I think its better at 30 minutes or 45 minutes is 10 EC, or even an hour. Getting 40 EC every 2 hours wouldn't really make sense
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I think its better at 30 minutes or 45 minutes is 10 EC, or even an hour. Getting 40 EC every 2 hours wouldn't really make sense
No one will win 4 lucky draw dude...
Oh i thought you meant that the graalian got 40 EC by winning a lucky draw, lol
Chiming in late, but sabers should NEVER be given out, and this whole idea had a good motive, but is not going to do much in the way of promoting basing in the long run. Different requirements to be entered and a unique prize for the winner would be a good start.
-Gets asked to stop giving out so much free ec
-Decides to start giving out the ec items for free instead
How about this. When a player wins the raffle, they get a one week trial of whatever weapon they win. That way, it's still giving back to the players, yet not pissing us all off. Also, I hope this raffle thing doesn't happen every day (maybe once a month) because you pretty much need 20 people to hold a base.
U dont need to hold it
That whatever weapon better be anything under 50 ec.Quote:
Originally Posted by CHAOS
Think about it.
Spending countless hours winning and losing events for days on end to earn a saber
VS.
Winning a Fkin Drawing to get one
Then these moderators wonder why people rage on these forums. It's the decisions these admins make that make no sense at all yet are realized.
Anoter light saber another chaplain. Snk should really play as a player, he would understand players better..
Undercover boss lol :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Yogy Navy
How do you enter the contest for the ec items
Solo a base dam come on read the dam news...
people are so butthurt its just a game not real life just take it how it is graal got ****ty anyway but this is a good thing that came to graal
because some wont be able to win saber even if they try to win events and this pisses off people who hog event coins and always win
so its giving you people a chance but you just have to be lucky
They pretty much give ec out for free? Achievements, ec uploads, and literally the "here have a free ec since your on" pm. Not to mention chance events. It's not a good thing this was added. How would you like it, if you spent all your time collecting rares or whatever you do, than someone wins a raffle and has the exact same things as you for doing nothing at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slick
Ok bud, I understand but do you? Giving away 3 saber and gas launcher is as good as giving 1M Gralats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slick
You're just another player who wants to win a good item without earning for it.
Chaplain is 75ec, come on snk.
I suggest all gangs that are strong to hold a base zone with many members and not let anyone flag rush or lag in to get it just to enter lucky draw.
Saves the newbs to get good items.
It's called lucky draw for a reason. You guys all sound like greedy asshats wanting it to be changed because you don't want players having the sabers. Stop complaining, if you won I'm sure you wouldn't be.
lol its just a game dude
Ok snk better remove these sabers. I've already revieced pms asking "did you win that saber in the raffle?"
It used to be always if you had a saber, most people respected you and your hard work, but now, you get accusations that you won it in a stupid raffle.
Shut up please, you and ghettoicedtea just complain, stop complaining and be productive. Please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Collin Rosato Magus
What is he supposed to do? Just accept changes that are dumb? Honestly what do you suggest he do to "be productive" complaining is the only thing we can do.Quote:
Originally Posted by iRockstar Ciprioni
Complaining and speaking out against unfair things are two completely different things. You can never expect everybody to be happy with whatever happens, because people will always have a reason against it.Quote:
Originally Posted by iRockstar Ciprioni
ok the Sabres are still in, but the chance is reduced quite a lot. (there are 2 normal sabres and 2 double still in)
wow, I guess you are in favor for those who won a saber in a simple drawing and against those who spent hours and hours in the events winning and losing over and over again. i'm done yoQuote:
Originally Posted by snk
This is now the list, it will select one at random from it. The ones with a '//' at the front are disabled
It's all random now. Apologies for adding all sabres, and thank you to the person that mentioned it.HTML Code:this.luckydraw_items = {
"ChaplainDagger",
"EventItem_29Knife",
"EventItem_ArtilleryCannon",
"EventItem_Bamboorod",
"EventItem_BloodDagger",
"EventItem_Gun_GasLauncher",
"EventItem_Hell",
"EventItem_HunterKnife",
"EventItem_IronBreaker",
"EventItem_Katana",
"EventItem_Legend",
"EventItem_LightSabre_Blue",
"EventItem_LightSabre_Green",
// "EventItem_LightSabre_Pink",
// "EventItem_LightSabre_Purple",
// "EventItem_LightSabre_Red",
// "EventItem_LightSabre_White",
"EventItem_Luger",
"EventItem_MiddleAge",
"EventItem_RedMace",
"EventItem_Scimitar",
"EventItem_SpiritDagger",
"EventItem_Stungun",
"EventItem_ToxicBlade",
"EventItem_Water",
"Gun_AK74u_SD",
"Gun_ChainsawGun",
"Gun_FlameThrower",
"Melee_DragonDagger",
"Melee_InquisitorDagger",
"Melee_KuroMachete",
// "Melee_LightSabre_Double_Black",
"Melee_LightSabre_Double_Blue",
// "Melee_LightSabre_Double_Gold",
"Melee_LightSabre_Double_Green",
// "Melee_LightSabre_Double_Pink",
// "Melee_LightSabre_Double_Purple",
// "Melee_LightSabre_Double_Red",
// "Melee_LightSabre_Double_White"
};
Read my below post. You'll see why I removed the sabres.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricky
You probably won't understand it though...
Blue and green don't have // :? And what about the guns that you said would be excluded such as flamethrower (100 ec)Quote:
Originally Posted by snk
2 double seems fair a bit for now.
Just want this to end quickly so people won't keep basing and saying 'I wanna win!!'.
I replied earlier with- "ok the Sabres are still in, but the chance is reduced quite a lot. (there are 2 normal sabres and 2 double still in)"Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricky
Just because people don't like certain items in the list doesn't mean they shouldn't be there. I reduced the chance of sabres as the list (as you can see) had a lot in. Look at it this way
With the changes to the items here are the % chance of winning it
If I include all sabresHTML Code:Item: ChaplainDagger 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_29Knife 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_ArtilleryCannon 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Bamboorod 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_BloodDagger 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Gun_GasLauncher 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Hell 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_HunterKnife 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_IronBreaker 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Katana 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Legend 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_LightSabre_Blue 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_LightSabre_Green 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Luger 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_MiddleAge 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_RedMace 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Scimitar 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_SpiritDagger 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Stungun 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_ToxicBlade 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Water 3.448275862%
Item: Gun_AK74u_SD 3.448275862%
Item: Gun_ChainsawGun 3.448275862%
Item: Gun_FlameThrower 3.448275862%
Item: Melee_DragonDagger 3.448275862%
Item: Melee_InquisitorDagger 3.448275862%
Item: Melee_KuroMachete 3.448275862%
Item: Melee_LightSabre_Double_Blue 3.448275862%
Item: Melee_LightSabre_Double_Green 3.448275862%
See how the difference is only 1% but there are 10 Light Sabres in total removed.HTML Code:Item: ChaplainDagger 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_29Knife 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_ArtilleryCannon 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_Bamboorod 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_BloodDagger 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_Gun_GasLauncher 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_Hell 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_HunterKnife 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_IronBreaker 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_Katana 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_Legend 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_LightSabre_Blue 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_LightSabre_Green 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_LightSabre_Pink 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_LightSabre_Purple 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_LightSabre_Red 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_LightSabre_White 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_Luger 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_MiddleAge 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_RedMace 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_Scimitar 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_SpiritDagger 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_Stungun 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_ToxicBlade 2.564102564%
Item: EventItem_Water 2.564102564%
Item: Gun_AK74u_SD 2.564102564%
Item: Gun_ChainsawGun 2.564102564%
Item: Gun_FlameThrower 2.564102564%
Item: Melee_DragonDagger 2.564102564%
Item: Melee_InquisitorDagger 2.564102564%
Item: Melee_KuroMachete 2.564102564%
Item: Melee_LightSabre_Double_Black 2.564102564%
Item: Melee_LightSabre_Double_Blue 2.564102564%
Item: Melee_LightSabre_Double_Gold 2.564102564%
Item: Melee_LightSabre_Double_Green 2.564102564%
Item: Melee_LightSabre_Double_Pink 2.564102564%
Item: Melee_LightSabre_Double_Purple 2.564102564%
Item: Melee_LightSabre_Double_Red 2.564102564%
Item: Melee_LightSabre_Double_White 2.564102564%
(if you add up all those 2.5 whatevers for sabres there was roughly a 28% chance to obtain a light sabre before the changes... now there is only a 6% chance)
HTML Code:Item: ChaplainDagger 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_29Knife 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_ArtilleryCannon 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_Bamboorod 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_BloodDagger 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_Gun_GasLauncher 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_Hell 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_HunterKnife 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_IronBreaker 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_Katana 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_Legend 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_LightSabre_Blue 2.857142857% 28.571428571%
Item: EventItem_Luger 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_MiddleAge 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_RedMace 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_Scimitar 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_SpiritDagger 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_Stungun 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_ToxicBlade 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: EventItem_Water 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: Gun_AK74u_SD 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: Gun_ChainsawGun 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: Gun_FlameThrower 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: Melee_DragonDagger 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: Melee_InquisitorDagger 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Item: Melee_KuroMachete 2.857142857% 2.857142857%
Sounds good
I suggested 1 saber, and then if the saber gets choosen and someone wins, it will add a random saber to there acc, same thing goes for double, i think you said this couldn't be done right?
why must be the lucky prize choose from events item?why doesn't make something special new item like gold m4 ?
Why we still need hardwork earn events coin if there're this lucky draw
I didn't think it would be an issue to be honest. I've learned from this we need to create special 'free' items in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1111
What is the difference between the most recent list of probabilities (Post #150) and the list that contains two of each type of saber (Post #149)? The most recent list clearly has less items, but each item has a lower probability instead of a higher one (changes from 3.44 to 2.85). Which one is the one currently being used?
Also, in the most recent list, the blue lightsaber has a 2.85% followed by a 28.57%, unlike the other items which have a 2.58% followed by another 2.58%.
Quote:
Originally Posted by snk
I just wish can replace/remove list/their prize (100ec item saber,double,flame,gas launcher) to another item or less then 50ec item...hope the wish come true...Quote:
Originally Posted by snk
This is the one we're usingQuote:
Originally Posted by General Wang
If you add up the Light Sabre (normal) % = 6.88% winHTML Code:Item: ChaplainDagger 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_29Knife 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_ArtilleryCannon 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Bamboorod 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_BloodDagger 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Gun_GasLauncher 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Hell 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_HunterKnife 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_IronBreaker 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Katana 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Legend 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_LightSabre_Blue 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_LightSabre_Green 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Luger 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_MiddleAge 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_RedMace 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Scimitar 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_SpiritDagger 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Stungun 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_ToxicBlade 3.448275862%
Item: EventItem_Water 3.448275862%
Item: Gun_AK74u_SD 3.448275862%
Item: Gun_ChainsawGun 3.448275862%
Item: Gun_FlameThrower 3.448275862%
Item: Melee_DragonDagger 3.448275862%
Item: Melee_InquisitorDagger 3.448275862%
Item: Melee_KuroMachete 3.448275862%
Item: Melee_LightSabre_Double_Blue 3.448275862%
Item: Melee_LightSabre_Double_Green 3.448275862%
If you add up the Light Sabre (double) % = 6.88% win.
there is now only 13% chance to win a Sabre, 86% chance to win another item.
Post #150 was summing up all the Sabres but counting them as one entity -
Per Sabre chance to win one was 2.857142857%, the 28.571428571% is all the Sabre's added up (2.857142857 * 10 (total types of sabres) = 28.571428571. This is ignoring the 4 we have included)HTML Code:Item: EventItem_LightSabre_Blue 2.857142857% 28.571428571%
Well done to snk who figured out a better way to do things then to just remove every saber.
Thank this guy - although his % was incorrect he had a valid point. Thank you Poorface.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poorface
This lucky draw prize got 100ec item will be great for player who lazy earn EC and wish to get 100ec item but unfair for who got 100ec item earn EC by work hard... After they won the 100ec item by easy keep showoff they better b'cos lower online time and got 100ec item...