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Who's in charge of the weapon stats chart? Those stats are outdated and players are going to be misled by those stats. Especially the Pl9 Shotgun stats in the gun stats. Considering it was terrible in it's initial release, after it was balanced, the stats in the gun stats thread wasn't updated to the newer Pl9 Shotgun.
I think it was done by jeni and rec, it wasn't really kept to date which was why I made this thread.
Speaking of which
Kap 40 Nerf- Freeze increase from 0.16-0.18, reload from 0.1-0.2. 40k pistol, had stats comparable to pdw, yet better
And if you find p2ks arent as good as they were, it is because they were reverted to their original stats. Rec gave p2k duals 0.12 freeze, 0.24 firerate as a test but forgot to change back, since you had a gun that was better than souizen in every way except for freeze where it was the same. Its freeze is now 0.1545 as before, and the rest was kept the same.
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Released a new spar gun that requires 22.5k spar wins and costs 100k. It's an M4a3 and is quite unique, it has the ability to switch hands you hold it in (not so useful for left and right but very handy with up and down sparring), as well as a handgun that comes with it which, since it's smaller than the m4 you could quickly switch to and use for close ranges.
Stats for the M4 and pistol are
Name: M4a3
Price: 100k
Freeze: 0.132
Firerate: 0.27
Auto: No
Clip: 16
Spread: 0.02
Reload: 0.2
M9 Pistol
Price: (comes with m4)
Freeze: 0.17
Firerate: 0.38
Clip: 10
Spread: 0.08
Reload: 0.1
Auto: No
Here are some pics to visually explain the guns abilities.
http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/...psa9f00101.jpg
http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6b5f647c.jpg
http://i1353.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7ecc32bc.jpg
Get sparring!
Uh, you make me want to spar more x-x
Still regretting getting p2ks, they work fine with single handed but dual is just too easy to get beaten.
Now we need a pk gun that has a rocket launcher you can switch out at the same time haha
Oh, yeah, that'd be cool, perhaps you could switch back and forth between a slower version of the gun game rpg and a tec9!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ventus
How much damage is the M4a3? Im guessing 9 perfect?
A sub machine gun like in battlefield with a switcheable Rpg that'd be pretty sweet. It could also be a step to classification in era if you think about it. Certain classes could have immediate on hand items you can instantly switch, over quick slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazerlatte
That's room for another thread however. Aside a PK version of this weapon type would be nice
Hey, Sam, can you add the holster ability to colt 6 and Taurus?
OMG!!!!!!!! NOT THE KAP
Rlly the only gun That was fun to use because of its quickness. Then ppl complain about era losing skill and evryone spamming and u nerf the only gun I had that actually used skill.... the only reason I spent FORTY THOUSAND for it was because of its speed. If you think other weapons that are more expensive and are worst then you should think about buffing those weapons instead of nerfing. 40k is a lot of money for ppl who don't pack buy, you basically made the kap useless. Think and Think again before nerfing any gun.
Pls change it back and buff w.e gun u think is unfairly priced.
Ok that sparring gun is good but the p2ks are **** Woow
Can u lower the freeze on the m4 it is horrific. Also it isn't fair for ppl who base/pk to be left out when everything special is released just for sparrers. This gun should be available to ppl with over 200k kills as well. By releasing special stuff for only sparrers you are saying they are superior when everyone should be equal
Because sparring is a lot tougher than PKing in an area.
If you've looked at the kill streaks room, you'll see those people in monthly room(first) has over 100-200 kill streaks. Times those number by 50 and you'll see how much they have earned.
c'mon 22k spar wins frikin22000! c'mon sparring is already so boring,just put it in a shop or something
Wow, this gun is way better than the Ghost M4.. I shouldn't have resetted my 23K spars, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiTzSam
No its not that easy if you look at the streakers they rarely have more then 200k kills. Also getting 22.5k spar wins isn't harder then getting 200k kills. Ppl can boost spar all day and ik ppl who have. Spar doesn't require more skill then basing anyone who says otherwise hasn't based.
For example this year's gst winners were not sparrers actually all the sparring gangs were eliminated by BASING gangs in the first rounds. Sparring is boring and sparrers alrdy have Vector so wtf.... sparrers suck when they aren't in a box so they need op weapons so they feel good when they step out of the complex?
Weapons that switch between hands? That's a first indeed. Outside of dual wielding pistols, those 2 spar weapons will allow high adaptability and versatility.
Pkers were given P2Ks which compared to vector are pretty balanced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syco
I do anticipate a fair and equal type PK weapon however to balance the new spar weapon.
Ur kidding right p2k's are a very expensive joke....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ventus
your understating that lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Syco
I think everyone in era can agree that the ppl who are in charge of weapon stats are doing a horrible job. I understand your trying to go for the whole pay2win kinda thing but you have gone the wrong way.
No gun on era should be useless and all of the guns should be similar in stats in terms of some guns should be speed some power and some spam. I should be able to take out a bar or bag or w.e else op weapons there are with ak47. It shouldn't be even match but it shouldn't be impossible either. Right now everyone uses the same weapon I tried to use Kap and was having fun but bitzsam decided to fix that really quickly. So far all you have done is release weapons wait until many ppl have bought it and nerfed it so it is useless and everyone goes back to the op same old weapons. You even made the classic m4 useless. If this is your money making strategy then you are doing a good job. If your intentions were to make a more balanced gameplay you have failed miserably
I have to agree with him because m4 is so underpowered now, before I took about a year break the m4 was still a great versatile gun but now its just useless. Forcing us to buy new weapons sucks, its just like apple making new devices and apps don't support older versions, its just crap... Ill stick with mining for now until things change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman
There was no reason to nerf the kap it wasn't even that good it shoots very slow the only advantage of it was a low freeze rate now it's useless. If it was better than the pdw like you say than the pdw must be total trash (I'm pretty sure the pdw shoots way faster although idk for sure what gun it is since you make all the guns look the same). I'm also going to assume the new Pk gun (if you'll even release one) will be totally over priced crap while the new spar gun will be significantly cheaper and well worth the price just like the p2k's compared to the vector. I'm glad you've released lots of new weapons with unique abilities but tbh you don't seem to be doing a good job balancing them or existing weapons.
Guns in era are used in progression. Ak47s are suppose to be able to beat bars and bags??? If that was so then what would be the point of having those guns. I didnt originally introduce these expensive guns and their stats, but now theyre there you cant just revert them back after half the servers bought them and start new. And to my knowledge the m4 hasn't been touched at all since I was hired, which means about a year, and it still looks like a good gun to me so Im not sure what your talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceman
And i gave my reasons about the kap, it had better stats than sten in every category but fire rate where it was 0.05 higher, and that isn't enough of a difference even alone (also had 0.03 less freeze, quicker reload) to constitute a 25k price gap in the two guns.
Whether like it or not this game is p2w, that was decided the moment the bar was released, and has been ever since. You just have to deal with it and just stick to the guns your used to because this can't be change unless every player is given full refunds for every gun they've bought, and the stats and prices are all completely redone which would be up to stefan, meaning there is 0 chance of that happening.
Buff the ac damage... I kinda regret buying ac last time when I knew it was only 5 damage x.x make it like 7 or higher. Idk why you guys changing the old stats into new one if the old ones were better.
The point of having a expensive gun is for a advantage not making it impossible. The m4 has gotten worst if the stats haven't changed then it might be all of the much better new guns just beating it in every category if the freeze was lowered it would be more competitive. That Kap was fine the sten is a bad gun to compare and is another example of a gun nerfed to the point no one uses. Why don't you compare it with a gun like steam punk which is now better then the Kap and cost more then 30k less. Idc that there are pay2win guns other guns which are cheaper shouldn't be useless because they cost less. That is where your job starts and stefans stops
Wait the p2k's were buffed...not only do you need 100,000 pk's to get them, you need 200,000 gralats. So they should be as good as bar AT LEAST. Then take in the fact that you need 100k pk's so not anyone can just go buy them. It takes work and time so it's like an exclusive gun.
Naa bitzsam thinks it's easy to get 200k kills. Also I agree with iceman Kap was fine where it was but watch instead of buffing the Kap he is just going to nerf another skill based gun like the Steam Punk
I'm not saying 100k kills is hard. I'm saying the p2k duals cost the same as bar so they should be just as good but they are not.
Either nerf PL9 or buff AA12. They're the same exact price and honestly AA12 kinda sucks while PL9 is basically a Shipka with an extra bullet per shot.
PL9 was nerfed
Scorpion evo has nearly, if not the same stats as tachi scorpion. 20k difference in gralats and the same exact stats
Aa12 is MUCH faster, 1 more damage im pretty sure since it was buffed to 7, and has a faster reload/ bigger clipQuote:
Originally Posted by Lazerlatte
omg dat looks so sick *o*Quote:
Originally Posted by BiTzSam
I don't buy iTunes and got an M4 for 55000 graalats, not that difficultQuote:
Originally Posted by Iceman
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M4: $55,000
Dual: No
Damage: 8
Spread: 0.1
Freeze: 0.15
Fire Rate: 0.275
Reload Freeze: 0.3
Auto: No
Clip: 16
Name: M4a3
Price: 100k
Freeze: 0.132
Firerate: 0.27
Auto: No
Clip: 16
Spread: 0.02
Reload: 0.2
Just comparing it to the original M4
Information of: http://ieragun.weebly.com/semi-automatic.html
Anything above 40k is difficult if your not shelling or doing car missions all day. Plus that is only one gun if you don't use itunes I doubt you have many guns and if you do then I doubt you have any skill and if you think you do then you use iTunes. When I buy a gun I don't expect the stats to change.
Those stats are completely wrong, m4 has never had 0.15 freeze, right now its 0.195 freeze, 0.2945 fire rateQuote:
Originally Posted by D12*
Also I would like to know how the stats are chosen. I think these admins are just guessing in the dark based on the guns around them. They have no way to justify their changes. What is the system used to determine dmg, freeze, etc. If you don't have a system yet then a 10 yr old can do your comparing stats job
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If you have a system justify this:
Steam Punk Pistol: $6500
Dual: No
Damage: 8
Spread: 0.2
Freeze: 0.11
Fire Rate: 0.65
Reload Freeze: 0.35
Auto: No
Clip: 20
KAP40: $40000
Dual: No
Damage: 8
Spread: 0
Freeze: 0.15
Fire Rate: 0.38
Reload Freeze: 0.17-0.5
Auto: No
Clip: 16
Justify the 33.5k difference
well my friends r so annoyed of the dmg of the m16 dont change AC clip to 1 its sooooooo boring...
well i wonder SVD clip reduced i thin you also play FPS games
You could have compared the stats yourself to see, steampunk has double the firerate of kap40 and is also one of the slowest firing guns in the game, time it takes to reload souizen twice is the same amount of time you can fire steampunk once. It also has increadibly high spread making it more difficult to hit people since you can't spam it. But hey if you think steampunks better than kap40 then feel free to use it instead. Then you actually will be using a gun that requires skill to useQuote:
Originally Posted by Iceman
nice