You guys still hope for a change? Era's dead. I just got fired for literally doing nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJ4
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You guys still hope for a change? Era's dead. I just got fired for literally doing nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJ4
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Originally Posted by Zed
Yea that's right. But we need hope. After this incident people should look up and say " I will change era".
I doubt era is going to last though , well that's what I predict
I wouldn't even be acting up like this if I really did do what the PRA said I did. I would just say goodbye and that's it or just simply leave. But no, I can't just deal with a false removal. I want to stand up for myself. I didn't get fired for what they said. I got fired because there's an area in Graal that is corrupt.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJ4
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If you guys are wondering, I'm not trying to come back to the staff team as it's not a good environment anymore. I'm only gonna stay here in the forums and the forums only. I did leave every Graal format but I just wanna keep updated here once in awhile as I'm kinda concerned about the staffs who doesn't know what's going on and especially the players.
That sucks, man. Sorry about that :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Zed
hey man can you briefly explain what happened ? : oQuote:
Originally Posted by Zed
Just read his latest posts xdQuote:
Originally Posted by LordFreak
that doesn't explain the reason they fired him forQuote:
Originally Posted by imaginary
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nvm (15 chars limit)Quote:
Originally Posted by LordFreak
Here's a brief of what happened: I woke up the next day and I got fired for "bad conduct towards staff members". They have absolutely no proof and they didn't even try to investigate. It either shows that this management is a weak or a corrupt lead. I don't want to say names specifically because I don't even know if these "staffs" who reported me for no reason really does exist or the PRA just straight up fired me because they're corrupt.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordFreak
If so many new staffs got fired, will new ones among the applications be selected again?
Yes , they starting freshQuote:
Originally Posted by Anjum9694
You got screwed, we get it. Sucks but we can't do a damn thing so please complain somewhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zed
This may completely be out of topic but hear me out..Quote:
Originally Posted by Zed
Getting volunteers (and some very young too) to manage a game can be good and bad.
Good because you get people to manage a game that they love and care about, bad because you get people who are not experienced in managing a server and a business (which games are). For this reasons and many other I am not surprised at what happened to you.
You see, bigger companies have professional people that know how to manage, have a protocol of how to, and they have to follow it because otherwise they lose the job that pays for their expenses.
In Era it is different because the only person that is getting paid is the manager. GFX artist, GANI artists, Newspaper Staff, Player Relations; none of them get paid, and if they do get paid with igm it is a ****ty amount in my opinion. I am probably wrong but I think it is something like 15k graalants and 1EC?
You know, a lot of people believe in the "The customer is always right" phrase, which is actually wrong. Many successful business people believe that putting their employees before customers lead to a more successful business and customer service as well treated employees tend to have a greater performance on tasks.
A game cannot function properly if the staff members are not treated fairly. They are not being paid, and they have to deal with **** from players ALL THE TIME. Because Era has a very young demographic with some kids not being able to understand basic morals/respect. Not only that but they have to deal with things like yours, where people are firing other just because.
I think that most of Era's problems comes with how the community treat admins as well as how admins treat other admins. Maybe once we fix that we can see how to solve other problems regarding the game.
Because like someone around here said, a successful game is not only about getting new players and making money from it, but making the community enjoy the game (as well as staff members).
Now I am by no means saying that the Admin system they have for the graal games is bad, and I am not targeting any current admin. We have had very good ones, some who are still with us and some who have unfortunately resigned. I am just saying, there is definitely an ongoing problem, specially after the mass resignation.
I also wanna point out that my facts regarding in game payment may be wrong, it is something I read once a while ago so I can't remember well.
Anyways,
It's unfortunate to see you being fired, I wish we could do more. If someone stood out from the newspaper team it was you. Definitely.
its true that they get 15k gralats and 1 ec a monthQuote:
Originally Posted by NaniRima
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you just can't have a positive reaction anywhere. every time i see you comment its always criticizing or acting **** towards others..Quote:
Originally Posted by Draxx
Prs get around 15k and 1 ec. The rest get moreQuote:
Originally Posted by LordFreak
gud to know but i was talking about prs anywaysQuote:
Originally Posted by imaginary
I can tell you that is incorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by imaginary
Keep this discussion in another thread plz or pm.
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Oh then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulletzone
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Please tell me what is happening in game staff? :confused:
I believe that was a warning given to you, but your reactions to the warning afterwards is the true reason you got fired. I will not explain any further for the respect of everyone's privacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zed
Warns are verbally given. And if it happens that a staff ends up suspended, the staff suspending HAS TO notify the suspended staff that he got suspended and why.Quote:
Originally Posted by PINEHONEY
For his case, it looks like a random fire with no real reason behind it, because even if you're fired, you have the right to ask why to the staff who fired you and he HAS TO tell you why. As far as I know, he was just thrown away without any words said to him on why he's been removed off iEra, I don't know who fired him but, looks like he/she missed a few important things on his/her job, or his/her job was poorly taught to him/her.
You know a lot about this Kirzey. Can you tell us what rank staff members and above are allowed to fire Player Relations?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirzey
From this, it seems that someone's trying to find fault with him. Because who the hell would give a warning for someone to bait him to react and then use his reaction to justify a fire. That's sabotage. It must have been the way the warning was given - which I presume to be harsh and agitative.Quote:
Originally Posted by PINEHONEY
From what I have witnessed, there has been a solid reason given and a warn has been verbally given prior to his reaction. Zed has not been entirely truthful about how the events went down. He definitely did not wake up one morning to suddenly find that he was removed, that much I can ensure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirzey
^^^. Zed was told why he was fired, the only thing that was not mentioned was the names of staff who helped with the decision, in hopes it wouldn't turn into a witch hunt or them being harassed/slandered on the forums or in game. The warnings given to him were also not in a nasty way, which I'm sure even Zed can admit. They were given as nicely as possible. The 1st "warning" was basically just passing on info from management about a particular hat that was not allowed to be used, was responded to rudely instead of just saying "ok no worries thanks for letting me know". He was not "baited" into reacting in that manner, no one was trying to get him fired. There is always 2 (or more) sides to every story and of course each time it's told it will be different, but there is some stuff that he has left out in order to make it look like the decision was not justified. This is all I will say about the situation on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by PINEHONEY
Careful what you say!!!!!!!!!!! Don't get fired!Quote:
Originally Posted by PINEHONEY
If everything you said is true then honestly it's not the management's fault at all. There was no reason for him to bad mouth too.Quote:
Originally Posted by PINEHONEY
"Prior to his reaction". I want you to explain to me what my reaction was. I'm giving you permission to execute those details to everyone. I only executed my reaction which is considered "attitude" by Cally because I was trying to defend and stand out for myself. Lmao, sure I got warned for somethig weird that just came out of nowhere, which is "bad conduct". You're not explaining what I said about her and YOU towards Junz. Before expecting me to have a bad conduct, you're just simply showing injustice because yourself wasn't dealt about your attitude too and Cally. That's what you're missing out and not a lot knows that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PINEHONEY
Not the place to be discussing this.
Are Gani apps even technically available right now? I know they're supposed to be still open, however we don't have a Gani Admin to take care of them...
- pine is a PR and cally is AU PRAQuote:
Originally Posted by Amped
@the gani part - I believe Michel Dorvay is still in charge
By Pine I mean Pinehoney, the Global Moderator.Quote:
Originally Posted by imaginary
And Michel Dorvay is still staff?
Ya Pine is a mod and a prQuote:
Originally Posted by Amped
And yea I see Michel online sometimes
Anyone who further derails this thread after this Post is made; shall receive a warning, If you already have a warning for Derailing threads (You know who you are) you will receive an Infraction.
If you want to discuss anything, Create a new thread or take it to the PM's.
I think this thread needs to be updated more often. It's been a week and a half since the last update
I shall aim to be updating the thread daily.
However, expect definite updates every 3-5 days.
For the "Removed" section, I won't be specifying which staff was removed only which position they were removed from.
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I've linked all staff forum accounts as well, so this list is fully up to date :)
Glad to see Olirus is back his GFX skills are the best imho.
Also congrats to ShizGodsu.
BZ is Tricky still head moderator her last activity was more than 2 weeks ago.
https://www.era-go.com/forum/showthr...145#post447145
Trickys last post says Au Revoir.
P.S its spelled Olirus not Olirius
Shizgodsu is back? this isnt right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donald
GFX team was hiring? .-.
No, they tend to hire people that have already been on the team before.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaniRima
Olirus and Shiz have had that position prior, they've just been re-hired.
I thought Shiz was blacklisted