ow so its just an coincidence that it got changed when i brought up my complaint?
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bandanas are aloud but not glasses why is that?
The hat rule and what is and is not acceptable was in place well before I was staff so I would be guessing at the reasons behind some of the rules. To me if we sell something in-game, it is pretty obvious why we would not want to allow it free on customs. Some of the smaller bandanas were allowed in compromise I think and because we did not sell something entirely similar at the time.
Yes Simplest, your complaint did get to snk and he reviewed the rules again. After a discussion with the management team we deemed the way it was worded caused too much confusion and it was not really feasible to search logs for each upload date so we opted to amend the rules. The change was not personal on you; however, it was the catalyst for additional discussion and decision.
" Heads with hats such as gasmasks or other hats similar to what we sell in iEra"
similar head or hats is not aloud but mine isnt even similar and im saying hats coz u consider glasses as hats
"Heads with glasses" not personal huh?
I was told before by keuronako that the rule was in place to prevent gang hats from being used. I don't see why the upload admins can't just look at the head and see that there is obviously no gang hat on it.
Similar to what we sell in iEra.
Glasses similar to the ones you had on your custom head are sold in era, so this is the most likely reason for the head being illegal.
Simplest "glasses" is not even close to how era has them on sale(shades).
Their just big, but not covering the eyes of it or any black pixels on. It's just the shape of a glasses- there isn't anything on it other than that.
"Hats on heads", that's one small step of unacceptable custom.
How are glasses a hat?
Glasses are an accessory...just like bandanas and scarfs. You can't create new rules saying glasses are not allowed but other accessories are allowed. I'm not really on anyone's side I am just saying it how I see it.
I'm making the hair on my head a flame :p before this they allowed it but idk now...
ikr glasses hats and bandanas are all accesorries so i duno why my glasses is not aloud.
well actualy this might be the reason why glasses are banned but not bandans maybe coz only some people have glasses on their heads that means not a lot of refunds but if they also ban bandanas it will lead to more refunds wich staff isnt very keen on doing so they just let it off
Not according to the dictionary.
Glasses are devices used to help vision, and are worn on the face. The face is part of the head. Glasses are therefore worn on the head, as are hats. Technically, glasses can be classified as both an accessory and a hat. Scarfs are worn around the neck, a bandana is worn on the head (so technically a hat) and ear-rings are jewelry, so they are an accessory.
"Head covering of any of various styles, used for warmth, fashion, or religious or ceremonial purposes,..." That's another definition of hat. Glasses can be used for fashion and for legitimate health correction. It's both an accessory and it's a hat.
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Oh I was not aware hats are worn for warmth
To me it sounds like ser was wrong and snk knew it so he tried to pay simplest off to not make it a big deal and then simplest made it a big deal so they took it all away
btw uploaded a head that had a bandama around mouth and was like keeping warmth was asking for full refund and ser told me sorry that is allowed i was laik wtf 0.o
btw dont have jenis head a hairbandama to hold hair back isnt this a fashion item?
Could ser please post why he refunded it? After simplest had the head for like a year or so and nobody did anything.
That's the whole point- why did he do this now. If he didn't, this wouldn't be a mishap.
Well as wetaru said snk must have thought ser was wrong so was giving extra money to keep quiet so people don't know ser was wrong and riot against him. Because I know for a fact 100% sure not every admin agrees with this but they will mever say because they must have each other's back and could lose their job for speaking out against top admins.
Lolz
Ear-rings are not on the head, as I said. The ear is not part of the head, it's an attachment of the head. And besides that, they do not currently serve any other purpose than looking pretty, and they're classified as jewelry. Jewelry is an accessory as I already said.
If we're talking graal standards, anything worn or put on the head is a hat. By Graal standards, a beaver is a hat.
hello, First, i dont hate simplest or something like that, for me all the players are the same on era, second heads with hats are allowed, when we speak about hats we talk about hats or accesories that we sell it on era, we sell glasses on era, that's mean we can't approve simplest head or others heads with glasses.
we had a rule about grandfathered heads, this rule is so hard to check because we need to check all the logs to know when the head was uploaded and if we need to do that with all heads will waste time ineccesary. Jeni said already that the management deparment decided to delete this rule, so we can't approve heads with glasses or hats.
i hope you understand that, I'm just doing my job i dont hate any player..
-Ser
As ser said above. If there's a hat ingame, any head with that hat is not allowed. And earring's are acceptable. 1. There's nothing like it ingame, and 2. That's an accessory (yes I know glasses are not hats, but they have them ingame).
This is why they shouldn't have let hats be on heads at all imo. Sure it's nice to have something on that isn't ingame, but if people make a big commotion over a bandana that is legal (and a hat) compared to glasses on the face (which isn't a hat, and is ingame as one) just get rid of the rule. Or make it more straightforward with the head rules the first time, and there wouldn't be too many people getting their heads deleted after all this time, not attacking anyone on it, I'm just saying to avoid stuff like this again.
But I guess that's your guys' rule, so goodluck on fixing it so it won't have to change anymore.
Now simplest needs to get a better head without glasses and not to get it deleted a year later..