Player Relations Applicants

Good day to all Graalians, i know this topic hasn't been opened in a while or ever as far as i have seen. I'm just here to make a point of view which to be honest has affected alot of players in the past months or even years.As we all know there comes a time where there would be opportunities for job offerings in era which include Newspaper Team, Moderators,Level designing, and even development team.People with high dreams would have such thing as a dream come true to be hired to once of these categories listed.I wont talk in third person view, yes im one of the many that wish to be one.In the last 4 months i have been talking to many admins, being advertised by many to become one of the player relations team. Two weeks ago i get told by Ser and Reno (with all due respect to them both) that i cant get hired due to the one jail i have in my record and several warnings.As all or many of you guys know i got a brother named Wisko which used to play Graal online era and currently stopped using his account and started sometimes logging into my account and using it.Let me get this straight, he is the one that has caused me that jail and some of the warnings and unfortunately wouldn't be able to prove it unless we would go back in time. I told Reno and many others that it was my brother, some believed some didn't.. Then there goes my last dream of being able to achieve something i always worked for. Yes, as many of you have asked i have helped find glitches and reported them to snk himself, stopped vulgar languages etc...

I think everyone should deserve a chance, because people actually change with time and do not remain the same as they were.I just wish many of you would understand and try to put yourselves in my place because im pretty sure many of you have been wanting to even taste the thing of being a Player Relations admin and have been declined due to a bad history. Last thing to say --> (When prisoners do something against the law, they get what they deserve and that is jail ..but after being jailed out they get a normal life and yes they can get job offers into police departments). now thats in real life, try making the same in Era life and make people enjoy it to their max.

Thank You- Frisko

Meph had 12 of his accounts banned on PC Era, and now he is one of the most famous admins; pretty sure Ser and Reno can't do that lol; they can't tell you that you won't have the opportunity to become an admin due to being jailed.

Try pm/email them with logical reasons.
Show them your loyalty.
Thats how I contact Reno

You were only jailed for harassment/vulgarity, as far as I remember, and you got what you deserved; it's not like u hacked lolol xd

Exactly, trust me i tried everything literally. I pmed every admin to the point of making them think of resigning due to me. I got nothing...they talked to me as if i have hacked the graal server or something. Pengu has warnings and got hired, meph was jailed and banned...idk why they keep declining me for such a thing.

Lmaoo beta frisko you are rude af In game, I remember seeing you rage every time you loose and event. Anyways oh yeah the typical blame it on my brother excuse bahahaha. And it's funny how ser is pra I remember seeing him on graalians also whining how he wasn't hired for pr, now look at him he's a pra.

Just to let you know, it's hard for people in real life to get jobs they've wanted because of their jail history.

That was their choice. In my opinion, making a thread on this isn't going to help your case.

Beta ,you dont deserve it
Many times you called me bad names and other people.

Beta frisko sucks up to admins and in reality he is rude , you don't even deserve this position just cause you don't got many jail warnings doesn't mean you are what you say you really are. That's because I seen how you are in game. Making a thread on this won't better your chances :3

lol i never opened my mouth in any bad words or vulgarity unless it offended me and most times i just report the person.
Bram and nwo to be honest your opinion or hatered is the LAST thing they would look if hiring someone so keep talking and have a nice day.

Well Idk why you point that out to me because unlike you I dont give a rat's *** about being staff. And quit acting all civilized on the forums lol if we were in game you would of been cursing at me scrub

If XENA can make it, so can you.

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Originally Posted by #14 AJ

Meph had 12 of his accounts banned on PC Era, and now he is one of the most famous admins; pretty sure Ser and Reno can't do that lol; they can't tell you that you won't have the opportunity to become an admin due to being jailed.

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True story.

Prior to 2006, I had been banned on over 12 accounts for glitch abuse, memory editing, and ban evasion.

It should be noted that I began using that exploitation experience for good; and began consistently notifying the staff every exploit I found, and I became an asset.
Enough of an asset that, after nearly two years of "good behavior", I was invited to the staff team as a GP (Equivalent to a Player Relations today).

Eight years later, here I am.
I've held every position from GP to PR to Gang/Business Admin, and created the title Gun Admin.

So yeah- it can happen.
First prove that you're not a liability, then prove that you're an asset.

Also worth nothing:
I have never filled out an application.
I have never made a thread begging to be hired.

Some other pointers:
http://era-go.com/forum/showthread.p...l=1#post166349

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Originally Posted by Meph

So yeah- it can happen.
First prove that you're not a liability, then prove that you're an asset.

Also worth nothing:
I have never I ever filled out an application.
I have never made a thread begging to be hired.

Some other pointers:
http://era-go.com/forum/showthread.p...l=1#post166349

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Ooo SHOTS FIRED

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Originally Posted by Meph

True story.

Prior to 2006, I had been banned on over 12 accounts for glitch abuse, memory editing, and ban evasion.

It should be noted that I began using that exploitation experience for good; and began consistently notifying the staff every exploit I found, and I became an asset.
Enough of an asset that, after nearly two years of "good behavior", I was invited to the staff team as a GP (Equivalent to a Player Relations today).

Eight years later, here I am.
I've held every position from GP to PR to Gang/Business Admin, and created the title Gun Admin.

So yeah- it can happen.
First prove that you're not a liability, then prove that you're an asset.

Also worth nothing:
I have never filled out an application.
I have never made a thread begging to be hired.

Some other pointers:
http://era-go.com/forum/showthread.p...l=1#post166349

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Note that I never meant in my first post on this thread to offend you in any manner; I'm just saying that the graal staff DOES believe in second chances, and you are a proof.
That, along with the fact that XENA was jailed more times than I could count; he still made it, and he did a nice job.
Quite frankly, I have had fights with some of the current PRs, and those fights led to some vulgarity, but now I see those same people working for era and doing a brilliant job; so ya, the PRAs DO believe in second chances.

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Originally Posted by Beta Frisko

Exactly, trust me i tried everything literally. I pmed every admin to the point of making them think of resigning due to me. I got nothing...they talked to me as if i have hacked the graal server or something. Pengu has warnings and got hired, meph was jailed and banned...idk why they keep declining me for such a thing.

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I was warned twice for glitching in 2011. That's it lol.

I started this game when I was 12 so I was pretty immature at first.

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Originally Posted by Cudislagne

If XENA can make it, so can you.

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Originally Posted by Meph

True story.

Prior to 2006, I had been banned on over 12 accounts for glitch abuse, memory editing, and ban evasion.

It should be noted that I began using that exploitation experience for good; and began consistently notifying the staff every exploit I found, and I became an asset.
Enough of an asset that, after nearly two years of "good behavior", I was invited to the staff team as a GP (Equivalent to a Player Relations today).

Eight years later, here I am.
I've held every position from GP to PR to Gang/Business Admin, and created the title Gun Admin.

So yeah- it can happen.
First prove that you're not a liability, then prove that you're an asset.

Also worth nothing:
I have never filled out an application.
I have never made a thread begging to be hired.

Some other pointers:
http://era-go.com/forum/showthread.p...l=1#post166349

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Thanks cudi i hope you too if you want that because you too deserve it.
And meph lol yeah people been talking about it and to be honest...i beg because its been over a year i want it and suddenly my brother comes and ruins a dream i worked hard for..if you were my place you would have killed my brother by now. But good thing i told casper and others and told me to let wisko stop using my account which i did.

Doesn't matter how long it's been. I've been playing since 2011, hired 2013 (resigned same year because computer was starting to die, as well as interferring with some things) and I never begged. Only been warned once and that was 2011 or 2012. Basically what I'm saying is, begging ruins your chances and that just because you've been playing for a year does not mean you are "ready" to be staff.

This thread makes me lol'd.
So what's your motive? Trying to reduce your bad records because of what your brother did?
The responsibility lies in you, your brother is your brother. Nobody can stop him other than you, don't push the whole blame to just your siblings.
Think about others, it's not like they actually knew.

And I bet you just want to minimize the amount of jail records you got, I don't care if you report glitches/vulgarities to admins.
That's part of a player's job, the most half goes to the staffs. Anybody can do what you do, don't make a fuss about it.

Now, stop crying and actually go earn your own reputation again. Be more of a liability.

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Originally Posted by XSTARX

This thread makes me lol'd.
So what's your motive? Trying to reduce your bad records because of what your brother did?
The responsibility lies in you, your brother is your brother. Nobody can stop him other than you, don't push the whole blame to just your siblings.
Think about others, it's not like they actually knew.

And I bet you just want to minimize the amount of jail records you got, I don't care if you report glitches/vulgarities to admins.
That's part of a player's job, the most half goes to the staffs. Anybody can do what you do, don't make a fuss about it.

Now, stop crying and actually go earn your own reputation again. Be more of a liability.

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Lmao who said i care what do you care ? and since when do you take decisions for admins lol. TBH if you wanna lol it makes me happy i did :) giving me another reason to be a pr xd and btw its "responsibility lies ON you" not "IN you" just watch grammar.

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Originally Posted by Mystic

Doesn't matter how long it's been. I've been playing since 2011, hired 2013 (resigned same year because computer was starting to die, as well as interferring with some things) and I never begged. Only been warned once and that was 2011 or 2012. Basically what I'm saying is, begging ruins your chances and that just because you've been playing for a year does not mean you are "ready" to be staff.

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and no mystic i never actually begged it was a figure of speech. I just asked alot and yes iam ready to be a staff and many and myself know that.

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Originally Posted by Cudislagne

Ooo SHOTS FIRED

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I didn't mean that as an attack; I'm laying it out to be informative.

Lately I've seen threads sprouting up, either:

• Claiming that they're more qualified than people who made the cut.
• Claiming belief that poor application procedures are to blame for their unemployment.
• Claiming belief that a jail/ban record is to blame for their unemployment.
• Questioning the validity of our recommendation processes.

In another thread, Ventus wrote:

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Originally Posted by Ventus

Direct threads asking to be hired are frowned upon.

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Ventus is exactly correct; it is frowned upon.
As is any thread that addresses any of the above scenarios.

Don't get me wrong: simply asking the question, "how do I get hired", isn't a bad thing.
But at this point in time, there are several threads out there that already address this question in depth.
I myself have written a few detailed responses on this matter.
It's a genuine question that somebody can address indefinitely, without their credibility going down the tubes.

But to question the administration, and publicly accuse their employment processes of discrimination?
I certainly hope nobody expects to get hired after this display of ignorance.

1) It shows immaturity.
2) It shows that you're not in it for the right reasons. You sound more hungry for power than anything.
3) It shows that you can't take criticism.
4) It's bad sportsmanship.
5) It shows the administration that they have made no mistake in turning you down.

That's like applying at a local hardware store, getting declined, then protesting at their front door with a sign saying, "Screw Meph's Hardware. He hired his best friend's sister instead of me!"

In the event of getting turned down, dust yourself off and try again.

If you feel the need to consult the status of your application, don't do it publicly.
Go directly to the person who denied you, and inquire on how you could improve.
And when they notify you, don't go public with it, claiming discrimination.

You could also compare yourself to one of the applicants that made the cut in an unbiased manner: What do they posses that you don't?

And it could very well be that they network better than you.
This is reality-- Networking is a large part of any employment process.
Get out there and network.
You gain nothing by feeling sorry for yourself.

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Originally Posted by #14 AJ

Note that I never meant in my first post on this thread to offend you in any manner

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None taken :p
I openly admit it- that record is what initially qualified me to be staff.

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Originally Posted by CircusAfro

I was warned twice for glitching in 2011. That's it lol.

I started this game when I was 12 so I was pretty immature at first.

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Yeah i know you told me and in warnings as i said doesnt mean "1000 warnings" i just said warnings which is more than once. #RespectPenguins

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Originally Posted by Meph

I didn't mean that as an attack; I'm laying it out to be informative.

Lately I've seen threads sprouting up, either:

• Claiming that they're more qualified than people who made the cut.
• Claiming belief that poor application procedures are to blame for their unemployment.
• Claiming belief that a jail/ban record is to blame for their unemployment.
• Questioning the validity of our recommendation processes.

In another thread, Ventus wrote:

Ventus is exactly correct; it is frowned upon.
As is any thread that addresses any of the above scenarios.

Don't get me wrong: simply asking the question, "how do I get hired", isn't a bad thing.
But at this point in time, there are several threads out there that already address this question in depth.
I myself have written a few detailed responses on this matter.
It's a genuine question that somebody can address indefinitely, without their credibility going down the tubes.

But to question the administration, and publicly accuse their employment processes of discrimination?
I certainly hope nobody expects to get hired after this display of ignorance.

1) It shows immaturity.
2) It shows that you're not in it for the right reasons. You sound more hungry for power than anything.
3) It shows that you can't take criticism.
4) It's bad sportsmanship.
5) It shows the administration that they have made no mistake in turning you down.

That's like applying at a local hardware store, getting declined, then protesting at their front door with a sign saying, "Screw Meph's Hardware. He hired his best friend's sister instead of me!"

In the event of getting turned down, dust yourself off and try again.

If you feel the need to consult the status of your application, don't do it publicly.
Go directly to the person who denied you, and inquire on how you could improve.
And when they notify you, don't go public with it, claiming discrimination.

You could also compare yourself to one of the applicants that made the cut in an unbiased manner: What do they posses that you don't?

And it could very well be that they network better than you.
This is reality-- Networking is a large part of any employment process.
Get out there and network.
You gain nothing by feeling sorry for yourself.


None taken :p
I openly admit it- that record is what initially qualified me to be staff.

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Well i hope my record does the same because its been a year..LITERALLY! and i dont want power..i just have desire.

Beta you are just power hungry lol you don't need to be staff in order to help others.

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Originally Posted by Beta Frisko

and no mystic i never actually begged it was a figure of speech. I just asked alot and yes iam ready to be a staff and many and myself know that.

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Asking a lot still doesn't help. If they think you are right for the job, they will contact you themselves.

There's a difference between you thinking you're ready, and them thinking you're ready.

Most of the people ona get hired for the powers and get Attention! Not actullay to help people

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Originally Posted by Beta Frisko

Thanks cudi i hope you too if you want that because you too deserve it.
And meph lol yeah people been talking about it and to be honest...i beg because its been over a year i want it and suddenly my brother comes and ruins a dream i worked hard for..if you were my place you would have killed my brother by now. But good thing i told casper and others and told me to let wisko stop using my account which i did.

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Originally Posted by Beta Frisko

Lmao who said i care what do you care ? and since when do you take decisions for admins lol. TBH if you wanna lol it makes me happy i did :) giving me another reason to be a pr xd and btw its "responsibility lies ON you" not "IN you" just watch grammar.

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and no mystic i never actually begged it was a figure of speech. I just asked alot and yes iam ready to be a staff and many and myself know that.

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You contradicted yourself there. And you are in no position to criticise anyone elses grammar.

By keep asking admins to hire you and by making threads asking will not help you in anyway, you come across as immature and desperate which is not what is wanted by staff.

I've played for four years., I've never been jailed, banned, or warned, but I've never made a thread about why I haven't been hired yet. They know who is right for the job and who is not. You're a good player, but it's just best to wait then rush.

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Originally Posted by Lafez

Most of the people ona get hired for the powers and get Attention! Not actullay to help people

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That's why they don't stay for long

Honestly, this thread isn't really going anywhere and is just filled with lots of arguments.

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Originally Posted by CircusAfro

I was warned twice for glitching in 2011. That's it lol.

I started this game when I was 12 so I was pretty immature at first.

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I started playing when I was 10 years old (Basically I was playing iClassic actively for 9 months, along with iEra up until now, and I started iEra in late Jan 2011). Do you know how immature I was back then? Even though I wanted the position of PR at the age of 11, I was super immature. Led to constant warnings, jails, bans, etc. etc. Being 14 now, I find it tremendously ridiculous that they still think I am still the same as my past years, even when it was 2011.

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Originally Posted by Beta Frisko

Thanks cudi i hope you too if you want that because you too deserve it.

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Just easy on the vulgarity. I've seen you in-game, and honestly, every time I saw you, you would swear all the way to space.

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Originally Posted by Meph

I didn't mean that as an attack; I'm laying it out to be informative.

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Well, you accidentally dropped some HOT SHOTS!

And mystic you usually just write without reading, with all due respect go read what i said..im not just random guy asking to be hired, its cuz i have a situation.

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Originally Posted by Cudislagne

I started playing when I was 10 years old (Basically I was playing iClassic actively for 9 months, along with iEra up until now, and I started iEra in late Jan 2011). Do you know how immature I was back then? Even though I wanted the position of PR at the age of 11, I was super immature. Led to constant warnings, jails, bans, etc. etc. Being 14 now, I find it tremendously ridiculous that they still think I am still the same as my past years, even when it was 2011.

Well cudi as u said i was immature and true they still think people were as they were when kids like a year or more ago.
and greg lol this isnt being desperate when your actually trynna make a point. im here to tell people that this shouldnt be right people being judged by their past.and yes i do not wanna enter just for fame cuz already got so, and help? i always help people and some admins :) so yeah

Just easy on the vulgarity. I've seen you in-game, and honestly, every time I saw you, you would swear all the way to space.

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Well, you accidentally dropped some HOT SHOTS!

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Originally Posted by Beta Frisko

And mystic you usually just write without reading, with all due respect go read what i said..im not just random guy asking to be hired, its cuz i have a situation.

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Actually I do read, the first thing I posted was based off of your original post, the rest was commenting on things you said afterwards. It doesn't matter if you have a "situation", you said yourself you asked them a lot to be hired.

I guess I'm done posting since it's going to continue to be an argument. I said what I had to say.
http://era-go.com/forum/showthread.p...oming-an-admin

Probably should be closed.

This thread has pretty much turned into an argument war, there's no need for it to stay open any longer. Thread closed.