The BAR.

It's funny how this was sticky.
First of, people complain that BAR is rig, as I went on Era people said it's OP.
Please make up your minds Graalians...because if you don't, things will be worst.

Edit: Sam said it's a temporary, meaning it's only a test. I don't even want it to end lol...

11 dmg isn't much use. It is no real improvement on 10 because it still takes same amount of shots to kill. That's my opinion on the damage.
Lower clip could be a problem but the faster reload seems to just about make up for that.
I personally don't see what was accomplished by this nerf/buff because overall it is still the same. Don't get me wrong I'm not demanding a refund or saying it is a big nerf but to me it just doesn't appear much different. Whether that's good or bad I don't know.

Anyway that's my thoughts on this.

I gotta hand it to Sam- he's addressing something that every Gun Admin has wanted to address since the BAR was released.
I quote myself,

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Originally Posted by Meph

The issue I encountered as iEra Guns Admin was that the guns that were already released when I came aboard were already too powerful for my liking, and, had real money never been a factor, I would have just done what I did on PC Era and set those powerful guns to make more sense, shortening the gap between the M4-tier and BAR-tier guns.

I run with the philosophy that somebody's wallet should have no bearing on their success in a fight. I always have, and I always will. I have this stance because I worked hard to get good at PKing-- in my time, such handicaps weren't available; and I'm glad they weren't. It made for more competitive game play, and gave us all something to shoot for, and the time we invested in reaching that goal prompted us to play longer. People are less inclined to develop this mentality if they have the easy route of just purchasing a gun to do the work for them. Easy come, easy go.

Unfortunately, I couldn't apply the rule to encourage this mentality because, as I said, the bar (no pun intended) was already set. Changing a gun that people spent bookoo bucks on is pure immoral theft. It would be like a McDonalds employee reaching out to your tray and removing a beef patty and bread layer from a Big Mac after you've already purchased it and saying, "Sorry sir, we should have never done this".

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On this note, I'm seeing Sam get verbally attacked at the Spar Complex with people saying he should have "asked the players."

For at least the past two years, the BAR has been receiving negative input from the players- Sam is addressing two years worth of complaints; and giving the players an opportunity to test the changes before made permanent.

The change isn't even something I'd classify as a "Nerf".
Right now it's basically an 11-damage M4.

For the damage it deals, it should be met with at least a 0.35 reload freeze.
But like I said in my earlier post in this thread, this is a step in the right direction.

Skill Based Game > P2W

Don't end up like this guy:
http://puu.sh/a3Ia1/403860de6f.jpg

Hahahaha the mini gun destroys the bar in the PK! It still takes five shots to kill a player, but before the bars outrageous clip was due to the fact that it win in every match up. I've been pking all morning and not a single bar user has taken me down. Only mini gun people.

The fact that people complain how the BAR is ruining the game since 2012 till now, and look at the results.
They are still complaining, they think it's so easy to balance a gun with numbers. Most complainers are usually the ones who packs(no offense) which made Era into a downhill.

Okay the only reason people get mad is because they got killed by a bar
also if this no more gonna be the best gun in era
A other gun is gonna be it
like gm4,p2k,mattlestorm,shipka
It's better we keep it up with the bar.

I don't understand, I mean look at it.
The BAR's reload is back to normal, now it's 11 damage and 15 clip. Can't people just use those 15 clips to base/PK? Is it that important to have 25 so you can spam all the way at the doors. The reload makes up for everything regarding the clip, that is why Sam did it.

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Originally Posted by Bram

Okay the only reason people get mad is because they got killed by a bar
also if this no more gonna be the best gun in era.

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That's the thing, man.
There isn't supposed to be a best gun. You chose guns based on preference.

Under no circumstance should a gun be determined as "the best" by the general public.
The fact that people believe in such a thing is evident that a nerf is in order.

You pay the extra money on the BAR to give yourself an advantage.
Your purchase is not to achieve victory without putting in the effort to learn to fight.

If you want victory, stop hiding behind your wallet and learn to play.

^^^^!!!!!

Anyways the clip seems like a drastic drop, but the reload is almost non existent. Since the reload is so quick it's almost like having a unlimited bullet wall. I'm conflicted I liked my clip size, but I love the reload speed of the short clip.

Wow. Thanks for ruining a gun i paid rl money for *Clap* dumbest thing ever done.

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Originally Posted by Meph

That's the thing, man.
There isn't supposed to be a best gun. You chose guns based on preference.

Under no circumstance should a gun be determined as "the best" by the general public.
The fact that people believe in such a thing is evident that a nerf is in order.

You pay the extra money on the BAR to give yourself an advantage.
Your purchase is not to achieve victory without putting in the effort to learn to fight.

If you want victory, stop hiding behind your wallet and learn to play.

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Explain why there's such gun called the mini then lol.. All it does is spam. Dead, spam, dead,spam,dead. Wow yeah, that's so much worse than bar so go ahead and nerfthe bar, next time you nerf it, make it 1 dmg. Because its already a piece of junk

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Originally Posted by XSTARX

I don't understand, I mean look at it.
The BAR's reload is back to normal, now it's 11 damage and 15 clip. Can't people just use those 15 clips to base/PK? Is it that important to have 25 so you can spam all the way at the doors. The reload makes up for everything regarding the clip, that is why Sam did it.

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No thanks, 11 dmg, 10 dmg, still the same, 5 bullet shot. Just bring it back. Wow