfmini i think it is really overpowered. make 4 damage at perfect share and it will be fine

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Originally Posted by SashaGryg

#nerfmini i think it is really overpowered. make 4 damage at perfect share and it will be fine

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4 damage at perfect shape won't make that big a difference; they can still spam the hell outta it on ppl running down the bridge, and get tons and tons of kills.

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look, mini is ez to beat in a 1v1 battle/spar, but has the power to get u more kills than any other gun in a very small amount of time.

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I was lucky enough to try a minigun on a friends account, and its ridiculous; I get 250 kills in 1 hour with a kap40 at bbz, and i got 600 in 1 hour with a minigun at bbz. So I thought, "I shouldn't compare a 200k gun to a 40k gun; lemme compare it to P2Ks." And the very, very funny thing is, i got 400 in 1 hr with p2ks, and I just lol'ed at the fact that p2ks require 100k kills and get less kills than a minigun...

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Originally Posted by #14 AJ

4 damage at perfect shape won't make that big a difference; they can still spam the hell outta it on ppl running down the bridge, and get tons and tons of kills.

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look, mini is ez to beat in a 1v1 battle/spar, but has the power to get u more kills than any other gun in a very small amount of time.

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I was lucky enough to try a minigun on a friends account, and its ridiculous; I get 250 kills in 1 hour with a kap40 at bbz, and i got 600 in 1 hour with a minigun at bbz. So I thought, "I shouldn't compare a 200k gun to a 40k gun; lemme compare it to P2Ks." And the very, very funny thing is, i got 400 in 1 hr with p2ks, and I just lol'ed at the fact that p2ks require 100k kills and get less kills than a minigun...

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Exactly.
Minigun doesn't have a place in Era UNLESS....it can be used in only this place: Underground Zombie Survival. Really,who the hell survives that long in it. I survived only a few rounds with an m16. Minigun would be used so much there.

i dont think so... and about difference. now mini kills with 10 bullets and if it will have 4 damage it will kill in 13 bullets. it is big difference on spar or base

Sasha you don't understand. No nerf will work unless they decrease bullets. But you can't cuz it's a minigun. So it needs to be removed. The bullets they currently have kill 400 an hour AJ says.

They always spawn kill you its so annoying

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Originally Posted by C00KI3M0NST3R

They always spawn kill you its so annoying

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Yup. Join us in this riot lol.
#ReturnMini

Haha

it is fine when 400 per hour because if you will find cool place you can make this kills with bar also. plus we have not got threads like this when we had 4 damage. then admins changed damage to 5 and it started to annoy every body

Nerfing will not help. All the guns are unbalanced because the system is flawed. I have said it many times and I shall say it again, change the health system to allow the guns to be balanced and fixed in a way that allows versatility and a real distinction between different types of guns.

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Originally Posted by Lord Greg

Nerfing will not help. All the guns are unbalanced because the system is flawed. I have said it many times and I shall say it again, change the health system to allow the guns to be balanced and fixed in a way that allows versatility and a real distinction between different types of guns.

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This is actually a better idea than getting rid of mini, thank you for bringing this up. The real problem is not the mini gun or it's user's, but the fact that the admins have been sloppy in balancing guns, their prices, and their kill and spar efficiency. Really the admins added mini and it threw off the balance of guns, then they thought nerfing BAR would help restore balance, but it just threw it off even farther. If they would actually take time to sit down and consider guns, their prices and their firepower, the system could easily be fixed.

I'm not trying to rip on the admins with this, but it really is true, I know they work really hard, but they need to think about guns in the long run and calculate their effect on Era rather than adding guns like mini out of nowhere.

^ 50 is such a good number...but with THESE guns,not anymore. Maybe make it 60-70? But idk cuz that leads to another problem. With SO many people that much health,it'll take FOREVER getting people out your base lol. Or it'll take forever streaking or moving noobs out your way,etc.

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Originally Posted by Zegshock

^ 50 is such a good number...but with THESE guns,not anymore. Maybe make it 60-70? But idk cuz that leads to another problem. With SO many people that much health,it'll take FOREVER getting people out your base lol. Or it'll take forever streaking or moving noobs out your way,etc.

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If health was changed to 100 and the guns were scaled then it would be fine. It would give a large amount of effective damages to allow guns to be different from each other.

Well then. I think we found the answer to this case? Now we shall wait for admins to do something....*2 years later*....Era has been temporarily shut down.

dont touch health! it have not been changed for 4 years of my play and many players say that it exists much more time. we need to make damage back to 4 and it will balance again. if we will change stats of health then will happen problem with starter guns or uzi so we will need to change stats of all the weapons. just make damage 4 to mini and if it will not help back it to the start when mini was not exist and give all players who had it 200k of their gralast

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changing of health will appear changing of stats of all weapons and then it will give to admins work for month and we will not see our country side

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Originally Posted by SashaGryg

dont touch health! it have not been changed for 4 years of my play and many players say that it exists much more time. we need to make damage back to 4 and it will balance again. if we will change stats of health then will happen problem with starter guns or uzi so we will need to change stats of all the weapons. just make damage 4 to mini and if it will not help back it to the start when mini was not exist and give all players who had it 200k of their gralast

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changing of health will appear changing of stats of all weapons and then it will give to admins work for month and we will not see our country side

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Patrick: Touuuuch. *Touches health*
Sasha: DON'T TOUCH!
Patrick: Touuuch. *Touches again*
Sasha: Didn't I just say don't touch?!
Patrick: Touuuch. *Touches once more*
Health: *runs away*
Patrick: HEALTH I LOVE YOU!!! *Runs after*

No. This is dumb. Minigun is slow as it is, reload is slow, running with it is slower than most guns,giving people using other guns the advantage already even when they are most likely using a gun more damage than the mini. You can easily take out/ take alot of health from a minigun user while they are reloading or shooting, it is easy to dodge as well since most of the bullets fire in a straight line with little spread. I have both the flamethrower and the minigun, I don't know what to use they are both good so I interchange them. If you find this a problem so much from supposedly being destroyed by a minigun, then buy one your self like the rest of us and maybe then you have a chance to defend yourself.It isn't always the gun its the skill to, and many other factors such as lag,your reaction time ect. I die while using a bar,pbp,minigun, flame thrower or my p2ks just as easily as anyone else, in fact noobs with a really cheap gun sometimes own me. Maybe once you have one you'll see how over exaggerated it really is. From what I heard EVERY gun had a 1 second delay added the first bullet fired in a clip which mostly effects automatic guns, you can tell when holding down the fire button sometimes, so in fact it just isn't your gun that got nerfed.

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Originally Posted by AceGraal

No. This is dumb. Minigun is slow as it is, reload is slow, running with it is slower than most guns,giving people using other guns the advantage already even when they are most likely using a gun more damage than the mini. You can easily take out/ take alot of health from a minigun user while they are reloading or shooting, it is easy to dodge as well since most of the bullets fire in a straight line with little spread. I have both the flamethrower and the minigun, I don't know what to use they are both good so I interchange them. If you find this a problem so much from supposedly being destroyed by a minigun, then buy one your self like the rest of us and maybe then you have a chance to defend yourself.It isn't always the gun its the skill to, and many other factors such as lag,your reaction time ect. I die while using a bar,pbp,minigun, flame thrower or my p2ks just as easily as anyone else, in fact noobs with a really cheap gun sometimes own me. Maybe once you have one you'll see how over exaggerated it really is. From what I heard EVERY gun had a 1 second delay added the first bullet fired in a clip which mostly effects automatic guns, you can tell when holding down the fire button sometimes, so in fact it just isn't your gun that got nerfed.

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Lol

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Originally Posted by AceGraal

No. This is dumb. Minigun is slow as it is, reload is slow, running with it is slower than most guns,giving people using other guns the advantage already even when they are most likely using a gun more damage than the mini. You can easily take out/ take alot of health from a minigun user while they are reloading or shooting, it is easy to dodge as well since most of the bullets fire in a straight line with little spread. I have both the flamethrower and the minigun, I don't know what to use they are both good so I interchange them. If you find this a problem so much from supposedly being destroyed by a minigun, then buy one your self like the rest of us and maybe then you have a chance to defend yourself.It isn't always the gun its the skill to, and many other factors such as lag,your reaction time ect. I die while using a bar,pbp,minigun, flame thrower or my p2ks just as easily as anyone else, in fact noobs with a really cheap gun sometimes own me. Maybe once you have one you'll see how over exaggerated it really is. From what I heard EVERY gun had a 1 second delay added the first bullet fired in a clip which mostly effects automatic guns, you can tell when holding down the fire button sometimes, so in fact it just isn't your gun that got nerfed.

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Minigun owner right there ^

Nerf Minigun back to 4 DMG in perfect shape.

I want it nerfed back to 4 DMG and remove the kickback.

Why do I want it nerfed? Because its literally as strong as flame which costs a 100 ec. Its already enough that the minigun has a higher spread and a bigger clip than flame. They both 5 DMG at the time being. Bar was nerfed right? Why wasnt Minigun nerfed?

Please tell me if you agree or not and tell me the reason. Thx.

I am owner of a bar and i feel i could get faster kills with a bar then with a minigun.
But i paid more for my gun:(
doesnt that include to have easier kills?
and sorry i am really bad with pking maybe its just my skill thats a bit bad

Minigun gets kills easier...

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Originally Posted by NiM0

Nerf Minigun back to 4 DMG in perfect shape.

I want it nerfed back to 4 DMG and remove the kickback.

Why do I want it nerfed? Because its literally as strong as flame which costs a 100 ec. Its already enough that the minigun has a higher spread and a bigger clip than flame. They both 5 DMG at the time being. Bar was nerfed right? Why wasnt Minigun nerfed?

Please tell me if you agree or not and tell me the reason. Thx.

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Yes 100% agree I actually have a thread discussing how unfair it is that BAR and M4 was nerfed and not mini gun.

It has a kickback??!:confused::mad: never knew this. I literally agreed on nerfing the minigun back because it will ruin flamethrower's stats for the one who had it.

it has knockback chance but this chance near 1/150

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral13

Yes 100% agree I actually have a thread discussing how unfair it is that BAR and M4 was nerfed and not mini gun.

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I disagree, as 4 dmg still makes it get faster kills than a bar.

but mini has slower run.

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Originally Posted by SashaGryg

but mini has slower run.

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minigun owner right there^

So basically people who can't afford higher tier weapons want another nerf? Also people using the ec vs grallets logic in that case buff heal staff because rage blade cost grallets.

It's almost impossible to win a spar with mini vs a person with descent skill. I don't understand how it's op.

but bases...

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Originally Posted by jaxwashere

It's almost impossible to win a spar with mini vs a person with descent skill. I don't understand how it's op.

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Lol

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Originally Posted by Ephemeral13

Lol

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If you can't beat a mini in spar you should quit sparring forever.

minigun op not on spar only... if it is. it is op on base almost and pk also

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Originally Posted by jaxwashere

It's almost impossible to win a spar with mini vs a person with descent skill. I don't understand how it's op.

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another minigun owner right there^

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Originally Posted by #14 AJ

another minigun owner right there^

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Another m4 owner right here who's gun cost 1/4 of the price the mini does but wants his gun to be equal to it.

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Originally Posted by jaxwashere

So basically people who can't afford higher tier weapons want another nerf? Also people using the ec vs grallets logic in that case buff heal staff because rage blade cost grallets.

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making a minigun was a bad, bad, bad idea, and it's just like making a flame thrower with a smaller hitting box, FASTER SHOOTING, and MORE CLIP. how long would it take for u to earn 100 ecs? even if u afked for free ec, it'll take longer than earning 200k, lol. and i don't think u even earned ur 200k for ur precious minigun, homie.

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Originally Posted by jaxwashere

Another m4 owner right here who's gun cost 1/4 of the price the mini does but wants his gun to be equal to it.

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this made me lmao!!

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Originally Posted by #14 AJ

making a minigun was a bad, bad, bad idea, and it's just like making a flame thrower with a smaller hitting box, FASTER SHOOTING, and MORE CLIP. how long would it take for u to earn 100 ecs? even if u afked for free ec, it'll take longer than earning 200k, lol. and i don't think u even earned ur 200k for ur precious minigun, homie.

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this made me lmao!!

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Because it's true

i don't wanna argue with a brick wall; it's bad enough that i need to deal with door-spamming minigunners when i wanna pk a base.

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Originally Posted by jaxwashere

Because it's true

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lol, what's true is that you want ur precious little gun that u got in 1 day to be better than the flamethrower.

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and btw, i'd rather have a glock18 instead of a minigun; at least, the glock would require skill if u wanna pk with it.

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Originally Posted by #14 AJ

i don't wanna argue with a brick wall; it's bad enough that i need to deal with door-spamming minigunners when i wanna pk a base.

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lol, what's true is that you want ur precious little gun that u got in 1 day to be better than the flamethrower.

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I don't think the mini needs a buff... What are you talking about?