Get rid of stack damage on ALL shotguns

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Originally Posted by David Pandavi

U say it will be a shipka, except, look, it's slower. Just stop whining, all the threads I see by you are about "change pbp nerf it it's too op cry"

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No pbp is same speed as shipkia, if the pbp was a shipkia with 4 shots at once it would be a million times better.

Uhm, your wrong.

eh i have a pbp and i still say they should remove the stack because its just ruining era due to the fact that if your 1vs2 pbp you die in like 2-3 seconds lolz

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Originally Posted by David Pandavi

Uhm, your wrong.

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Uhm im right, seriously have you played era when the pbp wasnt stacked damage? I liked it way more then than now.

Bump because this needs to go

Shotguns have been the weirdest weapons in era. Previously, they were excellent guns at long range but bad at close range. This was the opposite of what shotguns were intended to be. Now stack damage was introduced and made shotguns far more powerful than ever imagined. The new shotguns don't have stack damage and appear to be weak over the stack damage shotguns. Pl9 is an example of a very weak shotgun. With the same damage of a starter pistol but costs 15k. A regular shotgun or m3 is more effective than pl9. Despite Pl9's spam ability.

Shotguns dont need to follow logic. If a double barreled shotgun has 3 shots in it then shotguns can be used at long range effectivly

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Originally Posted by David Pandavi

If they do remove stacked, then they give me my $50 back. And if your complaining, let me remind you that how would YOU like it if your shipka got nerfed. We would hear your complaining. If you nerf, FULL refund. Not half. Full refund.

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Sorry to burst your bubble but the shipka was nerfed when I bought it in November of 2011 I thought it was awesome didn't really notice it was OP because the bar, pbp not stacked and shipka were balanced in power of killing each other.

I mean what ghetto is suggesting, which is putting the pbp far out of power by keeping damage low and losing stack damage, if that happens then pbp will be thrown aside.

8 damage, 9 when upgraded isnt low. Shotguns were intended to be used for their barebones spread and should be. It wouldn't be thrown out of the competition as it's currently immensely OP and is currently the top gun and shouldn't be. It would be balanced not under powered and it would promote skill not just pumping 16dmg into your opponents getting a 4 hit kill.

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Originally Posted by Ghettoicedtea

If i had the pbp gun i wouldnt be using as it would get rid of the challange, thats what happened to my bar, just rusting away in my inventory. Also i have used the pbp before, no joke, i was a motherfkin tank with it.

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Lmao yea right.
You say you have BAR right? Then counter pbp users with it,problem solved.PBP shotguns are easy to defeat with a BAR.
Also you may reconsider your approach on pking,because honestly i dont find any challenge killing you,just saying :p

If the stack damage is removed,then increase it's damage to 10 bullets each.

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Originally Posted by *DaScientist

If the stack damage is removed,then increase it's damage to 10 bullets each.

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Not 10

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Originally Posted by manbearpig

Lmao yea right.
You say you have BAR right? Then counter pbp users with it,problem solved.PBP shotguns are easy to defeat with a BAR.
Also you may reconsider your approach on pking,because honestly i dont find any challenge killing you,just saying :p

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I would love to use a bar but its pointless to use for the hit register timer

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Originally Posted by *DaScientist

If the stack damage is removed,then increase it's damage to 10 bullets each.

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8 like the way it was. With the spread the pbp has it would still be kickass

I will admit it I am a PBP spammer but I have the Shipka now but we all know what Ghettoicedtea is saying is true.I think if this happen it's will be a good thing because image if it's does 8 damage(9 damage upgraded).It would be like a bar except not automatic and higher damage.
For say rise the clip on the PBP back to 24 and that it.All you have to do is land each round on someone and there dead.It does 9 damage and shoots four bullets and has a 24 clip it will do 54 damage if you manage all rounds.(4x6=24)(9x6=54)

if stacked damage is removed 1/2 of era is going to whine about it.

Judging by the poll 1/3 of era will whine about it and 2/3 of era will be exteremely happy. Majority rules.

But era wont change it :[

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Originally Posted by Bravo

if stacked damage is removed 1/2 of era is going to whine about it.

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Fk those pices of sheit pbp garbage assholes who ruin era. Shotguns have completly ruined era. Basing is now no longer skill, its whoever has the most pbps hands down wins, pk boosting, completly cheating as it avoids the hit registration timer (sam your an idiot if you say it has a timer, it dosent), making shotguns the only basing weapons, and freakin spar boosting is used with pbps.

If u take away the stack then BAR no longer has anything that comes close to beating it.

Maybe just have shotguns do more damage up close and less when they are further away

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Originally Posted by LordBryson

Maybe just have shotguns do more damage up close and less when they are further away

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Exactly

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Originally Posted by Rozzer

If u take away the stack then BAR no longer has anything that comes close to beating it.

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Where do you derive this logic from? The bar currently does not outclass it and would if stacked damage was removed, thus returning balance to pking. It wouldn't shoot faster than the bar and would do 9dmg in perfect unlike the bar that deals 10dmg in perfect.

BAR is so op the only thing that has a chance of beating it atm is PBP because of stack

Bar isn't OP at all it's 200k pbp is 125k and outclasses every weapon and requires no skill to use. At least the bar actually requires skill and can be realistically beaten by most guns.

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Originally Posted by Alan Harper

Bar isn't OP at all it's 200k pbp is 125k and outclasses every weapon and requires no skill to use. At least the bar actually requires skill and can be realistically beaten by most guns.

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BAR is op because it requires no skill to use u just stand the spamming and pbp needs skill coz if u are far way from the person it dose no dmg try putting someone with pbp an someone with bar in spar pbp won't deal any dmg bar will win in 2 seconds

Lmfao pbp isn't a spar gun I'm talking about Pk, pbp would be much more effective in spar against a bar if you removed stacked damage.

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Originally Posted by Rozzer

BAR is op because it requires no skill to use u just stand the spamming and pbp needs skill coz if u are far way from the person it dose no dmg try putting someone with pbp an someone with bar in spar pbp won't deal any dmg bar will win in 2 seconds

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I am going to murder you for being that much of a goddamn idiot. Pbp is way OP far and close range because of spread it has thats hella wide, and multiple shots at once. The bar if you spam is way too easy to outmanuver and flank and take less damage if hit.

Your clearly one of those fking players who hoard rares, sit at start all day afk, and doesnt pk and when they do they use pbps, and they suck *** without it.

That

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Originally Posted by Ghettoicedtea

I am going to murder you for being that much of a goddamn idiot. Pbp is way OP far and close range because of spread it has thats hella wide, and multiple shots at once. The bar if you spam is way too easy to outmanuver and flank and take less damage if hit.

Your clearly one of those fking players who hoard rares, sit at start all day afk, and doesnt pk and when they do they use pbps, and they suck *** without it.

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Ty tyvm

Bump

stack damage lags old ipod users so bad that it crashes, just saying

I don't mind stack damage, its the fact that the range is soooooooo wide and far!!! how about just make it that shotguns can only shoot a small distance, like the distance that ipod can see not zoomed out.

Nooooooo, not at all, with eras screwed up hit boxs its way to easy to get a 16 damage hit at long range. Its rare to be hit with only one shot

that's y you decrease the range! real shotguns cant even shoot like 20 yards but era's shotguns can at like 100 yards

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the hit registration timer is at fault here too. Since it basically slows the bar down, when a bar and PBP face off, the PBP now wins because it's just as fast as the bar.

Remove Stacked Damage. It's that simple. Make the game about being good. Not about spraying your little heart out.
Remove staked damage, make each bullet do 8, and BOOM, the game is worth playing.

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Originally Posted by DontBanPandachu

that's y you decrease the range! real shotguns cant even shoot like 20 yards but era's shotguns can at like 100 yards

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Then it would be pointless as people would just run away and blast you

i agree i believe that the no more stack damage should happen no skill and they brag saying they have skill if they kill you add more freeze because u made the pbp freeze lower and its harded to kill them!!!!