Model 1887's

Okay, so these guns are in PC client... and I absolutely LOVE them. Best shotguns hands down, unfortunately they are not in the current Era. I would love to see these get added? sorry if this is the wrong section, I'm still learning the forums. I would suggest either making them purchasable, or make them an EC item. I love a good shotgun with a low freeze rate, the only one that is close is the Sawed off, but this gun only takes 3 shells and has a long reload time. I've seen almost every other gun make it to the current era from pc client, so why not the model's?

Because we Have too Many shotguns in graal Already, It maybe might be added though if it was From the Client, But imo it would mean there's more shotgun spam once its added.

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Originally Posted by DorZeGraal

Because we Have too Many shotguns in graal Already, It maybe might be added though if it was From the Client, But imo it would mean there's more shotgun spam once its added.

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Well the model's aren't really spammy, they only shoot like 2-3 bullets out at once and do like 5 dmg non stacked, they're really good for people who are really good at sparring with low freeze weapons only. That's why i want to see them, but my closest option is p2k's right now, which is a little extensive but doable.

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Originally Posted by Miffy

Well the model's aren't really spammy, they only shoot like 2-3 bullets out at once and do like 5 dmg non stacked, they're really good for people who are really good at sparring with low freeze weapons only. That's why i want to see them, but my closest option is p2k's right now, which is a little extensive but doable.

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Well yeah true then.
Since its Non-Stacked FFS

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Originally Posted by DorZeGraal

Because we Have too Many shotguns in graal Already, It maybe might be added though if it was From the Client, But imo it would mean there's more shotgun spam once its added.

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Originally Posted by UnTrueGabipants

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Don't act like you haven't Ragequitted and cussed at the PBP Spammers.

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Originally Posted by DorZeGraal

Don't act like you haven't Ragequitted and cussed at the PBP Spammers.

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don't act like you never wanted a new gun in game.

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Originally Posted by TrueGabipants

don't act like you never wanted a new gun in game.

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I Havent, I Already Have all i want ;)

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Originally Posted by DorZeGraal

I Havent, I Already Have all i want ;)

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spoiled brat

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Originally Posted by DorZeGraal

Don't act like you haven't Ragequitted and cussed at the PBP Spammers.

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PBP is easy as hell to defeat. If you're losing to them, theres something wrong.

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Originally Posted by Shadow7980

PBP is easy as hell to defeat. If you're losing to them, theres something wrong.

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I lose to them.

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Originally Posted by Grandpa Illusions

I lose to them.

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lol we all lose to them on ocassion, at the worst of times... like when you're at the peak of a 400 kill streak then some noob blasts you with his pbp out of nowhere before you even notice whats going on lmao

Models were sick asfk in COD MW2 :cool:

I think they want something more affordable

They would be very very OP if added here.

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Originally Posted by Daimao

They would be very very OP if added here.

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They could balance it...

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Originally Posted by Daimao

They would be very very OP if added here.

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How? 5 dmg non stacked? the fire rate is somewhat like the hk416 thats not very OP lol seeing how its only 3 bullets with a shorter spread

And when you reload it you flip it in the air like in mw2

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Originally Posted by Miffy

How? 5 dmg non stacked? the fire rate is somewhat like the hk416 thats not very OP lol seeing how its only 3 bullets with a shorter spread

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Is that what it is? Drop this BS and just buy the sawed off shotgun from Memphace Guns. The freeze is about the same as BAR, fires 4 rounds at a time, 3 shots per clip. The firerate is slightly faster than a single deagle. 50k. Problem solved. Close thread.

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Originally Posted by Shadow7980

Is that what it is? Drop this BS and just buy the sawed off shotgun from Memphace Guns. The freeze is about the same as BAR, fires 4 rounds at a time, 3 shots per clip. The firerate is slightly faster than a single deagle. 50k. Problem solved. Close thread.

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ummmmm no, i stated the sawed off already, while it's the only thing close, its not even close to comparison with the models. the models have a larger mag capacity, reload faster, less freeze... you're telling me you are a weapons expert? LOL the sawed off doesnt even have a freeze CLOSE to the BAR. I think you need to reinvent your definition of weapons expert. I have the sawed off and it is garbage. the reload freeze for 3 shots is stupid.

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Originally Posted by Bram

And when you reload it you flip it in the air like in mw2

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It actually did do this in the PC client so it should be included

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Originally Posted by Miffy

ummmmm no, i stated the sawed off already, while it's the only thing close, its not even close to comparison with the models. the models have a larger mag capacity, reload faster, less freeze... you're telling me you are a weapons expert? LOL the sawed off doesnt even have a freeze CLOSE to the BAR. I think you need to reinvent your definition of weapons expert. I have the sawed off and it is garbage. the reload freeze for 3 shots is stupid.

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It actually did do this in the PC client so it should be included

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Reading everything in Bold proved the Point that the Models will be too Op.
/closethread.

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Originally Posted by DorZeGraal

Reading everything in Bold proved the Point that the Models will be too Op.
/closethread.

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you guys are seriously dumb. non stacked 5 damage low freeze is SOOOO OP let me tell you, But running around with a huge mag in a BAR that does 10 DMG and spams auto is not too OP and is acceptable. Where's your logic? y'all dont know much about the gun

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Originally Posted by Miffy

ummmmm no, i stated the sawed off already, while it's the only thing close, its not even close to comparison with the models. the models have a larger mag capacity, reload faster, less freeze... you're telling me you are a weapons expert? LOL the sawed off doesnt even have a freeze CLOSE to the BAR. I think you need to reinvent your definition of weapons expert. I have the sawed off and it is garbage. the reload freeze for 3 shots is stupid.

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It actually did do this in the PC client so it should be included

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Sawed Shotgun: $50000
Dual: No
Damage: 6
Spread: 0.2
Freeze: 0.15
Fire Rate: 0.5
Reload Freeze: 0.6
Auto: No
Clip: 12
Not Stacked

I dug up some stats. Considering I don't have the gun, I think my estimate of "close to BAR" wasn't that far off the charts. Now, you're new to forums so I'd just like to tell you that insulting me wouldn't be in your best interest. Just a friendly warning.

This Model you're talking about seems to be pretty overpowered. I think it should be added as a 200k weapon, with some nerfs.

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Originally Posted by Miffy

you guys are seriously dumb. non stacked 5 damage low freeze is SOOOO OP let me tell you, But running around with a huge mag in a BAR that does 10 DMG and spams auto is not too OP and is acceptable. Where's your logic? y'all dont know much about the gun

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Factor in the Fact that most people will use it in spar.
The sawed shotgun is already OP in spar, So if your raising the Stats of it will make it EVEN more op.
Your obviously new to IEra, you might need to listen to the Veteran's of it Before you Call us Stupid.

Who cares about the PC one, let's balance it for iEra.

No bad idea to add this.

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Originally Posted by Shadow7980

PBP is easy as hell to defeat. If you're losing to them, theres something wrong.

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^^^^^^^
Freeze is way to high
Which is why its bad at spar

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Originally Posted by Miffy

you guys are seriously dumb. non stacked 5 damage low freeze is SOOOO OP let me tell you, But running around with a huge mag in a BAR that does 10 DMG and spams auto is not too OP and is acceptable. Where's your logic? y'all dont know much about the gun

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Bar is 200k the models are not
Your comparing an apple to an orange

CAN ANYONE LISTEN?

The 87 doesn't need to match PC Era's stats identically, we just need to nerf it down for corn sake.

I honestly don't see the difference from pc era to iEra, but you guys are the experts since I played PC era since 2003 and don't really know **** about iEra.

Whatever,
fact of the matter being that they aren't OP as you claim.
The reload freeze of the sawed off is a death sentence, so not really OP in spar.
Anywho, I don't really care what I say to you, you have your opinion, i have mine.