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If you could choose one or two bases which you think needs a remodel or renovation, which one(s) would it be? Please voice your opinions below, as well as provide a reason why these bases should be remodeled. Based on the feedback below, I will choose one or two to work on in the coming days. Thanks. ;)
Coop
Bases without two entrances into the flag room need it. These include Mafia, GZ, and PZ. Even though the traps were recently nerfed, two or more people can still sit on either side of the trap and just spam their melee. This is easily remedied with two entrances. Since you are only choosing two bases, I'd say Gz and Pz.
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Mafia:
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Gangster:
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PZ:
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There are other problems but I'll let other people take it away :)
Emines needs a bigger area IN the actual base where flag is.
It's too cramp and easily camp there with gases and explosives.
Do not touch GZ. The only base in need of changing is bbz. Look for the thread asking for it to be returned to it old layout. It was voted at something like 80 said change it to the old look and about 7 said keep it.
Don't fix what isn't broken, basing was almost ruined by the last round of base changes. Especially GZ, do no touch GZ in any way shape or form.
Emines, Mafia, and PZ. The reason for Emines is because the area is just too narrow plus I don't know but for some reason the graphics of it aren't bad but I just don't like the way it looks. My reasons for mafia is because the two doors into the flag room is only one door wide enough for a lagger/immortal lagger can block one door and reporting them takes too long for admins to even deal with that player I suggest 2 doors wide. My reasons for pz well of course you know navy trap spamming, blocking doors while spamming bar, immortal laggers/laggers. I couldn't care less about Gz tachi BBZ Bh and lethal as you can see it's fine as it is. Although lethal does need a little remodeling possibly making that base much bigger? I mean really it's chaotic 24/7 plus making that base much bigger would get gangs to actually hold lethal plus when fort killers is on lethal is the worst place it could be at. Door spamming (1 door first room and another door above it) and that ladder can really get annoying.
I'll agree bbz needs to be returned to its old layout. The new one only encourages rushing to the flag itself.
Gz is just fine as it is, it has been changed before and the players didn't like it either.
If I had to pick, lethal would be an interesting renovation. There is one way directly to flag, how about a third entrance that leads directly to the door of the flag room on the side of lethal? A bigger version of it would be nice.
For lethal a third door could be interesting but the size is perfect. It is a good base if you want spam kills and serves its purpose. We have the long drawn out bases like GZ so we also need the small and compact spam fest base.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ventus
They better not change anything about mafia
Sticking this since it involves server changes and voting.
I'd say Lethal and mafia (:.
Can I pick the same base twice? Because.....
BBZ
The whole flag rushing bs inside BBZ is getting old. The old base was way better with only two hallways. We already have a thread that wants BBZ remodeled back to the old way it was. 80+ people want it back.
Omg BBZ!!!!!!! Long overdo I made a thread about changing it many months ago and has like 80-5 poll result.....
We have enough flag rushing bases let's get bases that are harder to take and promote some skill
Also pz all it takes is 2 noobs to block the entrances especially when there are Fort killers. make it bigger and fix the flag so I can shoot at it and it takes dmg.
I agree, I feel a third door would attract more player in perspective that they wouldn't have people camping and spraying the quickest entrance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Greg
Hello as most of you know I am banshee, And I am an active baser over the years new bases have come out we were all so happy when emines was released for the first time horrrah hoorah. But on to the point emines is way to small the rooms are perfect but its like lethal the base needs to be longer cause people can easily respawn and defend again hence it a rushing base or rec everyone you see kind of base. That is why I liked the previous emines because it was fun and long and hard to hold but enjoying. Now I barely go there since malestroms 50 noobs in like 5 allies hold it and come back every second. So coop if you could make more rooms between the entrance and the flag room like old guerre zone that would be nice thanks.
Fix both GZ's
Don't you dare touch gz, it's perfect I would know because my gang holds it 90% of the time
BH needs more room in flag 0:
Exactly.
Make it easier to take from Ifreeze.
Guerre was fine the way it was :P now maelstrom is the Ifreeze of guerre.
Btw, will coops town feature basing?!
PerfectoQuote:
Originally Posted by Iceman
I prefer the 50's style of Mafia so I wouldn't lay a hand on it.
I would say change Lethal and BBZ
Bbz and bh both need to be changed they're way too rusher friendly...
pz too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Harper
Pz is a for sure yes! The doors are to small, they are easy to block, and I feel there are to many doors.
Bbz should be brought back to the old way as it was much better. If snk doesn't like the old version, I did make a compromise that mixes them both. See pics:Attachment 7729
This way you have the hallways to shoot down. If they were any longer, with the hit timer gone, it's gonna be impossible to take. Keep in mind, the last time we had the old bbz, there was no hit timer. The base was already hard enough to take with the hit timer and imagine trying to fight down a long hallway with no hit timer would suck.
Lethal seems fine to me. It's a rusher friendly base but then again there are multiple ways to stop the rushing
The guerre zone base is kind of lame. The old one was one Of the best bases and it was changed out of no where. The look of it and the lay out both don't look good. It kind of reminds me of something from zone.
Pz isn't very rusher friendly imo it has some decent choke points whereas bh and bbz have like one choke point which is a double door on both sides of the flag and these doors are not good enough of a choke point for preventing rushing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grandpa Illusions
That mixed layout would be horrible in a way. Bar spammers and PBP spammers would kill that whole base. It would make it too difficult for enemy gangs to take it and it would make the gang controlling it it easier to control it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAW Zephlyn
Coops you know what would make basing more of skill rahter than spam is having barriers that people cant shoot through horizontally below or above vertical lanes, or just make more obstacles so spam wouldnt be such a great problem.
How would it be terrible? Many people are suggesting to bring back the old bbz. If you don't like the hallways in this design you obviously have never seen the old bbz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirito
@banshee you should show us some pics...kind of confusing
Bbz and bh consist of nothing but rushing, bbz was much better with the 2 hallways. Bh I've just never liked. Also pz is just the most annoying thing created on this game imo but i know a lot of gangs like it and I never base there so I don't really care if it's changed or not.
Wth change Blackholst back to where it was one door!
and when I mean one door I mean back to the old, old version. Like, the first version. Don't make me pull up some Era iPhone nostalgia, something I suffer from everyday.
I'd seriously vote BBZ back to the old layout but with different tiles. I find it takes skill and not just rushing with the old layout. Would be great <3
ill just want the old bzz back !
The old bbz with no hit timer would just be stupid.
Bh seems perfectly fine to me.
Pz is terrible, needs changed.
I agree my top picks for changing bases are:
1.Bbz
2.Pz
3.BH
bbz and pz, k?
Don't say things without knowing it yourself. I'm an old time player from '11 and still play. the old BBZ layout is much different compared to the layout you made which is much too simple. The old BBZ layout had two hall ways left hallway turned all the way to the top then right and down into the flag same thing with the right hallway but opposite. Now you wanna say I haven't seen the old BBZ layout? It was 10x better than the present layout and 15x better than the layout you made. no offense just stating the truth you are thinking one sided more about almost impenetrable base rather than a balanced out base. I've been a baser my whole Graalian life and not once have I seen this base this bad(present layout). Stating this with the upmost respect and mature manner.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAW Zephlyn
Sorry but the old BBZ layout with no Hit timer is better than the layout you made with no hit timer.Quote:
Originally Posted by BAW Zephlyn
instead of remodeling why not make a new base in the middle of the water.. call it splash town BAHAHAHA
Lol;) don't cry...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirito
You can't just say it's "better." What makes it better and what are advantages and disadvantages. I stated the advantages and disadvantages in my post and you simply said no old one was better. That's your argument. You need facts and proof to back it up. It's better for the gang holding the base obviously because they can spam 2 people down the halls and with no hit timer nobody will ever be able to reach the end of the hall. It would take like 3-5 seconds to get to the end Of the hall, then round the corner and enter flag room will take another 4. And it takes 2-3 seconds to kill someone. How is that "better"?
My mind was just blown...arguably the best idea I've heard in a while...:0Quote:
Originally Posted by Keef