Ingame profile update - offline notifications

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Originally Posted by failure

Whats the main reason you guys are upset about this? Is it because you have to scroll to see stats? Would it be better if kills and spars and stuff were upfront and you had to scroll for language, marital status and all that? Or is it mostly because you were used to how it was before? Do you not like the design? How would you improve it so that everything stays neat and uncluttered, while still maximizing ease of use and all that? What do you not like about the adding and pming icons? How they look, placement, or do they just take some getting used to? Do most people dislike it for different reasons, or is there one huge thing that most players hate about it?

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My dude I love how you?re asking for constructive criticism. This is what I want more of from the staff team

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Originally Posted by failure

Whats the main reason you guys are upset about this? Is it because you have to scroll to see stats? Would it be better if kills and spars and stuff were upfront and you had to scroll for language, marital status and all that? Or is it mostly because you were used to how it was before? Do you not like the design? How would you improve it so that everything stays neat and uncluttered, while still maximizing ease of use and all that? What do you not like about the adding and pming icons? How they look, placement, or do they just take some getting used to? Do most people dislike it for different reasons, or is there one huge thing that most players hate about it?

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https://i.imgur.com/kSNKthz.jpg

For me mainly because of how it looks, I feel like it?s now smaller than before and the idea of scrolling to SEE the kills is just bad. The scrolling icon is ugly aswell. I swear for the past few years all I do is view other player?s profile (and chat)

Also the pm icon is too close to the add/remove button

I feel like if they organized it more and let the 2nd page as Duke mentioned to showcase the items u have would be nicer.

the new icon and slider are ugly and do not fit the profile at all, the slider is counter intuitive and could be replaced by a simple button, Kills and Spar wins should remain on the first page with everything that is currently there, and the second page should be used for MPX stats and other personal information that can be added at the players request such as favourite item etc.

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Originally Posted by imaginary

https://i.imgur.com/kSNKthz.jpg

For me mainly because of how it looks, I feel like it?s now smaller than before and the idea of scrolling to SEE the kills is just bad. The scrolling icon is ugly aswell. I swear for the past few years all I do is view other player?s profile (and chat)

Also the pm icon is too close to the add/remove button

I feel like if they organized it more and let the 2nd page as Duke mentioned to showcase the items u have would be nicer.

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I’d love to add that, it’d be better if I could choose what language(s) I speak without changing the one in the option because the “Arabic” used ingame is extremely bad and lowkey offends me for using numbers and English letters claiming it to be Arabic.
It seems like we have good developers now, why not enable the Arabic alphabet ingame ?

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Originally Posted by Duke

On the second profile page when you scroll I feel you should be able to showcase a few of your favorite items/hats (their icons from your inventory). There is room under your stats to easily include this or something else that can be thought of to further customize your profile. For example a gst trophy, chem, lightsaber, spar mask, pk hat, etc. I feel it would be a neat little touch. Thoughts?

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I kind of like this idea, Ill bring it up with someone.

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Originally Posted by OmgItsFallen

?We want new updates!?
*complains about new updates*

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Yeah, we do want updates...






BUT NOT STU**D/USELESS UPDATES!

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As I said before, dont waste times adding things that nobody wants or nobone have thought of that before because it's absolutely useless

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Originally Posted by Wast

Yeah, we do want updates...






BUT NOT STU**D/USELESS UPDATES!

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As I said before, dont waste times adding things that nobody wants or nobone have thought of that before because it's absolutely useless

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wow wast ur very nice

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Originally Posted by imaginary

Yes that?d be great. I still don?t like the idea of scrolling to view someone?s kills

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They need to stop copying classic I purposely play era because of classics crooked ****y updates and ****y staff.

They literally can fit the stats right where the slider is lmfao. THEY NEED TO LEARN TO PUT THEIR STUFF THEY ADD ON THE 2ND PAGE NOT VICE VERSA

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Originally Posted by imaginary

https://i.imgur.com/kSNKthz.jpg

For me mainly because of how it looks, I feel like it?s now smaller than before and the idea of scrolling to SEE the kills is just bad. The scrolling icon is ugly aswell. I swear for the past few years all I do is view other player?s profile (and chat)

Also the pm icon is too close to the add/remove button

I feel like if they organized it more and let the 2nd page as Duke mentioned to showcase the items u have would be nicer.

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How does like rearranging it so hours, gralats, hp, kills, spars on the front page, then marital stuff, language, and align on the second, along with maybe the item showcase thing mentioned above? I don’t think rearranging it would be difficult, but I would have to ask.

As for the adding and pm button being close together, I think they’re right where the item buttons are on your own profile so that it stays kinda consistent no matter whose profile you’re viewing. Though looking at that picture, it does leave a bit of awkward space.

Do y’all think these changes would be better? If so, I can try and get a dev to read through these ideas and maybe change it so it’s more appealing. (No idea about the item showcase, it’d be cool but it might open up new problems development-wise)

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Originally Posted by Casey

the new icon and slider are ugly and do not fit the profile at all, the slider is counter intuitive and could be replaced by a simple button, Kills and Spar wins should remain on the first page with everything that is currently there, and the second page should be used for MPX stats and other personal information that can be added at the players request such as favourite item etc.

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The new icons for the adding and pming? I guess if a graphics person can make new buttons and all that, it should be hard to swap out. How do you feel about the rearrange I suggested above? Tbh it might make the front page crowded and the second page empty, but I feel like it would display the player statistics better than the other stuff

Regardless, I don’t think a rearrange is out of the question, and if we can get enough support and the devs see logic in rearranging it, then a rearrange can probably be done relatively quickly. The graphics and extra feature things may take awhile to make or may need more justification to spend time and resources on, but we'll see I guess.

i think whatever was on the front page before should stay on the front page besides MPX stats. the language bar isnt important and could even be moved next to the flag icon to free up the profile.

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Originally Posted by Casey

i think whatever was on the front page before should stay on the front page besides MPX stats. the language bar isnt important and could even be moved next to the flag icon to free up the profile.

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If kills and spars move back to the front page and the language thing was moved elsewhere, what else besides the mpx stats do you think should go on the second page?

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Originally Posted by failure

If kills and spars move back to the front page and the language thing was moved elsewhere, what else besides the mpx stats do you think should go on the second page?

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Possibly an option to add interests? That may seem far-fetched but it could be a filler.

So here are my thoughts about the new update...

I hate how the PM & add buttons are placed on the right side of the screen, i was so use to it before but now its in a different place which is very frustrating and if they were not to change it would take time to get use to, that's why I prefer the old profile interface.

I wish they just didnt add it in the first place it looks ugly and is simply unnecessary
Why not focus on something more productive things rather then changing a profile, like something people would enjoy.

Yes, I understand, the old profile was very simple and basic but that's the reason why it was so good and everyone loved it.
All the information was on the screen at once right when I needed it which was very convenient.

Idk this is just my opinion about the whole new update.
No hate, just feedback

Also by adding this profile update we can no longer see if a player is playing classic or era or zone. Come On some people play era and classic, I should be allowed to see which game they are on :/

Logged in after like 6 months of inactivity just to say this:

I liked the old profile system mainly because it was simple and not cluttered with a bunch of other stuff.

The add and pm buttons are way too intrusive and ugly, along with the fact that they are on the right, not on the left, is something that will always be an eyesore despite the fact that we probably need to get used to it.

Since when was "language" ever something we needed to put on our profile?

Haha, you don't know my language if it's private...

If you wanted to get less criticism for this, you might as well put an option to revert back to the old system in the player settings (similar to the old emote system option which I still use) so that people who never wanted this in the first place can be happy.

Also, get rid of align, one of the most useless "stat" that staff hasn't bothered to work with since the very beginning.

Giving us the ability to put the stats that we're interested in on the very first page would sort of make this bearable, along with the options to privatize specific stats (e.g. money, relationship, MPX duo) so that players can show whatever they want to show.

Some staff earlier in this thread commented that we were "begging" for new updates and were being ungrateful- to which I say that while we do want updates, a majority of the people on here never wanted an UI overhaul, they were looking for new content, new guns etc. Also, there was literally no warning or indication that this was going to happen or that a majority of players wanted this, so the playerbase has somewhat of a right to be upset about the new changes especially when the presiding attitude from staff is pretty much "You wanted updates and now you're b****ing about how it's terrible."

There's absolutely no communication going on between staff and player base, which is why staff will always get flak for whatever they do b/c they don't talk with the players and ask what they'd like to see. A bit of a heads- up in the form of a "patch notes" before the actual update is implemented would actually be nice so that one day we're not hit with a massive overhaul like this and get pissed off.

@Failure, you mentioned that the players were being unreasonably upset and that you wanted to know exactly why. That's a good step in the right direction. I just hope the rest of the staff team actually bother to follow your lead and decide to actually ask players what they want before a change is made instead of after they make a mess.

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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit

Logged in after like 6 months of inactivity just to say this:

I liked the old profile system mainly because it was simple and not cluttered with a bunch of other stuff.

The add and pm buttons are way too intrusive and ugly, along with the fact that they are on the right, not on the left, is something that will always be an eyesore despite the fact that we probably need to get used to it.

Since when was "language" ever something we needed to put on our profile?

Haha, you don't know my language if it's private...

If you wanted to get less criticism for this, you might as well put an option to revert back to the old system in the player settings (similar to the old emote system option which I still use) so that people who never wanted this in the first place can be happy.

Also, get rid of align, one of the most useless "stat" that staff hasn't bothered to work with since the very beginning.

Giving us the ability to put the stats that we're interested in on the very first page would sort of make this bearable, along with the options to privatize specific stats (e.g. money, relationship, MPX duo) so that players can show whatever they want to show.

Some staff earlier in this thread commented that we were "begging" for new updates and were being ungrateful- to which I say that while we do want updates, a majority of the people on here never wanted an UI overhaul, they were looking for new content, new guns etc. Also, there was literally no warning or indication that this was going to happen or that a majority of players wanted this, so the playerbase has somewhat of a right to be upset about the new changes especially when the presiding attitude from staff is pretty much "You wanted updates and now you're b****ing about how it's terrible."

There's absolutely no communication going on between staff and player base, which is why staff will always get flak for whatever they do b/c they don't talk with the players and ask what they'd like to see. A bit of a heads- up in the form of a "patch notes" before the actual update is implemented would actually be nice so that one day we're not hit with a massive overhaul like this and get pissed off.

@Failure, you mentioned that the players were being unreasonably upset and that you wanted to know exactly why. That's a good step in the right direction. I just hope the rest of the staff team actually bother to follow your lead and decide to actually ask players what they want before a change is made instead of after they make a mess.

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I gotta disagree that the old profiles were uncluttered, I absolutely hated the fact that you would have to wait for MPX duo scores to show up. The new adding and pm buttons might take some getting used to, I think it was placed like that to keep some consistency between your profile and other players’ profiles.

I don’t think it’s going to be possible to have an option to revert to and from the old profile system, as far as I know it’s much more complicated than simply changing out graphics and ganis or whatever like what was done with the emojis.

Not sure how letting players customize what is shown on their own profile would work, but it could be cool. Downside being it could confuse and trick newer players.

I do agree that we need to interact with the player base more and gauge opinions for things like this, but for now I guess we can only give constructive criticism and see what happens.

Also, I didn’t mean I thought players were unreasonably upset - I actually think it’s pretty justified. Players get used to one thing, then it completely changes and that can be disturbing. However the complete hate is a little harsh, someone did work hard to renovate the profiles. Overall, I personally feel like it does make the profile cleaner and easier to read, though I am a pretty big fan of proper use of empty space.

After playing around with it a little yesterday, I can see why players are more upset than the majority of staff seem to be. I think the new profile system appeals more to staff members since our kills and stats and stuff don’t matter on staff accounts. So keeping it hidden and out of the way makes it look neater and less cluttered. However, those stats are more important to players than staff, and it’s just a pain to have to scroll to check someone’s stats and see kind of how they spend their time in the game.

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Originally Posted by failure

I gotta disagree that the old profiles were uncluttered, I absolutely hated the fact that you would have to wait for MPX duo scores to show up. The new adding and pm buttons might take some getting used to, I think it was placed like that to keep some consistency between your profile and other players’ profiles.

I don’t think it’s going to be possible to have an option to revert to and from the old profile system, as far as I know it’s much more complicated than simply changing out graphics and ganis or whatever like what was done with the emojis.

Not sure how letting players customize what is shown on their own profile would work, but it could be cool. Downside being it could confuse and trick newer players.

I do agree that we need to interact with the player base more and gauge opinions for things like this, but for now I guess we can only give constructive criticism and see what happens.

Also, I didn’t mean I thought players were unreasonably upset - I actually think it’s pretty justified. Players get used to one thing, then it completely changes and that can be disturbing. However the complete hate is a little harsh, someone did work hard to renovate the profiles. Overall, I personally feel like it does make the profile cleaner and easier to read, though I am a pretty big fan of proper use of empty space.

After playing around with it a little yesterday, I can see why players are more upset than the majority of staff seem to be. I think the new profile system appeals more to staff members since our kills and stats and stuff don’t matter on staff accounts. So keeping it hidden and out of the way makes it look neater and less cluttered. However, those stats are more important to players than staff, and it’s just a pain to have to scroll to check someone’s stats and see kind of how they spend their time in the game.

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I feel like the whole debate about the application of using profile space efficiently could have been easily solved by removing the align status and the hitpoint indicator. With those two lines out of the way, it would have been easy to replace them with the MPX duo stats. In addition, there would have been one extra space to put Plasma related stats there as well.

Regardless of the fact that FB era very inconsistently shows the next page of the profiles after using the sliders, the only thing I can take away from this is that this change was just a very rude awakening to an otherwise ok thing that we had going on.

Based on the previous comments about how Classic's scripts were taken to pretty much make this new change, I'll dispute your claim that someone worked tirelessly to implement this update but in the end, it is what it is.

Well a new PM update. Good thing about it it shows how many pms you have waiting (just noticed the noob got a sad face)
https://i.imgur.com/e1VhbZp.jpg
Works like a thread ?vv (pretty much like olwest but they have an option to disable it)
https://i.imgur.com/e1Pci4G.jpg
But if you wanted to re-read ur pm from ur pms history it won?t be shown as a thread
https://i.imgur.com/alRCRvO.jpg

Annndd the pm box is now bigger than before

Ahmad is stealing my job of announcing new updates...

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Originally Posted by AliGamer911

Ahmad is stealing my job of announcing new updates...

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You be ok Jihad <3

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Originally Posted by imaginary

You be ok Jihad <3

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Pls spare change I have no have job no more

At least u can press ur stats and move/drag it to the other ones faster u dont have to use the bottom slider

helo developers who r reading this! please update the trigger buttons cause they look old and outdated

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Originally Posted by Minho

helo developers who r reading this! please update the trigger buttons cause they look old and outdated

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They're fine too me.

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Originally Posted by kaz210

At least u can press ur stats and move/drag it to the other ones faster u dont have to use the bottom slider

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Wdym?

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Originally Posted by N!chola$

They're fine too me.

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Same here

I think whoever working on these update needs to fix the issue with the iPhone screen where all the buttons on the right side and half of the controller disappear

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Originally Posted by imaginary

I think whoever working on these update needs to fix the issue with the iPhone screen where all the buttons on the right side and half of the controller disappear

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pic pls

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Originally Posted by AliGamer911

pic pls

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https://i.imgur.com/TUY2nuF.jpg

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Originally Posted by imaginary

https://i.imgur.com/TUY2nuF.jpg

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Yo wth Marg how do u even function

Bad kids are already abusing the system D: btw this guy is Omz in my gang (meme) and is the owner of (a gang)

https://i.imgur.com/04ybhkY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Jono7DU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/m2ZFJw7.jpg

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Originally Posted by imaginary

Bad kids are already abusing the system D: btw this guy is Omz in my gang (meme) and is the owner of (a gang)

https://i.imgur.com/04ybhkY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Jono7DU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/m2ZFJw7.jpg

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I don't want to be mean or anything, but this feels like something you'd do to me

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Originally Posted by AliGamer911

I don't want to be mean or anything, but this feels like something you'd do to me

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No lol I obviously don’t msg u and wouldn’t like to

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Originally Posted by imaginary

Bad kids are already abusing the system D: btw this guy is Omz in my gang (meme) and is the owner of (a gang)

https://i.imgur.com/04ybhkY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Jono7DU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/m2ZFJw7.jpg

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Pls submit a ticket to support.toonslab.com gralat and all other account issues aren't to be discussed on the forums sir.

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Originally Posted by imaginary

Bad kids are already abusing the system D: btw this guy is Omz in my gang (meme) and is the owner of (a gang)

https://i.imgur.com/04ybhkY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Jono7DU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/m2ZFJw7.jpg

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what does FUCCYOYOI mean?

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Originally Posted by Minho

what does FUCCYOYOI mean?

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It says fucc yoi
The last letter was a typo

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Originally Posted by imaginary

https://i.imgur.com/TUY2nuF.jpg

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Happens to me too

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Originally Posted by kaz210

Pls submit a ticket to support.toonslab.com gralat and all other account issues aren't to be discussed on the forums sir.

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ikr kazz, pple these days

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Originally Posted by imaginary

Bad kids are already abusing the system D: btw this guy is Omz in my gang (meme) and is the owner of (a gang)

https://i.imgur.com/04ybhkY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Jono7DU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/m2ZFJw7.jpg

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Hm, I don?t really think there?s a fix for that. Tbh, people could?ve done that with the old system, it just wouldn?t look as nice and people might be confused.

But overall, I think most of the criticism for the new PMs comes from people not wanting to get used to it? Correct me if I?m wrong. Personally, I really like it, I just wish the new PMs were on top so I could read the last message sent as I type on an iPad or phone or whatever. Not necessarily flip the whole thing, but maybe auto scroll it so that you don?t see any history at first unless you choose to scroll up to view past messages.

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Originally Posted by failure

Hm, I don?t really think there?s a fix for that. Tbh, people could?ve done that with the old system, it just wouldn?t look as nice and people might be confused.

But overall, I think most of the criticism for the new PMs comes from people not wanting to get used to it? Correct me if I?m wrong. Personally, I really like it, I just wish the new PMs were on top so I could read the last message sent as I type on an iPad or phone or whatever. Not necessarily flip the whole thing, but maybe auto scroll it so that you don?t see any history at first unless you choose to scroll up to view past messages.

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That post was a joke

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Originally Posted by failure

Hm, I don?t really think there?s a fix for that. Tbh, people could?ve done that with the old system, it just wouldn?t look as nice and people might be confused.

But overall, I think most of the criticism for the new PMs comes from people not wanting to get used to it? Correct me if I?m wrong. Personally, I really like it, I just wish the new PMs were on top so I could read the last message sent as I type on an iPad or phone or whatever. Not necessarily flip the whole thing, but maybe auto scroll it so that you don?t see any history at first unless you choose to scroll up to view past messages.

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They aren't really criticizing it lol