READ- Weapon Rebalancing

Current best guns m4/metal/pdw/shipka that if u want to buy a good gun stick with those and stay away from bar it's actually weak now i my self when i used eagle i felt its better , i would recommend desert eagle over bar , it has good firerate higher clip and less freeze and better reload and it coasts 6500 for one pair

Anyway this nerfs actually damages the game eco in the first position take an example what happened in graal zone when zone coins got band from trades and then more happened tell the trade turned from crowded place to empty

Maybe from here we should all start giving graal 1 star so when people or anyone check they automatically say this game is trash and they dont try it

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Originally Posted by Beo

Current best guns m4/metal/pdw/shipka that if u want to buy a good gun stick with those and stay away from bar it's actually weak now i my self when i used eagle i felt its better , i would recommend desert eagle over bar , it has good firerate higher clip and less freeze and better reload and it coasts 6500 for one pair

Anyway this nerfs actually damages the game eco in the first position take an example what happened in graal zone when zone coins got band from trades and then more happened tell the trade turned from crowded place to empty

Maybe from here we should all start giving graal 1 star so when people or anyone check they automatically say this game is trash and they dont try it

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Thank you for providing a list of guns for Bitzsam to nerf....

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Originally Posted by moo v

thank you for providing a list of guns for bitzsam to nerf....

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lol ikr

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Originally Posted by Donald

lol ikr

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Originally Posted by Moo V

Thank you for providing a list of guns for Bitzsam to nerf....

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Your welcome the thing u might not seeing if every single gun got a nerf and become worse then there is a chance bar become the best again.


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Originally Posted by Moo V

But then again, those people AFKing or RPing does not know or are aware of this change. Plus even with these changes what can they do? M16 vs BAR? No.
They can do nothing.
They are aware that even with this "nerf" that high tier guns are still high tier and if they want to compete, they'll have to fight Fire with Fire thus bring back the: Need better job payment or more unique jobs.
Also Bitzsam, most people who AFK or RP is what they choose to do, they find it more entertaining than to just go rambo and kill everyone. Theres a variety of gangs in this game that serves the purpose like:
- Basing Gangs: proves whos the strongest
- Spar Gangs: proves whos the most skillful
- Mafia Gangs: proves whos more dominate
- Pk Gangs: proves whos more determined
- Trade Gangs: proves whos the richest
- RP Gangs: proves....well...most social (?)

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Well said

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

As stated 3 times to people suggesting the same thing, i'm not reincreasing the firerate. See the response I gave them for the reason why

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This should be my final suggestion, well make the freeze low and reduction of 3-4 clips which is total of 11-12 clips as my previous one...

i want to see every gun be nerf tbh


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Originally Posted by Donald

Yes we won't get a refund. No one bashing or insulting anyone. We don't like the changes. & we don't feel like playing the game anymore.
We feel like the game is going in the wrong direction.
The purpose of the nerf is to ''balance the game so it leads to more players basing, pking & sparring'', that sounds great but how are things really panning out? If the changes did not make things more enticing to new players & players that WANT to base will still go to the best guns. Then whats the purpose of this change other than forcing existing players to adapt? Wouldn't such changes be redundant if it failed to fulfil its objective. Whats the point of the gun suggestions, if its not gonna make things more enticing to new players?
If it doesn't fulfil its purpose why go on with these changes?
If you disagree with me then show me the results, show me the new players don't just say its make the game more balance blah blah blah, show me the results, show me & prove me wrong because I sure as hell want to see these so called ''more players' basing.

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You can see multiple people in this thread bashing Sam for the nerfs. I already mentioned I'm not a fan of the nerfs myself but it is what it is. You guys need to expect this in an online PvP game as nerfs and buffs hit these types of games all the time. It can be a huge outlash with people wanting their money back but it doesn't happen. In any online game (make it be a MMORPG or let's say a F/TPS), the guns, classes, skills, etc..are all subject to change even if you spend money or not. It was way too late to put in these nerfs I agree, but what happened has happened.

The game is all about guns now before its all about skills thanks to sam


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Originally Posted by Xur

I'm not trying to be biased, I never really used bar I just knew that the 10 damage was a pain to fight against in spar as it's 5 shot vs 6 shot.

And I think you have the wrong person, cause I have 249k kills and have had P2ks for like 2 years.

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Thanks to you that you told bitzsam to nerf the Cripple Cannon, I cannot save for it anymore.........YOU STUPID


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