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i know two ways to become admin. first is to post application and second is to be recommended. as i know i post very bad applications plus they are rare and i an never recommended cause ... i dont know why. so my question is: have we got any others ways to become admin? player relations admin?
As far as I'm aware they are the only ways.
well the third way is to hack graal era and black mail admins to make you supreme leader of graal (LOL i can make a movie on that)
If you help iEra in GFX/LAT/SFX/Script, I'm sure higher staff PRs will hire you IF you're willing to accept the job.
That is, the 3rd way.
But you still need to fill up the application form to do so.
all my hats and heads that i tried to make really bad... but i will try leveling or scripting.
Sasha I love you man. :).
lol :}
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OMG NO IT IS TOO HARD!!! star, do you know any others ways? i just watched some guides and understood that graal scripting and leveling is too hard for me...html much easier, you dont need to download or buy anything.
It's not easy to learn, it takes a few months or maybe a year to be good for iEra. You can't just learn it just like that. Btw to script you will need to be staff in a server.
yeah, i know. i found some guides thats why i will try some thing another
Well you need to try more! You don't learn evrything in one day! All of these things need's practice for a long time. Nothing that come quik.
i want to become player relations part. i played for 4 years, i think it is long time so i have big knowledge. why i cant join player relations team
"Champions aren't made in the ring-- they are merely recognized there."
You've identified two realms where people get recognized-- two "rings".
Application, and recommendation.
And you're not wrong-- those are pretty much the only entry points that you have, if your goal is to be a PR.
However, you've overlooked what happens before those points: the "training" that happens in order for you to be recognized in those "rings".
How do you get to the point of being recognized on an application, or recommended?
Show that you can do the job before even obtaining it.
You've got a golden opportunity right here on these forums:
People are constantly asking questions here-- many of which are the same exact questions we get as PRs.
Be proactive: respond to these cries for help.
See this as an opportunity to show everybody, "I'm here to help people. Even though I don't have the title, I'm going to go above and beyond to help my fellow player."
This way, in addition to helping people, you'll also be building on your resume by advertising your knowledge.
Not only will this assist you in getting recommended, but when it comes to an application, regardless of what you put down, if it's written halfway decent and the PRA is reading your application, thinking: "Youknow, this guy does a damn good job helping people on the forums."; Chances are, you'll be among the finalists.
Alternatively, you could knock the application out of the park, but if the PRA is reading it, and thinking: "This guy never tries to help people on the forums, and he's always putting people down." Chances are, your application's going right in the trash.
So in short, a "third way" is to get proactive and start acting like a PR before you're even hired.
Work on always demonstrating your qualifications.
i already started to help people very active near 2 years ago when i got normal knowledge, i started helping people on forums when people started to stay here. i played much time so i have information that i give other players. i answer questions about weapons, suggest others, answer all questions, noobs questions also, i give this forums 2 hours per day and 1 hour to iEra. and i have not been recommended. i still think that when you help other players admin pay attention tothat but i want to find some others ways cause 2 years is too long and i think i an still far to dream.
Youve been afk for nearly 3 years straight lol, and if your dream is to be staff on a game then you seriously need a life or need to consider to do something with your life cause their are way better things out there waiting for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by SashaGryg
You don't need to buy anything to script or level either.Quote:
Originally Posted by SashaGryg
If you're already doing it, then keep at it.Quote:
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If you're consistently delivering helpful information, it will eventually get noticed and pay off.
One thing I recommend not doing: Don't let it get to you; and don't let it get you down.
If you really want it, keep going for it. Persistence pays off.
Also, don't make a habit of posting complaints about not getting hired.
An inquiry like this to make sure you're on the right track is good, but often times people push the envelope and start complaining.
When people complain about "not getting hired", it makes them look desperate; and this makes me question their intentions.
It shows me that they don't have faith in the system, and are very hungry for the power that comes with the position, instead of the intent of helping people.
To give you a more personalized examination, I've taken the liberty of looking at four pages of your posts.
It does seem that your intent is there-- your posts usually have intent to help people.
That's excellent- keep that up.
The only stabs against you that I see, from the outside looking in:
As far as your forum etiquette:
Grammar. A lot of people dismiss grammar because they don't feel it unnecessary.
To me, putting in the effort to correct the grammar in your posts shows integrity. It shows that you care about what you're saying.
It also makes it easier on the reader-- they won't have to second guess where your statements begin and end; and gives the feel of professionalism.
The last thing we want to worry about with our new hires is whether or not they'll represent us with some degree of professionalism.
As I read your posts, it almost looks like your shift key is missing, as well as all punctuation.
Also, your sentence structure-- Your enter key seems to be missing as well.
It's a good idea to keep your thoughts structured.
If it's within the same topic, every time you address a new point, you want to bring it down to another line.
If you're switching topics, alternating viewpoints, or addressing another piece of the conversation at large, double space.
Again- it makes it easier on the reader and allows your message to be conveyed effortlessly.
And if you're out there helping people, you want your messages to be easily digested.
As far as your content:
Yes; as I stated: I can see your intent to assist is there.
Your posts tend to have more of a conversative tone than an informative tone; which effects the way the entire message is perceived.
When you're trying to pass on your Era knowledge to newcomers by addressing questions, you want your responses to have an "informative" tone.
You don't want it to sound like gossip.
You want your reader to know that you stand by your posts with confidence.
If you're giving information, state everything you say as if it's fact. (After all, it should be.)
You cannot show any sign of instability in your thoughts when you drop knowledge.
These things are just what stuck out to me as potential hindrances to your recognition/recommendation.
If I were the one going through applications, these are things I would thumbs down right off the cuff.
I thought there was a rule against these threads :(
There is no rule against asking about qualifications of being hired, only threads complaining about jails or direct threads asking to be hired are frowned upon.
Meph, you sad that i have not got shift. yes, it is true, i havent because i sit here from phone. and i dont think that my grammar is really terrible, but if you want to understand my words easier then i can write like in this message. i cant write better then this message's grammar. also I dont see any reason to write more readable cause my friends or anybody else understands me when I answer on theirs questions. thanks much anyway for suggestions
The thing is that your grammar and spelling and the rest of it must be of high quality if you want to be a PR. If you are not a translator but a PR then it must be easy for players to understand in English because that is the main language used.Quote:
Originally Posted by SashaGryg
Anyway good luck with trying to get hired.
thanks :\ I work as hard as I can on my grammar.
I think you need to buy gold at least once to script, my brother couldn't open rc since he has never bought gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grief Hero
Scripting requires lots of things to remember.
Scripting in GS really isn't difficult, it just takes much practice. I recommend learning Javascript up to your limit first, then acknowledging how Java interacts with GS. Here's a site that I find very easy and well-made to learn Java: http://www.codecademy.com/
After you've reached your limit of choice, go ahead and read this article, created by FowlPlay4: http://public.zodiacdev.com/Fowlplay4
This is of course, if you'd like to get into scripting.
Leveling on the other hand, is very simple, but a good level will take a ridiculous amount of effort and skill.
Lol I just got done with Javascript last night and I might go through it again. I'm probably going to start python next week.
Scripting was hard, until you understand it. I may get back into it soon.
Thanks for the site! its coolQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter
It's your determination that will get you too succeed and so you shall in time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grandpa Illusions
which java i need to learn? i know that we use java language to make games on phones, and also i know java language that we use by including it into html. so which one
The second one you should go to the link Peter provided and enroll into the course JavaScript. You can make an account if you want to same your progress. It's pretty cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by SashaGryg
hhhm, i already leant javascripts. also i looked that second link and found that it is same as php.
The same syntax of PHP? I can see the structure, yes. But not too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by SashaGryg
The sites I've listed really only give you an idea of the logic, math, syntax, etc of GS and how they'll be used while coding in GS.
Man, just wanted to tell you this: you're amazing.Quote:
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i dont know, i just started reading but i already found that it almost same. but it is only start...Quote:
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where can i run my code, and where can i write it? so what programm i need to use?
If you're referring to GS, RC contains a built-in scripting interface.Quote:
Originally Posted by SashaGryg
If you're referring to Java, and you're interested in really getting involved with it, then I recommend Eclipse: https://www.eclipse.org/
You can find a large selection of Eclipse over YouTube.
Hope this helps.
no, i meant GS. i used to test javascripts on notepad :} can you please post link with that RC?
RC is built into the Graal client and can only be used at full potential with rights on a Graal server. I'm not sure if gold is still required since I haven't played in months, but if you don't have playerworlds yet, it can be found here: http://graalonline.com/playerworlds/Quote:
Originally Posted by SashaGryg
As I've heard, testbed is open once again and information upon it can be found here: http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...hlight=testbed
If you can contact NicoX or whoever else who can give rights, whether it's over PM on a server or whatever, then you're good to go.
ough, so firstly i need to purchase or find server to check my scripts working?
Precisely.Quote:
Originally Posted by SashaGryg
Testbed is the best choice. I'm not knowing of any servers that will give rights for practicing scripting.
Codecademy is not the best example. I can recommend codegym https://codegym.cc/quests, as they have great interactive tutorial. The advantage here is that you'll have a Interactive walkthrough and buddies that will be able to help youQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter