ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq & Syria)

Okay, so for those that don't know who/what ISIS is, it is a terrorist group that is in Iraq and Syria right now. They are a threat to the US and apparently have some American citizens captured (from a couple years back) & threaten to raise the flag of Allah in the White House. All in all, they swore to kill any American citizen alive.

I'm bringing this topic to Era-Go because I've been reading a whole lot of crap about them on social media for the past month.
The only reason I believe they are getting so much attention than any other terrorist group is the fact that they use social media as a weapon to scare others.
If you don't know what this means then just search about ISIS. I won't be posting any links about it because there are some disturbing videos out there that ISIS posted for the whole world to see. (Beheadings for example.)

There are many videos of them killing innocent civilians in Iraq and posting it on social media to scare us (our target), quoting what one ISIS Militant said,

"Don't send your drones, your airstrikes, anything. Send your soldiers on foot and we will show you how we, ISIS, behead them too."

Honestly, my opinion, they have no idea what they're going against. I have lived beside the US Army all of my life and I will tell you that they are some highly trained troops we have to serve us.
I recently found an article (also has a non disturbing video) from an American veteran that basically sent a message from the US to ISIS. The article is here.

I haven't typed everything what I wanted to because I'm very ticked off but please, share your opinions. If you have no idea at all then look it up, you'll find thousands of articles. CNN is also a good source to look at.

Pretty disturbing

The US might have highly trained troops but they would still be at a disadvantage in open conflict. Look at previous examples, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. It is very difficult to fight an enemy that blends in with civilians and that knows the landscape.
IS/ISIS/ISIL (or whatever they are called these days) are a big threat because of their rapid growth and their ability to attract vast amounts of recruits worldwide. They also have a good economic base by controlling oil fields and such so they can afford to continue operating and causing devastation.
They are also extremely brutal as shown by mass executions of their opponents and the shocking execution of that journalist Foley. The West however has got a difficult decision to make now because they are threatening to execute another journalist unless all airstrikes and such are stopped. Do they attempt to call their bluff or give into demands. I hate to say it but I feel the days are numbered for the other journalist.

American soldiers havnt been trained better then the uk military

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Originally Posted by C00KI3M0NST3R

American soldiers havnt been trained better then the uk military

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Maybe not but they have more soldiers than we have.

That implies nothing thats just showing that they are much easier to kill

America still has area 51 up it's sleeve as a wild card. Don't know what sort of cyber aleonotic weapons it has.

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Originally Posted by C00KI3M0NST3R

That implies nothing thats just showing that they are much easier to kill

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Not really. They are still highly competent soldiers and they are more likely to get involved in an escalations whereas UK forces are extremely unlikely to have boots on the ground and restrict operations to air strikes and air reconnaissance.

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Originally Posted by Ace

America still has area 51 up it's sleeve as a wild card. Don't know what sort of cyber aleonotic weapons it has.

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ISIS has around 31,000 militants while as the US has 1.3 million. USA stands the 2nd largest army (China has a little more than 2 million) so of course we outnumber them greatly. As well as the other 1 million veterans that are on our home soil.

Our technology is much higher than ISIS has. However, they control the oil in Iraq which means they are greatly funded.

The US also has the best trained Elite Special forces. These are the special little groups that assassinated Osama Bin Laden when he was hiding in his little apartment.
Our weapon intelligence is also higher than ISIS' (from what we know.)

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Originally Posted by Lord Greg

Not really. They are still highly competent soldiers and they are more likely to get involved in an escalations whereas UK forces are extremely unlikely to have boots on the ground and restrict operations to air strikes and air reconnaissance.

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Yes but sometimes they dont need to

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Originally Posted by ShizGodsu

ISIS has around 31,000 militants while as the US has 1.3 million. USA stands the 2nd largest army (China has a little more than 2 million) so of course we outnumber them greatly. As well as the other 1 million veterans that are on our home soil.

Our technology is much higher than ISIS has. However, they control the oil in Iraq which means they are greatly funded.

The US also has the best trained Elite Special forces. These are the special little groups that assassinated Osama Bin Laden when he was hiding in his little apartment.
Our weapon intelligence is also higher than ISIS' (from what we know.)

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I beg to differ here. No special forces are better than the SAS. They are the best of the best.

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Originally Posted by Lord Greg

The US might have highly trained troops but they would still be at a disadvantage in open conflict. Look at previous examples, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. It is very difficult to fight an enemy that blends in with civilians and that knows the landscape.
IS/ISIS/ISIL (or whatever they are called these days) are a big threat because of their rapid growth and their ability to attract vast amounts of recruits worldwide. They also have a good economic base by controlling oil fields and such so they can afford to continue operating and causing devastation.
They are also extremely brutal as shown by mass executions of their opponents and the shocking execution of that journalist Foley. The West however has got a difficult decision to make now because they are threatening to execute another journalist unless all airstrikes and such are stopped. Do they attempt to call their bluff or give into demands. I hate to say it but I feel the days are numbered for the other journalist.

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The US took over Iraq in less than a month. That's the entire country. This shows how well trained and organized we can handle war against someone else. There are also other countries where we went in, filled the mission, and left in under four days.

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Originally Posted by Lord Greg

I beg to differ here. No special forces are better than the SAS. They are the best of the best.

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SAS also joined US forces to hunt down ISIS militants. Some comparing the two doesn't do much since they're one temporarily.
Link.

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Originally Posted by ShizGodsu

The US took over Iraq in less than a month. That's the entire country. This shows how well trained and organized we can handle war against someone else. There are also other countries where we went in, filled the mission, and left in under four days.

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SAS also joined US forces to hunt down ISIS militants. Some comparing the two doesn't do much since they're one temporarily.

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Taking control is one thing but maintaining order against plain clothes terrorists is much harder and the US operations in Iraq clearly did not fully achieve their goals.

That's true enough, they are also based on basically the same ideas and training.

Also another link on the SAS here.

I seriously hope they get this guy.

Another thing I read up is that ISIS could be trying to get together with the Mexican Cartels and enter the US through the (weak) southern border.
Link.

Nuke them all.

I think that britains military works best with the us

US are ignorant fools to try and stick their head in. Pretty much like putting your finger in a fire then waving it about trying to put the fire out. I say you need to mind your own business and if they try to interfere with your country then do something.

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Originally Posted by crd

US are ignorant fools to try and stick their head in. Pretty much like putting your finger in a fire then waving it about trying to put the fire out. I say you need to mind your own business and if they try to interfere with your country then do something.

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ISIS do interfere. Letting a terrorist state exist is just asking for trouble. The problem is that people always say things like don't get involved and don't send in the troops but then something happens like a massacre or something and everyone starts saying why did no one do anything beforehand.

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Originally Posted by crd

US are ignorant fools to try and stick their head in. Pretty much like putting your finger in a fire then waving it about trying to put the fire out. I say you need to mind your own business and if they try to interfere with your country then do something.

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You don't let the bad people do whatever they want. Obviously no other country will get involved so the USA gets involved instead. If you let terrorists just sit there killing innocent people and continuously build themselves then eventually they will go for world power.

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Originally Posted by ShizGodsu

You don't let the bad people do whatever they want. Obviously no other country will get involved so the USA gets involved instead. If you let terrorists just sit there killing innocent people and continuously build themselves then eventually they will go for world power.

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This is exactly what ISIS wants, it's obviously a plan for other people to get involved with this rubbish, like one of those really badly plotted movies when the bad guy traps a loved one and uses them as bait for the super hero to come and try to save them.

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Originally Posted by crd

This is exactly what ISIS wants, it's obviously a plan for other people to get involved with this rubbish, like one of those really badly plotted movies when the bad guy traps a loved one and uses them as bait for the super hero to come and try to save them.

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Exactly. ISIS is killing innocent people to draw the US in. It's happened before and look what happen - we won.

I'm not sure how you can formulate a fair opinion on the situation when you're hearing from only the US' side. Now i'm no expert on the situation in Syria as it is one of the more messier civil wars but perhaps you lot should look at some non-biased sources if you're going to wave around your patriotic opinions.
Perhaps the best thing is to do nothing? The US has little international support, especially through the UN as every proposed resolution to the Syria conflict is vetoed by Russia and China. So maybe it's better that the US sorts their own issues out (especially financially) before spending time, peoples lives and money in a war which whatever the outcome, they will always lose.

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Originally Posted by LavaClaw

I'm not sure how you can formulate a fair opinion on the situation when you're hearing from only the US' side. Now i'm no expert on the situation in Syria as it is one of the more messier civil wars but perhaps you lot should look at some non-biased sources if you're going to wave around your patriotic opinions.
Perhaps the best thing is to do nothing? The US has little international support, especially through the UN as every proposed resolution to the Syria conflict is vetoed by Russia and China. So maybe it's better that the US sorts their own issues out (especially financially) before spending time, peoples lives and money in a war which whatever the outcome, they will always lose.

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i am with you lava