Dear Homophobes

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Originally Posted by Kendrick

It can be written too long ago, but they're will always be the "New Testament". Priests, or very religious people can "update" the bible with new testaments, for they are connected to god.

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That is false, Priests are not connected to god nor are very religious people. They are humans trying to spread the word of 'god'. They are not allowed to update it as all bibles must remain very very similar to the original. The only reason for updating it is for easier to understand words.

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Originally Posted by Tempest T

They are mostly just really conservative Christians. I sometimes have trouble with that religion because of that.

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Im christian but i was taugh to love everyone for who they are
The bible even says to love everyone

What I meant were people who are very connected to God, like Pope, Cardinals, or Archbishops.

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Originally Posted by domenico

Lies. God created us all normally oriented to enjoy the other s3x (don't know if I can type the word). When we break our natural state and decide to suddenly lust ourselves with the same-s3x, that IS a choice.

"You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
-Leviticus 18:22

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There was this one verse i forgot but it was like
If one cannot live his / her brother or sister you do not love God
Something like that

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Originally Posted by Kendrick

Kendrick here, I was homophobic before, even ask Tricky.

Thing is, it wasn't my religion belief, so don't point religion, because it's the certain way people think. Now I think differently, thanks for Tricky, but I still don't like them.
They used to gross me out. It was a disgrace to see men date men. When life as it is was given to us to love women. I didn't care about "love", back then. I've always had my mind set into girls, thinking if a homosexual was close to me, I would of gotten that too. Which I didn't want and wouldn't want, because come on..
Women are beautiful creations of God (Or monkeys, whatever you believe in) Why on earth would I want to like a man? That was my belief, before.
Homosexuals were very rare in my town to see, so most people freak out when they see one.

Now I think differently, but I still wouldn't really want to be close to one nor do I support it. Want to hate at me? Just PM me, this is an opinion and that's why the thread was made, right?

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Same i use to be homophobic not because my religion but i just grew up like that
But when i called someone it whne they were married to a guy on era he taugh me about it and stuff
And it changed my perspective

I'm not for gays, but I'm also not against gays. I don't really care, homophobes might not be able to help the way they think, so essentially hating on them is what they're doing, so just leave it be.

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Originally Posted by Distorted

First time I come back to these forums and I see this haha.

Let me just go off on a tirade really quick. First off, homosexuals aren't capable of feeling the way they feel about the opposite gender, it's just in their instinct, similar to how we are instinctively attracted to whichever gender we are attracted to, speaking in a general broad manner. The idea that your god would punish the individuals for acting on their instincts that they are unable to help is simply preposterous. I don't know what forces are out there in the universe, or if your religion is correct or incorrect, I simply don't. Nor is it my place to decide. All I can say is that something much more wonderful than we can possibly imagine must be happening, and I doubt just because someone isn't necessarily straight, that they would be excluded from that.

And if you are against it just because of your religion, then you're just close minded.

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One of the posts that stood out to me from the past.

Well honestly, I think homophobes aren't necessarily against homosexuals themselves, but more of the idea. I feel as if they're scared that someone is different in such an important matter. For example I grew up with this one kid, he was a great dude when we were younger, but then when we started to get older we slowly drifted apart, I think it was mainly due to how we are, what I mean is I consider myself a pretty open-minded person, but he's kind of the opposite. I think the close-minded mindset really factors in here, think about it. If you're used to something for your entire existence, and someone just throws something at you that you've never heard of, how would you react? Not very well I suppose. I talked with him recently about why he's so against gays, and all he told me was that he doesn't really understand it. Which brought me to this thought: Is homophobia literally based off ignorance? Maybe all those homophobes out there just don't understand how someone can be so much different from them. Maybe if those people had a better grasp on it they wouldn't feel the way they do? A good thing to compare this to would have to be Science, you probably don't really find Science very interesting, but you also don't understand it very well, but on the opposite side there's Scientists out there who find it extraordinary, and study it for a profession, do you think they like it because they understand it? Maybe, or it could just be their mindset. We all live off our mindsets, they define us as people. Some of our mindsets may clash with others, but we can't help ours. So why think harshly of someone for their mindset? How can they help it? They can't control it, just like homosexuality. I think homophobia is two things, a disease and a mindset. Why think badly of them for it? Accept them as much as anyone else. But if they act on what they believe and harm anyone, well then bullets are gonna fly, and hell I won't feel bad if they fall. But if they don't harm anyone, just leave them be.

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Originally Posted by Distorted

Well honestly, I think homophobes aren't necessarily against homosexuals themselves, but more of the idea.

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Thank you for actually saying it like it is. The rest of your statement, however, was Clinton talk, meaning it's all incorrect. Homophobia would be an irrational fear or hatred of homosexuals, if it really existed. The current usage of terms like "homophobic" and "homophobe" imply that all opposition to homosexuality is crazy. Actually there are many sociological, psychological and medical reasons that many logically-thinking people oppose homosexuality. People who abuse terms like "homophobia" are implying (whether they know it or not), that it's impossible to "love the sinner and hate the sin". No one talks about opposition to alcoholism in terms of hatred, because groups like Alcoholics Anonymous have popularized the view that drinking alcohol is addictive. The term homophobia, when it is applied to every criticism of homosexuality, implies that all such criticism is irrational.

Commenting on its psychological use, WorldNetDaily managing editor David Kupelian states, "This is how the "marketers of evil" work on all of us. They transform our attitudes by making us feel as though our "super uncomfortable" feelings toward embracing unnatural or corrupt behavior of whatever sort – a discomfort literally put into us by a loving God, for our protection – somehow represent ignorance or bigotry or weakness."

Homophobia is an etymologically incorrect term which most directly denotes "an unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality", but it also includes a fear of increased political and social power of homosexuals in advancing their agenda. The term is used regularly by activists to describe several kinds of people, which may or may not match the actual definition of "fear of homosexuals and homosexuality". The recipients of the homophobia label include those who feel uncomfortable around homosexuals, those who reveal that they oppose "gays," and even those who may privately support homosexuality but who fail to publicly support homosexuals when called upon to do so. Conservative Christians and other people who strongly object to homosexuality often take offense at this term, which had led to the use of the term heterophobia to describe those who manifest an antipathy to those who uphold heterosexuality as normative or exclusively valid. While the term phobia is an irrational fear of something, nobody is afraid of homosexuals, and nobody fears contracting homosexuality. That is in contrast to heterophobia, whose existence has been documented.

VIOLENCE against gays, however, is something that I despise. You can respect or disrespect who ever the hell you want, but if you have to hurt them, that is completely immoral, incorrect, and wrong. In 1990, Congress passed the Hate Crime Statistics Act, which required the Attorney General to collect data about crimes that manifest evidence of prejudice based on race, religion, sexual orientation, or ethnicity/national origin. In 1994, lawmakers amended the Hate Crime Statistics Act to include bias against persons with disabilities.

There are many arguments against homosexuality based on religious grounds and on its effects on society which include such matters as the negative health effects of homosexuality and that homosexual couples experience significant higher rates of domestic violence.

In 2003, the Pew Research Center stated that in the United States, religious beliefs underpin opposition to homosexuality according to a study they conducted. Judeo-Christian objections nearly always refer to what the Bible states about homosexuality, which, it is argued, condemns homosexual acts in both Old and New Testaments. For example, Leviticus 18:22 says; "A man shall not lie with man as with a woman, it is abomination". Romans 1:26-28: "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"

Some liberals argue that historically, condemnation of those sexual acts was simply based on them being unnatural to procreation, and thus contrary to (a definition of) unnatural, inferring that such condemnation is invalid due to ignorance of sexuality.

However, as seen in dealing with Homosexuality and biblical interpretation, the union of man and women in marriage is based upon them being created as uniquely compatible and and complementary, and the sanction of sexual union (via marriage) as only between opposite genders extends beyond procreation, with romantic sexual attraction between married couples being honored outside the context of children in such books as the Song of Solomon, and with marital sexual relations being enjoined in 1 Cor. 7:5 on the basis of heterosexual desire.

Motive can be a moral factor in who to marry among lawful partners, and within marriage, but is never a determinate factor in the Scriptural prohibitions of illicit partners, from fornication between heterosexuals to adultery to homosexual unions to bestiality, while grace is offered for salvation to all who will come to faith in Christ with a repentant heart.

"For God has not given us a spirit of timidity, but of power and love and discipline." -2 Timothy 1:7

Enough already, my hand is going to fall off if I type one more word.
close this thread.

Holy, essay.

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Originally Posted by domenico

Thank you for actually saying it like it is. The rest of your statement, however, was Clinton talk, meaning it's all incorrect. Homophobia would be an irrational fear or hatred of homosexuals, if it really existed. The current usage of terms like "homophobic" and "homophobe" imply that all opposition to homosexuality is crazy. Actually there are many sociological, psychological and medical reasons that many logically-thinking people oppose homosexuality. People who abuse terms like "homophobia" are implying (whether they know it or not), that it's impossible to "love the sinner and hate the sin". No one talks about opposition to alcoholism in terms of hatred, because groups like Alcoholics Anonymous have popularized the view that drinking alcohol is addictive. The term homophobia, when it is applied to every criticism of homosexuality, implies that all such criticism is irrational.

Commenting on its psychological use, WorldNetDaily managing editor David Kupelian states, "This is how the "marketers of evil" work on all of us. They transform our attitudes by making us feel as though our "super uncomfortable" feelings toward embracing unnatural or corrupt behavior of whatever sort – a discomfort literally put into us by a loving God, for our protection – somehow represent ignorance or bigotry or weakness."

Homophobia is an etymologically incorrect term which most directly denotes "an unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality", but it also includes a fear of increased political and social power of homosexuals in advancing their agenda. The term is used regularly by activists to describe several kinds of people, which may or may not match the actual definition of "fear of homosexuals and homosexuality". The recipients of the homophobia label include those who feel uncomfortable around homosexuals, those who reveal that they oppose "gays," and even those who may privately support homosexuality but who fail to publicly support homosexuals when called upon to do so. Conservative Christians and other people who strongly object to homosexuality often take offense at this term, which had led to the use of the term heterophobia to describe those who manifest an antipathy to those who uphold heterosexuality as normative or exclusively valid. While the term phobia is an irrational fear of something, nobody is afraid of homosexuals, and nobody fears contracting homosexuality. That is in contrast to heterophobia, whose existence has been documented.

VIOLENCE against gays, however, is something that I despise. You can respect or disrespect who ever the hell you want, but if you have to hurt them, that is completely immoral, incorrect, and wrong. In 1990, Congress passed the Hate Crime Statistics Act, which required the Attorney General to collect data about crimes that manifest evidence of prejudice based on race, religion, sexual orientation, or ethnicity/national origin. In 1994, lawmakers amended the Hate Crime Statistics Act to include bias against persons with disabilities.

There are many arguments against homosexuality based on religious grounds and on its effects on society which include such matters as the negative health effects of homosexuality and that homosexual couples experience significant higher rates of domestic violence.

In 2003, the Pew Research Center stated that in the United States, religious beliefs underpin opposition to homosexuality according to a study they conducted. Judeo-Christian objections nearly always refer to what the Bible states about homosexuality, which, it is argued, condemns homosexual acts in both Old and New Testaments. For example, Leviticus 18:22 says; "A man shall not lie with man as with a woman, it is abomination". Romans 1:26-28: "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;"

Some liberals argue that historically, condemnation of those sexual acts was simply based on them being unnatural to procreation, and thus contrary to (a definition of) unnatural, inferring that such condemnation is invalid due to ignorance of sexuality.

However, as seen in dealing with Homosexuality and biblical interpretation, the union of man and women in marriage is based upon them being created as uniquely compatible and and complementary, and the sanction of sexual union (via marriage) as only between opposite genders extends beyond procreation, with romantic sexual attraction between married couples being honored outside the context of children in such books as the Song of Solomon, and with marital sexual relations being enjoined in 1 Cor. 7:5 on the basis of heterosexual desire.

Motive can be a moral factor in who to marry among lawful partners, and within marriage, but is never a determinate factor in the Scriptural prohibitions of illicit partners, from fornication between heterosexuals to adultery to homosexual unions to bestiality, while grace is offered for salvation to all who will come to faith in Christ with a repentant heart.

"For God has not given us a spirit of timidity, but of power and love and discipline." -2 Timothy 1:7

Enough already, my hand is going to fall off if I type one more word.
close this thread.

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