Whats The Deal With Panda Hammer?

Why isn't panda hammer tradable anymore. It's one of the coolest supers in game, and it maintains a rather bulky price in one's inventory as is. With this update, traders that have spent their money en masse for their panda hammer won't be able to sell it back if they don't feel the need to keep it.
Traders are just as good players as sparrers or pkers. The only difference about us is that we have to adapt to many different strategies to gain profit. If PRs feel the need to disrespect us with such a bold move, why not remove 10k kills or 2k spars from every player too? it'd only be fair.
I speak on behalf of many when I say that Era's economy (you know what I mean), is fragile and staff cannot just tamper with it as they please, because you could severely setback many players.
This thread was started for two reasons:
1: The other traders are here to send panda hammer support. sort of as a petition. PROJECT BRING BACK PANDA HAMMER!
2: Why do PRs need to be so sketchy about this whole ordeal. I'm a working man, just as much as you are, and that gives me the right to be treated equally. We are not pawns that you can maneuver as you see fit because you don't like a certain aspect of the game. Traders have a voice, and i'm sick of the blatant disrespect handed to us by the community. Not just by the gesture via our panda hammers, but by the fact that other players in the community and on forums think that it means nothing to be a trader when it is just as tasking, if not more tasking to trade than it is to fire an overpowered gun repeatedly. In essence, I would be less annoyed if I staff chose to inform the era populace of the change to panda hammer and the reasons why. If there were an issue with spars, or kills, everyone would be notified ASAP. The fact that this is not true about panda hammer shows how staff truly seems to neglect traders in general and it is the main cause of this thread.
All due respect, iPlayer....

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Originally Posted by iPlayer

If PRs feel the need to disrespect us with such a bold move, why not remove 10k kills or 2k spars from every player too? it'd only be fair.

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Lol making an item untradeable is not the same as taking 10k kills or 2k spars from someone. They may have a reason for it, I am surprised that something that was tradeable was disabled.

The only reason I say it's not the same is because they aren't taking it away from you, it just is no longer tradeable. Temporary or not.

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Originally Posted by Mystic

Lol making an item untradeable is not the same as taking 10k kills or 2k spars from someone. They may have a reason for it, I am surprised that something that was tradeable was disabled.

The only reason I say it's not the same is because they aren't taking it away from you, it just is no longer tradeable. Temporary or not.

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Items are our stock, because holding shells like that is just plain pointless. We'd like to be able to play the game as was intended. If staff started tables and we built a function around it, thats our problem. Not theirs to poke and prod. Same concept as losing 85000 shells. Because thats what a panda hammer was worth. thats over a 100x what a noob would say he was scammed from....

To start off with: what actually happened to Panda Hammer other than being un-tradable?

Traders don't really fit into the game when it first started, back then only a few items were considered 'rare'.
Now with more items being auctioned I don't see the need to trade at all. What's with the ridiculously high pricing of an item that's called a 'Super'? What's with the unfair economy of trading now and then?
Everywhere I go I'll see the same few traders asking for shells for their redundant materials just to boost their self-esteem.

Disappointing, scammers were already a virus that can spread onto one another easily.
You can even find noobs trying to scam you. It's downright failure if you ask me.
I even find that the Trade Table's section of Era-go is useless since not everybody is active here and those who are traders don't use this forum as much as others do.

I've seen countless of threads relating to 'Trading Chaplain' etc and none of them has a good reply by somebody who actually wants to trade. It's easier to go into the game and ask whether anybody wants to trade-to-trade items than using forum.
The game is already ruined since 2013 where most worse-scenarios appeared out of nowhere to ruin the gameplay.
Only the most favored-by-players will be noticed by most staffs as their used every single day. Trade Tables are so much different as there will be scammers everywhere trying to cheat you or that members making same old 'I GOT SCAMMED' threads even when using Tables.

People have become delinquent just because they abide the trading economy.

I agree ...make panda hammer tradable again

I wish Era never had tradeable items.

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Originally Posted by XSTARX

To start off with: what actually happened to Panda Hammer other than being un-tradable?

Traders don't really fit into the game when it first started, back then only a few items were considered 'rare'.
Now with more items being auctioned I don't see the need to trade at all. What's with the ridiculously high pricing of an item that's called a 'Super'? What's with the unfair economy of trading now and then?
Everywhere I go I'll see the same few traders asking for shells for their redundant materials just to boost their self-esteem.

Disappointing, scammers were already a virus that can spread onto one another easily.
You can even find noobs trying to scam you. It's downright failure if you ask me.
I even find that the Trade Table's section of Era-go is useless since not everybody is active here and those who are traders don't use this forum as much as others do.

I've seen countless of threads relating to 'Trading Chaplain' etc and none of them has a good reply by somebody who actually wants to trade. It's easier to go into the game and ask whether anybody wants to trade-to-trade items than using forum.
The game is already ruined since 2013 where most worse-scenarios appeared out of nowhere to ruin the gameplay.
Only the most favored-by-players will be noticed by most staffs as their used every single day. Trade Tables are so much different as there will be scammers everywhere trying to cheat you or that members making same old 'I GOT SCAMMED' threads even when using Tables.

People have become delinquent just because they abide the trading economy.

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Speaking in proportionate terms, nothing is ridiculously high priced, because once you have an item that you traded around for that maintains a value, you can buy another item of that same value, no digging necessary. Or you can buy another slightly higher item if the player pays more than is normal. People should pay as much as they want for an item they want? In essence they are, but nobody will sell it to them if they pay nothing. SO said player learns, and approaches strategy. Trading here is not necessarily being a delinquent or a scammer, its about being thrown into a server with a few thousand players and seeing if you have the ability to strategize and come out on top in MANY random situations. As for the fact that i'm a delinquent? Maybe your observations on trading are too blunt to actually suffice. Walk the walk, talk the talk.

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Bcz I made alot of gfx for free and alot of help when player asked me question.

Well, I say before you assume they disabled panda hammer from being tradeable just to spite traders, either ask them or wait for them to respond here.

And please don't say "not your thread". If it's posted where anyone can access it, they deserve the right to give their opinions.

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Originally Posted by Katsu!

Yes I don't have the money for have one but my dream to have 7,5k shells for can buy my customs^^ but there no fking generous Rich.. Anyone on this game are cheap if someone can prove me its false he will have to give me what I want then he will be the first one to make me a liar.

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I don't need you here, if you're just going to beg. Make a valid point or leave. I'm not here for you to sit and beg when 1: you don't dig. 2: you expect revenue handed to you on a platter.

Okay Kid I'm here for teach you a leason I'm not a digger I did alot for this game time to get back!!

people trying to buy stun gun with one crappy panda hammer sickens me, so i welcome this update

Trading was always a bad thing.
Why was it even made in the very first place? Look how much iEra is being corrupted by that stupid economy of theirs.
Traders will always act as if they're gods and that they have items which others don't. All I can say to them is get some modern experience about the game's true history and not the items that are newly released.

*edited out* i'm not here to offend.

Well it used to be just for gifting, then it turned to drop trading, scamming, trade tables, and then more scamming. The only reason I don't trade is because whatever people are selling isn't worth the price in my eyes, otherwise I would try to get some new items.

Anyways, I hope a staff member lets you guys know why the sudden change.

Understand that i'm not here to offend, just to state a valid point. Because a player can obtain profits in a trade, He is considered worthless scum? a scammer? delinquent? Thats how every post on here makes me feel. I'm always providing tips to players that ask....

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Originally Posted by iPlayer

Understand that i'm not here to offend, just to state a valid point. Because a player can obtain profits in a trade, He is considered worthless scum? a scammer? delinquent? Thats how every post on here makes me feel. I'm always providing tips to players that ask....

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I'm not saying every trader scams, but because there is a different view of prices that each player has, they might feel like they're getting scammed out of the payment they feel they should get for the item. Some traders are there most of their gameplay, and some are there to trade once and come back days later to trade again.

I still don't think they did this to spite you guys though :p

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Originally Posted by Mystic

Well, I say before you assume they disabled panda hammer from being tradeable just to spite traders, either ask them or wait for them to respond here.

And please don't say "not your thread". If it's posted where anyone can access it, they deserve the right to give their opinions.

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I'm just annoyed that after contacting countless prs, including asking a pr to ask other prs himself, I was told that I wasn't allowed to know. It is unfair. This thread was started to determine why it was changed. I don't feel the necessity of sitting around waiting to be informed when there are many members of the trade community deeply annoyed. If there is a change we should have the right to know ASAP and why. It was our decision to buy this item therefore we deserve the rights to know the proceedings of said item.

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Originally Posted by ciel

people trying to buy stun gun with one crappy panda hammer sickens me, so i welcome this update

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You do realize, that i'm talking about the other panda hammer? Not the freebie one...

Okay I hate trade me too also before it was free to trade and to get a legit trader reputation was the only way to trade.

Well this is sad... I was planning on digging for one.

Attachment 13127 here we got image on which u see that 'some' people disliked ur change in trading of panda hammer. Also i disliked lag witt sign and no-giving-back items that lost by this glitch. Many players dislike our present graal. Maybe u will do something with this admins? I mean maybe u will stop ruining era? Or something like that?

huh?

Dislike our present Graal?
Sure, let's all go back to the normal days of iEra where scamming was 100% legal and easy to get rip off.
Bases being fun to raid with the old layout, no EC uploads, old events and many old buildings.

Really? Is that all traders really hate? All I see from the pic and this thread is relating to trading only.
If you've been hacked and have a good evidence then your items will be retrieved.
The economy already sucks, it doesn't need to be more suckish in my perspective.
And to your "My items got stolen by Tables glitch" won't be returning to your inventory. Because there's no reasons why it should be given back.

Not much evidence given, no witnesses, bystanders weren't there.
You claimed you was lagging while doing the trade, then you said you weren't lagging.
There isn't a clear statement given off by you.

It's just one item that's not tradable, I believe the admins have a good reason why it was disabled(Only Devs/SPRs can command that).
Be glad not every melee is tradable otherwise this game is ruined from the ghetto.

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Originally Posted by XSTARX

And to your "My items got stolen by Tables glitch" won't be returning to your inventory. Because there's no reasons why it should be given back.

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Well in his defence i think they should be given back because
He went out of his way to dig that long and when he traded the shells for an item that was glitched without any warning. In my opinion i think he should get every shell back

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Originally Posted by Capelett

Well in his defence i think they should be given back because
He went out of his way to dig that long and when he traded the shells for an item that was glitched without any warning. In my opinion i think he should get every shell back

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Frankly saying, the admins already responded with a definite 'No' to his request of getting his items back.

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Originally Posted by Mystic

I wish Era never had tradeable items.

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Mystic! Watch that mouth of yours! Lmao.

Trading is 1/3s of eras population interest. So its better if you dont like it because people would be doing PK and spar more if not.

Hello? Is staff going to ignore both my threads? What the heck is this? Am I just going to sit here clueless forever? Get to work for once, staff.

I'd give my damn pbp for panda hammer. They need to make it tradeable again.

Panda hammer should now be tradable again.

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Originally Posted by Ren

Panda hammer should now be tradable again.

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yus

i think if items come out admins must not change stats because some one wanted to trade it or he liked stats that was so maybe you should firstly test weapons(to avoid problems like with minigun)