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Title says it all. Do it please.
Opr is 50k tickets yet it got nerfed.
They reduce the fire rate of the gun.
isnt it 50k tickets is equivalent to 100k gralats?(recurvez thread)
In my opinion the gun is not that Overpowered since u need 10 shots to kill ur enemy(5damge). Besides only few use the gun.
Real talk rebuff the OPR it's 50k on tickets and it takes a while to get there why would they lower it down when its a gun for fun I hardly see anyone use it.... And now nobody will use them since the fire rate got lowered down.. Just as useless as the other guns with low damage..
If you've looked carefully, before the price was increased many had already gotten the OPR & BPP at such low prices with the old stats.
So demanding/complaining for a buff will most likely not happen.
I understand that but complaining is how the OPR and BPP got nurfed in the first place...Quote:
Originally Posted by XSTARX
Im not going to say to rebuff the gun but please when you guys(gun admins) nerf/buff a certain gun/item kindly provide a detail of what gun got nerf/buff and the reason why it got changed.
In that way we will not be guessing of what happen. You can change the stats of any gun that you want as long as you provide a certain reason of doing so.
Most of the player wont even notice the change because they have no clue of what happen.
We should sue Era for false advertisement. They sell us a gun and then nerf it to hell
OPR=Flame
Blue pistol=Cripple Cannon
No sorry, we dont want arcade guns to be equal to EC guns. No thx. If your gonna rebuff it then lower the damage of it
I own the OPR, and I can honestly say the buff was needed, despite the fact that it's to my disadvantage. Using the gun in Spar was ridiculous and frankly unstoppable. With the combined fire and stun it was basically unstoppable and I could just fly around the arena. I have since been using the m4 and it's a lot more fair. To sum it all up, it's reasonable that they buffed it, especially considering how easy it is to get tickets, I got the OPR in merely a day.
Lol like a flame??? Seriously the flame is super OP spams like no other gun and your trying to compare them???lmfao.... the OPR was no where close that it needs the fast speed fire cuz its 4 DMG.. And it was 50k to get... When somebody has a flame you have no chance u die over and over while they heal up... You just probably sucked at facing somebody with an opr there not hard ppl to take out. Try harder ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NiM0
I feel that the nerf was necessary.
In preparation for GST, I went through all EC items, and Arcade items.
I never realized how good the Arcade guns were-- the OPR was easily better than any EC item on the market.
At least, for me.
The only "weakness" it had was the low damage, which in no way really stunted the gun, because of the many advantages it had.
-Moderate Spread
-Knockback/Electricity/Fire
-High Fire Rate
-Low Freeze
-Automatic Reload
The Automatic Reload is definitely the thing that gave it the biggest edge.
People compare it to the flame, but the flamethrower has a lengthy reload to contest the advantages it offers.
The OPR, by contrast, has an automatic reload, which is yet another advantage in its favor.
Even with the nerfed fire rate, the gun still dominates.
Dominate? Its nowhere close to even usable anymore. I think it fires somewhere around 1.5 bullets a second. 5 damage per bullet. It would take a whole 10 bullets to kill someone, and at that fire rate, a whole 7-10 seconds. You can't kill someone with it unless they were in the kitchen making a sandwich. And the automatic reload right? What happens when you're in a situation where you have to blast off a whole clip? The thing charges 2 bullets per second, so if you run off the clip, you're pretty much screwed. That thing was perfect as it was. Its low damage was a disadvantage, fire rate and freeze for the advantage, low spread was a disadvantage, and the clip/recharge is advantage/disadvantage(perspective). Plus the recoil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meph
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Don't even try comparing it to flamer. OPR vs. Flamer, OPR would die in about 2.4 seconds.
After trying out the OPR, you nerfed it way too bad. I literally regret wasting my time getting tickets so you incompetent staff can just nerf it horribly, I agree that it needed a nerf. But are you all idiots? It was 50k tickets, use your brain.
I suppose it was a little premature for me to use the word "dominates".
That was actually a theory based on the advantages that the gun still has. I couldn't imagine the fire rate being that potent, but I very well could be wrong.
My apologies for jumping to the conclusion.
I haven't actually used it since the nerf; I'll take it out for a walk today(or tomorrow) and get back to you.
Thank you Meph :) You're one of those very few good admins who actually care.
Xfg smg and mg36 are now better than OPR so do u think it needs nerf for the upcoming GST?
I mean its not a valid reason to nerf a gun that was released long time ago just to give way for the upcoming event.
Also id like to point out that OPR doesnt have stack damage, it has recoil, the effect chance is low and has an auto reload which can be a disadvantage.
Btw opr bullet is small compare to the bpp.
If ur reason was because of gst why not just ban it in the events or allow the players to get their tickets back?
I'm pretty sure every staff member cares, otherwise they wouldn't be staff. But what do I know right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow7980
My eyes say:BPP is better than OPR when spar
First they increase the tickets for everything in the arcade shop. Now they nerf it, awful, the only thing the arcade is good for is the hats.
It wasn't even powerful with its original stats. Basing with it was basically suicide, the damage is pretty low to effectively PK with, and the recoil made it hard to dodge in spar. It was only effective in gang spar.
I asked for the nerf
Bram ;-; y u dos dis. I don nuttin 2 yu
Everyone who got butthurt by people beating them in spar, Bram for instance asked for the nerf.
Nerf the bar too, right?
Your logic is retarded, the Bar is the most OP gun ever, and you won't nerf it. You're all pathetic. I get that I said the nerf was needed, but not this much. This is just plain outrageous.
It did need a nerf. But making it less powerful doesn't mean turning it into a $200 handgun with 20 clip. If you wanna nerf it, restore the firerate and reduce clip to 13-15
Agree with this post one hundred percent. It's just a gun for looks now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow7980
Sorry Obey, have to call you out on this one.
He doesn't brag about his use of marijuana, he just gives his view on it.
Just because you do drugs, like distorted or me, doesn't mean saying your point of view is bragging about using it.
Other than this, I agree with most of the other things you said.
Close thread or stay on topic?
Agreed. Back on topic then :)Quote:
Originally Posted by crd
OPR's clip is almost infinite even when you are firing auto. It does 5 damage perfect and has a 40% chance to deal knockback along with burn damage that can add an extra 3-5 damage if the effect hits. (The % of burn happening is the same as flames). It still has low freeze and the bullets are hard to dodge because of the weird animations they have. The arcades aren't meant to be good, they're just fun guns that are more or less free. I doubt anyone with the guns even bought it after the price increase anyway. I don't really know why alpho decided to make them so strong without saying anything to rec and I. The stats before the nerf were identicle to the cripple cannon except had burn damage which cripple didn't have. They are still mid tier guns because you can just continuously spam it without reload penalties which makes it extremely hard for your opponent to get a chance to shoot back without taking damage
I bought it when the prices increased.... I know others have too... Just not fair that we spent all that time for a gun we thought was fun n good to get nurfed... What's the point of going for the other guns now? I bet soon they will all get nurfed....Quote:
Originally Posted by BiTzSam
If the arcade gun was made for fun then youre ruining the fun by nerfinf it.
Now im starting to believe that the game promotes bait and switch scam.
First you increase the price of arcade items then you nerfed it and cover it up by saying that the gun was overpowered in the first place
Sam are you kidding me? Hard to shoot back? The thing fires slower than crap. Its easy as heck to dodge and spam back at. Once again, you took a gun that many had worked for and were proud to have obtained, and turned it into a piece of crap that symbolizes how much Era has been ruined by incompetent staff. That gun actually had a chance to compete with higher tier guns. Tickets aren't like EC or graalats, they have to be EARNED! There is only 1 way to earn them. Buff them back to the way they were and nerf the clip like i said.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiTzSam
This. You idiots have no idea what you're doing with guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow7980
So it was buffed for The GST when its not even allowed in it..... I say bull sh... On that statement
Which is why it was OP. It isn't mean't to bear high tier guns. BAR can be earned too if you dig for it. OPR costs less and takes less time to get so it isn't suppose to be good. And again, the majority of people who got the gun got it before the price was increased.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow7980
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It wasn't nerfed because of GSTQuote:
Originally Posted by The Goofs
Read comment #11 and tell me it wasn't... & is there some special system to show that the majority got the opr when the prices were low? Plz show us these statisticsQuote:
Originally Posted by BiTzSam
Wrong. BAR, you could just buy with money. There is absolutely no way to buy tickets.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiTzSam
Oh no; my apologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Goofs
After reading it, I can see where you would get that impression.
I was simply stating that I had a side-by-side comparison of EC and Arcade guns.
I did deem that the arcade guns(Dubstep, OPR, and BPP) were OP, and simply disabled it from GST 2015.
I was asked to compile a list of guns that I felt weren't conducive to skill based play. That's all I did.
Nerfing guns was not part of that request, so it wasn't even on my radar.
And even if it were requested of me, I'm not currently Gun Admin.
I respect the title enough to consult with Bitzsam on any changes made prior to making any adjustment.
I had nothing to do with nerfing the OPR. In fact, Bitz and I haven't even talked about it.
Evidently we both agreed that it was overpowered, and he adjusted it as he saw appropriate.
I've been sick the past couple days and haven't had the opportunity to play with it, so I can't say whether or not it is as bad as people are saying.
Hope you get better soon, Meph :)
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The nerf made it as bad as it gets. I haven't seen it happen, but i believe it can be easily destroyed by dub step gun now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meph
I dont have OPR,but i have spar ppl with it and it doesnt feel that op to deserve a nerf,Sam maybe its time for you to move on as GA and do something else,lately all you do is nerf guns and not really bringing new content to the game,by that i mean new guns,we are already in late march and we havent seen any new guns released (auction guns dont count).
And where is mp5,just coz you dont like a gun you dont release it? its been 4 years and this iconic gun from era hasnt been released.And plz not auctions only crap.
Plz man check it out for yourself I mean now the fire rate sucks... The dart gun has a faster shot.... How do that work when u have to actually take your time to earn it.... I mean u gotta buy the coins or wait for the freebies but you still had to sit there and play the games now I know.... Its not suppose to be as good as the bar but anyone can just throw in $80 and buy it even a noob... These guns u actually got to put in the work can't just buy it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Meph