Wouldn't be balanced at all - high fire rate weapons would be the new meta.Quote:
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I plan on adding additional skins for sure.Quote:
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Wouldn't be balanced at all - high fire rate weapons would be the new meta.Quote:
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I plan on adding additional skins for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sh0otingstar
1-What about to add a different hat or the player make hat for himself and the requirements should be hard like 100k Spar W or 1M kills,
2-add something special for old players so it’s can be fair, there players hit 50k W spar since 2015 or 500k Kills and therr players got 50k at 2020 it’s not fair to give both of them same rewards
3-Make a new system for spar stats so you can choose which stats u want get back after you reset your spar stats more then time that’s for sparrers who got reset by other players and who got reset by illegal reason like boosting etc they can’t use the new system and i’m sure that’s will help a lot to bring back old sparrers cuz most of them got reset by players and quit game,
4-Add 3rd floor for the oldest sparrers and new rewards 100k Spar-1M kills, 75k spar+500k kills
5-new unique melee and requirements 100k Spar+750k kills this melee should be so strong and need skills to be professional with it
6-More skins for P2K-Mp5a5 etc especially M4A3
7-make new system for spar-pk guns add on ,i mean like M4 add on.like a laser or bigger clip
8-solo tournaments 1v1 and hoster choose which gun will enable like only M4 or Sten and there will be rewards like a hat or trophy
9-LMS Room host every 5-6 hours and only 20-30 player can join and winner get money or spar coins so he can buy add on for spar-pk guns
In the end i want say good luck to junz and all the developers.
i wonder if people with special M4`s like Pink M4 and gold M4 will also have access to the room?Quote:
Originally Posted by vSh0otingstar
An melee reward - you need to get 150k kills and 17,500 spar wins to get
And also an complex duo spar and gang spar rewards or shop?
i Think a ping based Match system would be better for Complex because having a player from the US with ping ranging at 20-30 going agasnt a player from asia with ping at 300+ dont seem fair.
I’m already expecting limited skins or guns
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If u gonna add rewards for reaching high streaks or some point system, set a ping limit for all rooms like over 1k ping (or whatever ping makes u teleport) u get kicked cus that aint average ping, so then they dont abuse lag on purpose n ruin our work
I like the currently rewards, but what about putting one gun + mask + melee in every reward milestone? That would be great! Every 5k Wins one Reward and the same for PK but every 50k Kills. The MP5A5 requires too many things to buy it, it would be great if its only required 35k Wins because it has no use to pk with it.
Couldnt agree more than ever, as an asian its a pain in the *** that you have to predict where the opponent move to and gotta have a cap pass through the air before the opponent gets there to get damaged and in the meantime the opponent could damage you easily as they dont need to predict too far. This lead to far server sided players have a huge disadvantage as they couldnt really do much to the opponent that able to fire 1st and quickly registered by the server in the real time and the far server sided players still cant see it in real time because of that huge ping. Im sorry if this confuses you, its really hard to describe it. Although you might experience it by having a vpn on asia countries and spar with close server sided players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyro From Godelic
will everything be updated all at one time or seperate
A great idea is to make a Hall Of Fame spar room for all the great sparers who have mastered there craft and made a positive impact for graals community. All players should have a legit shot to get in the room. This room can not be solely based on in game stats and yes that is a important factor. The reason for this is so I cant buy a bar play for thousands of hours boost my stats then get into the hall of fame. The players that should be in this room are not only masters of there craft but also players that helped shape the community in a positive way or left a positive impact on graal. A perfect spot for this room is the bottom right of complex by the entrance if these are truly great players that helped shape the game and left a strong impact i would want them to be seen not hidden on some top floor that no one goes on. this is where your statues should be of your best players. I mean whats in that spot anyway ? a hangout room that no one goes in and a cola machine that people spend more time blowing up than buying cola. The bottom right entrance to complex is completly under used and should be a great spot for a real Hall Of Fame room that would give players something to try to achieve.
Add some progression skins for guns that aren’t rewards!
PKers have the ability to grab themselves a gold BAR & Minigun once they reach 75000 kills which is something to look forward to while progressing towards the reward guns, (P2K & PSG-1), there is also a diamond skin for these guns that players can obtain later on.
Sparrers can only unlock gold and diamond skins for the Vector & M4A3, both of which are rewards. I believe there should be a gold skin that is available to obtain whilst progressing towards the Vector and also a diamond skin, that is available later on in the sparring journey, for two guns widely regarded to as “sparring guns”.
The obvious choices for the guns that should have these progression skins would be the M4 and Ghost M4, the only issue I see is that we already have the Gold M4 as an auction gun.
Let me know what you think!
This will be considered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaez
Hey, finally, a post I can actually chime in on! I think the Complex is so underrated even if it's a focal point of the competitive part of Era. It's gone so long without a revamp, without an upgrade -- it's long overdue. Here's my thoughts. Junz, you know my qualifications: they're nonexistent, I've just been playing forever. I also worked on the PC Era complex update. We got some cool tiles if you want 'em. (I'm not staff there, but they can pry my tiles from my cold, dead hands. They're sick.)
First things first: tileset.
I feel like the Spar Complex is by far one of the most dated-looking buildings in the game, which doesn't make sense, as it's one of the more popular and has been for years. I know there are some supremely gifted designers and LATs on the roster who could update it. Even just making new wood tiles/wall tiles over the existing ones would be a huge quality of life update. Not only that, but just adding a staircase instead of that clunky *** elevator would do wonders for the feeling.
Second: rooms.
There's five right now, 2 of which I don't think I've ever legitimately seen anyone use (1 and Ping). I'd suggest making Big Spar (1) a little smaller, as most matches just end in people across the arena. I also think that introducing the "Floor" command from PC to switch the floor's tiles to all-black would be such a good addition. Add a focus NPC in every room, running to Dusk at the entrance is tiresome. Either that or add the /f command from the Multiplex. Also, that whole underbelly with the Practice Spar is wildly useless. I think the only reason they're still active is because of the Butterfly Knife NPC.
Third: a second measure of skill.
Right now, you can get a few guns through simply grinding out wins -- but I think it'd be really dope if you could get rewards for also having a good ratio. PC Era did the spar score thing well.
(The formula is Win = +3, Loss = -2)
For example: Requill Irion has a 17,021 spar score. He has 13,413 wins and 11,609 losses. Right next door to him is Rush Divine, with a 17,695 spar score, but 9,019 wins and 4,681 losses. Rush didn't have to grind the extra 4,000 wins to get a score as good as him because he loses far less. It rewards players who improve and don't just trade wins and losses. It encourages people to legitimately improve. I'd also make the case that it also encourages people to boost, but there's more on that later.
Now fourth: Rewards piggybacking off of that.
There's a Vector, an M4A3 and an MP5 right now. That's tight, but I feel like there should be a little more going on there. Add an HK417 at 7,500 wins that has an M4-like feel with unique sparrer skins per spar score. If you got to 7,500 wins and you're in the negative, you get the regular gunmetal skin. If you're at 7,500 wins and you're at like 3,000 losses, make it a shiny gold. Regardless, I feel the entire path to M4A3 Diamond should be lined with more weapons for players to purchase. Sparring is in a pretty good place right now balance-wise (ignoring egregious offenders like the BAR, which can't be fixed) and throwing new things into the meta to shake up the scene would be welcomed by all.
Fifth: recognition!
Add a statue for the person doing the best that week! Most wins, most score and most spars played. Give people reason to grind above and beyond. Right now, the recognition for being the best on any given week is hidden behind like 3 menus and a really, really buggy leaderboard. (More on that: why does it only pull your stats if you've sparred recently? Like 8 of the 10 top sparrers of all-time have completely quit and they're not on the history books, man. That's wack.) Also, the statues in the second floor showing "#1 through #5 PKers" are probably still wildly inaccurate? You should make them auto-update off a leaderboard. Those are such a cool idea done really poorly.
Sixth: Gang Spar!
Boy, if you pull this one off, it'll be a miracle. This is basically a glorified "let's see who can shoot more bullets" room and I don't see how you could fix that. The only way to even make it slightly competitive would be to require both teams to have the same amount of players. Also, maybe change the room so not everyone is stuffed into a 4-tile-tall corridor talking over each other. Make a big ol' reception area. Iunno. This one's always been a gimmick, I wouldn't even bother changing it.
And lastly, of course, the "M4 Only" room.
I think this one's a great idea in theory, but it forces people to pay $20 to play in it. ($10 = $27,500 ingame = $55,000 M4)
I'm not sure how developmentally feasible it is, but I've always thought of a "Spar VIP" subscription that allows weapons to be maxed and speed to be maxed for $5,000, not $7,500 a month. No item like a Tzek or a Bunny Mount, but it would allow you to have a temporary spar-only copy of the Weapon of the Month. You use it in that room. Everyone gets the same gun, it changes dynamically to allow for players to have a more level playing field, etc.
Alternatively, maybe introduce challenges for sparring sort-of like that Metal Storm PK challenge from a couple weeks ago. Get 500 spar wins using the M4 and get a free skin over a week. Just things to incentivize people to play differently, because right now, nothing other than the $80 paywall stops you from going into Spar 3 with a BAR and just running it. There's been such a powercreep in terms of spar-viable weapons that just giving people a level playing field--whether that be with a Tachi Scorpion or an M4-- would be such a breath of fresh air.
oh and minor edit yeah give people skins for non-reward weapons: the M4 is an obvious one, ghost M4's another good one a lot of people use, you know better than me etc
1. Currently I don't want to add additional maintenance work for staff (e.g. in this case, reviewing custom graphics for edits), not a bad idea thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by M7 Capone
2. As I mentioned before, additional rewards are likely to be added; in most cases players with already high stats would have an advantage
3. Spar stat loss is most likely as consequence of account sharing; account sharing is at the player's own risk so it's unlikely we'll put a system in place like this
4. New spar rewards are likely to be added (including higher requirement rewards)
5. New melees will be considered. I've got a couple cool ideas for unique mafia-themed melees with useful abilities.
6. For sure - new skins are on the list
7. Not considering this currently, as it's not directly related to spar complex, but maybe in future
8. Something like that would be cool for sure, however is not currently on the to-do list
9. Auto-hosted events like that would be great, I'll consider something like this.
Thanks for the suggestions
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Tileset: New tileset is already complete, it is 1920's mafia themed and it looks fantastic. I have yet to start on reworking the levels but I'll post some updates on that in future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sequel
Rooms: I've used room 1 quite a bit - personally I really like the larger rooms as they emphasise dodging over rushing. Unsure if that's just me, but it's my favourite room personally.
A measure of skill: This is already one of the things I had planned, however I didn't realise it was at thing on PC already. I'm glad you agree that this is a good idea.
Rewards: For sure - rewards tied to skill points would be awesome, and again is something I am highly considering.
Recognition: Again, good idea, this is something I can look into implementing and I like the concept as it is based on objective values rather than opinion.
Gang Spar: I'll try my best!
M4 only room: I honestly wouldn't mind just adding a temporary m4 to both sides, without any gralat payment. My main focus is on player retention / player-base growth.
Very good suggestions overall, thanks for your input!
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Limited skins are possible for sure, limited guns are unlikely but not completely off the table.Quote:
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I'll look into reworking the ping system for this update also.
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Cool idea! Skins are quite likely; a skin progression system for 'common' guns would be neat for sure.Quote:
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Multiplex used to have Gang TTS, if theres anyway to have that fixed and put it into complex together with modes like Capture the flag and make it have its own sort of event system for sparring gangs. These could be hosted by staff like events or be like a weekly/monthly thing.
Add showdays rooms inside these rooms Skins for pk-spar guns 100 showdays -300showdays-500-600 to 3k or more,it’s will help a lot to make players active everyday.
Since the M4 is a pretty popular spar gun I figured it’ll only be nice to give it a RUBY red stone OG M4 skin look, just because we already have a Gold m4 in the game. I feel we all would enjoy the RUBY skin.
There should be rooms for people where people get VIP benefits without having VIP (speed boost, perfect gun shape). This will help newbies get more interested in spar without having to actually having to buy VIP.
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I have an idea for the ‘reset my spar scores’ system. I don’t know if you’d ever update it. Instead of saying ‘reset my spar scores’, the spar score reset would send you an email that you would have to manually push to reset your spar score. Similar to revoke, or accessing request links.
Howdy I always thought it would be cool to fight indoors on like a set, having the advantage of cover to make it a bit more interesting. This could be like a kitchen and dining room or maybe a parking lot where there are random cars. Since you bring the topic of the gangster theme, you could work in the elements of the bootleggers where they would meet in random spots and drop their items off to be sold. A lot can be done, movie sets random small little details that make it look alive but is actually a spar. Real world examples of this would be Paint Ball they often times use cover to their advantage. I hope this comment stands out from the rest, and you take my suggestion into consideration. Cheers.
I know tht you said that maybe you'll check it for the amount of peoples in rooms but you really should make rooms with amounts of wins, especially for the ones that has low wins beacause its hard to grow up in spar vs players that has 20k or 30k spar wins..
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You should also put in reward room, some reward for the streaks cuz theres actually nothing that we win for doing streak, just a screen animation and if you grind them you can be on the podium at the start hospital, you should add rewards for streaks too
Lol just imagine a whole squad of dual users, dont get me wrong tho thats a good idea
please add at least one more streak room in complex
Add a melees only room. Would be fun!
Hello it’s Wangz one of the top 10 sparrer on this game since 2012.
You will need to add duo spar , m4 room , no plasma guns, new gun rewards of course , new color skins. 12.5 and 20k mask color changeable.
And my statue. Goodbye have a nice day
Hi, VPN is getting pretty famous nowadays in spar complex I wonder if there’s a solution for that, a good example is that some players turn on VPN then head to streak room and never get damaged/hit or not dying/losing in other words which gets really annoying I hope you fix this issue with VPN users, thanks.
Try adding a room that's like a spar with 5 rounds but every round is a new gun. would spice up our skills. Also, something to deal with a delay that's how people ruining the spar community.
We also need new m4a3 skins since vector has almost 13 whilst m4a3 only 2
I came back for this. Awesome to see the initiative to get players' views!
I would like to propose a two-pronged suggestion to help make sparring better.
1. Spar License/Permit
- The license will be classified into different classes, each class representing a range of wins - so class D for example would be for 1000-3000 spar wins, class C is for 3000-5000 wins, class B is for 5000-10000 wins, so on and so forth (just an example). Each license will of course come with a set price, say 2000 gralats for a class D license.
The reason why a price should be attached to a license is so that the license can be revoked if a player is caught boosting/breaking rules that affect sparring. This will reduce any unfair sparring.
Complex and Multiplex Mixed rewards since they’re mainly the same community <3
M4 only room for sure, but what I was thinking is possibly a room with the same concept as an m4 only room but it gets updated bi weekly/monthly with a different gun that way there’s a little more variety in fair spar play. Per say first month ghost m4, next month a-91, maybe have a random timer go off that throws in an occasional auction gun or something cool to attract more players. Gives players a chance to try out a gun they don’t own and serves as a 2nd 100% fair spar room since both sparrers will be using the same gun :D (I recommend making this room VIP only or have some kinds membership for it monthly on its own since alt accounts would more than likely abuse it for the temporary free guns to spar)
Also something else I would LOVEEEE to see is MELEE spar stats added, melee spar rewards, ect. But this is a little off topic and idk if it would be related to complex I guess since it revolves around GUNS. I miss the melee spar we use to have in underground spar:v
I’ve thought about this for a few years and I think when you make a duo room you should have 2 one of which counts as duo spar wins and one that can count towards singles spar wins as well and make the duos streak wins. Another thing is make a cool staff that does 20 dmg if you have 500k kills and 50k spar wins. You should also make it so that there are spar tournaments so basically how there are automated messages sent from admins that host like mini events and you can get coins or gralats if you win it you should do that for spar so that it attracts more people. Also how there is a pk room for like who has the most in that month or day you should make one for spar
Not sure how VPNs work, but can't you keep track of people's IP addresses and if they change from America to Japan and back in 5 minutes then jail them?
Can we have Elo be implemented as a stat? So we could see how we actually rank against other players
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I can consider a little melee spar minigame mode with a couple of rewards, if there's enough demand in future.Quote:
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The rotating gun concept is cool, I could realistically script that without much effort so that's something I'll consider.
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ELO is something I am looking into implementing. No promises, but it's on the table.Quote:
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You don't need a VPN to have high ping; VPNs are mostly banned from Era now anyway. A more general ping system would be much better.Quote:
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This update is just for Complex as mentioned in the original post.Quote:
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Make a new guns rewards better than auctions guns
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would it be a good idea to leave a vector with an individual bag option? and that with that she could also move around the stand stored in the suitcase! it would be a good change in my opinion since the vector has the animation of the suitcase but I can't move around with it...Quote:
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If a competitive Elo/Glicko rating system is added, would it be possible to have a matchmaking queue as well? I've been off playing Tetris on tetr.io and they have it so that every ranked match is a series (First to 3, 5, or 7 depending on rating). Over there, a match takes ~10 minutes on average for competitive Tetris of all things. Series for every match would help rank players more accurately and you would be able to adjust your strategy for a certain opponent as time went on.
Here's a quick infographic on the Tetrio ranked system: https://tetris.wiki/images/thumb/4/4...n_-_Tetrio.png
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Also, a low budget spar room would be nice. Something like only guns 10k gralats and under. At that tier, players have to really adapt to the obvious strengths and weaknesses each gun has.
What about rewards for most spar wins daily, top 3 people get a reward like an EC
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This is a great idea! It will definitely bring back old sparers and make the current ones happy. I have a few ideas but I don’t know if they are good or not:
- Ban Room: Players vote for a weapon to be banned for the next few spar matches. (Keycard weapons or whatever they room wants to ban)
-Gun Game Type Room: Players are given a random a weapon in the database and get to spar with it. ( Wins don’t count but its still fun )
-A M13 from MW would be pretty cool for the new weapon
Either way, a spar complex revamp would be so good for the game