Exactly, why give people hats who are only there for a few weeks. The originals deserve it. The people in the gang hidout and people who built obsidian. Its a 4k hour hat. Not a bribing tool. A gang is a gang. Not a dictatorship
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i say he deserves his hat back, so what if he left, he still put alot of time in for obsidian, its really unfair they can take the hat back.
you should join a gang not even for a hat in the first place. If you leave then I don't see why you need the gangs hat.
well, you made obs for the rewards not for fun obviously like most other gangs so stop being a hypocrite-_-
You kidding me? There were no gang rewards when I created Obsidian, gangs just based for fun. Snk later decided to add them, once again do not assume.
Thats staff issues dont count.
Classic has a 10k fort time reward yet era doesn't. Don't try to compare era and classic.
Im talking abut players, not staff or gameplay, but if you really didnt think that people would join just for then hat then your crazy.
I know people do, that is why I am not just handing them out right away.
Ifreeze had the same problem but we didnt care. Scooby left for candy and m16 gone rouge, i sticked around for another 1.8k hours then quit. Just stop whining that people joined just for hats.
Or people that had hats "betrayed" you
Im not the one who made the thread.
The thing is, is that iceman was probably mad, because he just gave a gang hat and then the member just took off.
No shit he was mad, who wouldnt be mad if you gave a hat to a person and they left, but they contributed to the gang a lot so yea they deserve it. but he moved on fast. So it all good
I just think a "4000 hours hat" should be finalized at 4000 hours. Not regiven over and over. People who got the original 4000 hours and received hat should keep hat. Simple as that...
Don't drag me and Vargas into your issues, I couldn't care less about a pixelated hat.. I'm just getting my pks up and I told Duke I don't really care about hats. Oh yea and btw you're so fake didn't you leave Vargas his gang because Muse offered you food and items? Then when Vargas confronted you, you said "guess I'm easy to bribe" LOL
I can see why you're mad but this is also going to reflect the gang point system... You will need to be in the gang to wear their hat.
In this situation I feel DIY should keep his hat, and the random black guild hat obsidian has now should be made for the point system.
Duke your wrong....I also gave out ganghats and 3 of those people left the gang but I would nvr dream of taking their hats away because they deserved it and helped getting us those hrs. Yes 2 ppl left shortly after receiving the hat but the time they stayed they were loyal.
New system or not people change, relationships don't last forever especially in a gang but once the person leaves you take away their trophy that they can show for their hardwork not cool. Its like the Bulls taking away all of the championship records away from Michael Jordan cuz he went to the Wizards lmao. Just not ethical.
need to be in gang to wear hat? that sounds kinda dumb, what if your wearing hat and you go off tag, does hat also come off?
I'm with D I Y on this one. I don't think it's fair to just take away a hat that has been earned. If anyone else wants a hat they should help with the next 2000 hours and get their own hat.
unfair and not right. D I Y earned his hat.
Ugh just stop complaining. Duke took hat away DEAL WITH IT. And you own a gang right? And you eventually get 2k and you can give hat to whoever you want.
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And the obs members come in 2 by 2's hoorah hoorah.
Everyone has their own opinion, but mine won't change. If you don't agree with mine then that's good for you.
I agree with duke honestly. I have my own gang and more than 5 people deserve the hat. If I choose a wrong person who will just leave after getting it, I would be upset if I didnt have an option to give his/her hat to someone else. For the more the people who deserved the hat and didn't get it would probably become my enemies. So i agree with duke, everything should stay like it is now.