Weapon buff and nerf list

Okay, so after a while of trying out guns, I realized that some guns really do need a buff or nerf. This is just my opinion on how I, and others use them (pking, sparring). NOTE: I don't have some of these guns, so several of these weapons are things I hear from other players.

Buff list

K180: I personally think this gun is decent, but needs a buff. First, the damage is pretty low, (6 damage). The speed is decent, so I'm fine with that. Conclusion: I think this gun only needs a buff in damage, instead of being six damage, it should be seven, (eight perfect). Aside from that, i think it's a decent gun.

M4: The only buff I think it needs is its speed. It seems kind of slow. Not much else to say. Conclusion: I think speed should be slightly faster.

L69A1 Sniper: I don't have this gun, but after hearing what people have to say about it, it's pretty clear why I don't have it. From hearing more than ten people talk about this sniper, I hear it's a total waste of money. Fortunately it's only 10k (I think. Sorry if I'm incorrect). Has a clip size of 5. Deals 9 damage, with makes up for it I guess. Low rate of fire (compared to other snipers at least) I've been hearing that this gun got a buff, but if it didn't, then it really needs one. Conclusion: This gun really needs a buff, larger clip size (or atleast lower damage to 8 if you are going to higher clip size). Buff the RoF.



Nerf list

PBP Shotgun: I just bought this gun, and it's damage is insane. But it just feels unfair to use due to its high damage and monstrous spread. I like this gun, and i wouldn't really mind if this got nerfed or not, but this is complaints I hear from players. Conclusion: I think the damage should be lowered. But either way I still
like this gun.

Ghost M4: I don't have this gun, but the only complaint I hear is the price, 187k. This seems like a good gun, seeing people use it, and seems deadly in pking situations. Conclusion: I know the price can't be lowered since people already bought it, but I think it should have been lowered.

I'm not finished yet, this will be updated soon.
(Sorry for the long thread)

No need
those guns r op cause of the price ,

M4 is 55000 so it means it's decent with the way it is now

Close threat lol

PBP has already been nerfed several times.

Pbp and librarien

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Originally Posted by Tricky

PBP has already been nerfed several times.

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This.
Stop trying to make guns that cost a high price to be nerf more.
Pbp used to deal 8 damage per shot and stack, now it's 4 damage each bullet and you want to nerf on it?
It's just outrageous to see players who don't have the gun to be nerfed.

I love the pbp the way it is, they changed it so many times as I can recall. Just keep it the same :)

Some guns have been nerfed way to much like the pbp leave it alone already

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Originally Posted by XSTARX

This.
Stop trying to make guns that cost a high price to be nerf more.
Pbp used to deal 8 damage per shot and stack, now it's 4 damage each bullet and you want to nerf on it?
It's just outrageous to see players who don't have the gun to be nerfed.

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Originally it was 8damage and didnt stack.... Stacked damage is broken and all guns should be reverted back to the way they were before it was introduced.

PBP is too op

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Originally Posted by XSTARX

This.
Stop trying to make guns that cost a high price to be nerf more.
Pbp used to deal 8 damage per shot and stack, now it's 4 damage each bullet and you want to nerf on it?
It's just outrageous to see players who don't have the gun to be nerfed.

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We want a buff of 8 damage, and to stop being stacked

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Originally Posted by XSTARX

This.
Stop trying to make guns that cost a high price to be nerf more.
Pbp used to deal 8 damage per shot and stack, now it's 4 damage each bullet and you want to nerf on it?
It's just outrageous to see players who don't have the gun to be nerfed.

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We want a buff of 8 damage, and to stop being stacked
Edit: The freeze is very bad, thats an disadvantage

Leave it at what it is the pbp has been nerfed way to many times already

pbp has been nerved so many times and at 125k i think it should never of been

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Originally Posted by Alan Harper

Originally it was 8damage and didnt stack.... Stacked damage is broken and all guns should be reverted back to the way they were before it was introduced.

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Didn't actually own the Pbp so that's what I assume of it in the past where players kept rushing at me.

To all those who are saying pbp has been nerfed too many times it hasn't, when it was originally released it was 8 damage, no stack, bigger clip, less freeze. It should be reverted back to those stats, then it would be worth the price that it is and wouldn't be OP. Ik someone's going to say it's 125k and that, that means it should be OP but no gun should be OP, every gun should be balanced according to price. Stacked damage was a terrible idea which never should've been implemented, it's broken and cannot be fixed. It is broken for three reasons; it damages spawning people (unless they've fixed that which I highly doubt they have), it defies the hit timer (in areas where this still applies), and it cannot be balanced (it has been nerfed severely since it's originally god gun stats and is still OP and a further nerf would make it underpowered). Keep in mind that reverting it back to it's original stats isn't really a nerf it's a total change in the way the gun functions. I don't expect it to be changed back because no ga has the guts to do so even though they've brought it up in the past and the majority of players wanted it reverted back. That's all I have to say about the pbp /endrant.

I agree with the ghost being nerfed, but the ksg can stay because it is too traditional in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Alan Harper

no gun should be OP, every gun should be balanced according to price.

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Tell that to iceman who seems to be the only person not understanding this concept

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Anyway no, none of those changes will be made.
K180 is already an extremely over powered gun for it's price and is highly underused/underestimated, same with the five sevens, even 1 more damage would be ridiculous.
M4, no its firerate is fine making it higher would make sten useless, the m4 addon was buffed anyway
L96 was buffed ahwile ago and had its firerate doubled

Pbp doesn't seem to be causing as much trouble now so that probably won't be changed, i don't see as many pbp users as i used to which is a good thing.
Ghost m4- you can't lower the price once it's been sold, rec sold it for 187k since g187 made the shop, it was still good before but was buffed anyway making it more than worth the price

Where do you buy the gm4

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Originally Posted by Xadis

Where do you buy the gm4

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187 Guns right of tachi south of gangster zone

The only weapons I see that need a buff are the limited edition ones (Kar98, and Egg Launcher). Yet they won't be used often by other players. Outside of those weapons, minigun vs bar is still questionable. Minigun has been getting lots of changes during the week of it's release, so it wasn't as clear to decide whether the BAR clearly overshadows the minigun or if both weapons are balanced.

K180 is designed to be either an extremely agile weapon or a super spammy weapon. Holding 1 k180 grants you nearly no freeze rate upon firing. With possibly the lowest freeze rate in the game, making you very speedy in combat. Dual k180 is where you can unleash bullet storm among your enemies. While still relatively low clip size for a spam gun, this weapon makes an excellent finisher when walling in enemies. Great for most situations except for overworld pking.

L96A1 used to be one of the worst weapons for it's price. That has been changed now. Being an excellent weapon for it's price. Favored for basing and pking, with the slightly above average freeze rate, you can spam 10 damage shots on your enemy that don't expect you. While the Taurus is cheaper and has practically the same rate of fire and higher damage, the L96 lower freeze rate with good fire rate can allow you to adapt to most situations with a heavy hitting gun. An excellent 10 damage gun that can be accessed early. Use this weapon in corridors and hallways or attack players at a distance when pking.

M4 has remained as one of the most balanced weapons in era through the generations, since early era. Slowly losing it's popularity over the years, M4 remains as a solid choice as an all around weapon. Average spread, average freeze rate, good fire rate, good damage and decent reload and clip size. It hard to outline what stands out the most for the M4, but it's a great weapon in spar, good in basing and quite decent in pking. As a personal opinion, this M4 is like an upgrade from the Glock. If you liked using Glock, the M4 shouldn't make much of a difference. With that said, M4 is still used by era players both new and veterans alike.

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Originally Posted by Tricky

PBP has already been nerfed several times.

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I was unaware of that.