READ- Weapon Rebalancing

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Originally Posted by Prancer

Name - BAR
Freeze - 0.2
Firerate - 0.3 0.28
Spread - 0.08 0.05
Clip - 20 12
Reload - 0.5
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - N

Willing to give 8 less bullets for faster rof and less spread

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I agree on the fire rate stat here
Though i think you're over doing the spread, 0.065 is a between solution
And if a clip reduction needs to be deducted then 12 is too low, 16 is fine

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Originally Posted by jaxwashere

I don't think it should be refunded personally that doesn't seem realistic. But at the moment it's obviously not worth 200k. So in that case it's reasonable to restore the old stats. Even prior to the nerf if wasn't that great of a weapon. I feel any stat alterations after should be done by a group. Simple things like him removing auto from psg his justification was people are lazy/it's not like that in reality is not coming from someone of reasonable judgment. Some people can only afford one top tier weapon like I said previously. Not me personally but people who have posted on here and people in the game etc.


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Nope. They shouldn't. It's going to upset the fairness of the game.

It's either they add an additional feature like the ability to put the weapon at the back or laser or lights.



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Originally Posted by lyk12345

Nope. They shouldn't. It's going to upset the fairness of the game.

It's either they add an additional feature like the ability to put the weapon at the back or laser or lights.



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That would keep the weapons functionality exactly the same. Your a hypocrite saying not to be judgmental yet calling everyone who doesn't support the nerf losers your opinions not valid.


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Originally Posted by jaxwashere

I don't think it should be refunded personally that doesn't seem realistic. But at the moment it's obviously not worth 200k. So in that case it's reasonable to restore the old stats. Even prior to the nerf if wasn't that great of a weapon. I feel any stat alterations after should be done by a group. Simple things like him removing auto from psg his justification was people are lazy/it's not like that in reality is not coming from someone of reasonable judgment. Some people can only afford one top tier weapon like I said previously. Not me personally but people who have posted on here and people in the game etc.


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And that's where I stop bothering if that's really what you think

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

And that's where I stop bothering if that's really what you think

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Your clearly going to do what you want regardless. Fact of the matter is the gun cost $70 were talking value something you clearly don't understand in proportion to functionality.


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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

You've repeated the same thing on this thread more times than there have been actual compromises made. You don't want another gun admin you want someone biased by iTunes who wouldn't want things nerfed for their own personal sake.
You want 2 gun admin opinions? Well this thread already has them from myself and meph and both of them are on similar wavelengths in that one way or another these rebalances needed to happen and will happen.

It's up to you to have the change that I have provided you to make compromises so you can potentially have some say to lessen its impact

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Sounds good to what? The clip reduction for faster reload?

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Yes faster reload pls

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

And that's where I stop bothering if that's really what you think

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You made a big mistake and you clearly know it, but you can't drop it even though you already lost in the argument. You just couldn't admit to the community what you did was exactly wrong. People like Lyk who couldn't even clearly see the true situation of the matter wouldn't obviously understand.

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Are the board of staffs here in ERA really ok with this? Why don't you ask them honestly what they really think of what you did.

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Originally Posted by lyk12345

Nope. They shouldn't. It's going to upset the fairness of the game.

It's either they add an additional feature like the ability to put the weapon at the back or laser or lights.



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As for you, you shouldn't really meddle with things you don't even understand.

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Originally Posted by Sho Minazuki

You made a big mistake and you clearly know it, but you can't drop it even though you already lost in the argument. You just couldn't admit to the community what you did was exactly wrong. People like Lyk who couldn't even clearly see the true situation of the matter wouldn't obviously understand.

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Are the board of staffs here in ERA really ok with this? Why don't you ask them honestly what they really think of what you did.

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As for you, you shouldn't really meddle with things you don't even understand.

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No I didn't make a mistake and I don't intent to revert it. Want to know other staffs opinions then go actually read through the thread and see what those who posted have said.

You can't critize someone as 'not being able to understand' when you have given no context or backing to prove that you know more than he does.


You paid for your gun your gun you don't want it nerfed. Fair enough but that is not a reason for gameplay to be left untampered when you have a significant balance gap between mid tier and high tier guns. If you can't accept that there was a SIGNIFICANT unfair advantage then it's pointless arguing as you will always stick to that as a way of justifying the price you paid for it. Just because you paid more for a gun doesn't and shouldn't mean that the gun that cost less has a 1/10 chance of winning against it. The gun that costs more should obviously have a SLIGHT advantage but not one that can't be overcome by a more skilled player.
Work with the change or keep complaining and see nothing change.

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

No I didn't make a mistake and I don't intent to revert it. Want to know other staffs opinions then go actually read through the thread and see what those who posted have said.

You can't critize someone as 'not being able to understand' when you have given no context or backing to prove that you know more than he does

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Of course I wouldn't honestly expect that you of all people and the others who supports your idea would even understand the words I am saying. Why don't you go back through the topics that you didn't managed to understand and try to comprehend what the majority really thinks of this justice of yours.

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Originally Posted by Sho Minazuki

Of course I wouldn't honestly expect that you of all people and the others who supports your idea would even understand the words I am saying. Why don't you go back through the topics that you didn't managed to understand and try to comprehend what the majority really thinks of this justice of yours.

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Yet again you have said nothing to prove you know anything. "You don't and will never understand what I am saying" is the biggest cop out excuse for 'I have no real argument but you're still wrong and the reason why you are wrong I don't need to explain because you can't comprehend it'