Saints Vision for a New Base Generation

So uhmm I am a baser since pretty much day 1 tbh I first melee killed pros to end their streak then got into basing. However lets keep the irrelevant out of the relevant... SO!!

Through my basing time I've seen the basing style change from fun and competitive into boredom and peacing every one or Stated in a rude way..kissing the butt of other gangs so they leave you alone until they become weaker and ditch them.

In short yea basing is dead the way it really was one day. Only last year one graal player made a difference whereas he Just ditched all peace and attacked who ever he wanted and as a reaction the weaker basers couldnt peace him so peaced each other to fight him which failed this is what basing used to be however less greedy (Duke of Obsidian was this player). Now we can get to the point Where basing has gone from bad into a disaster!

Which is why I made this thread;

With chemical guns, Stacked damage guns, Grenade launchers and gas launchers...basing is at this very point of being entirely ruined. Bases are small thus it is literally impossible to get through with a gang filled with such items especially if they lag and such guns get to lag aswell.

Some ideas that I summarised in a small list

* Make bases wider or Just huge for more walking space and getting rid of spam Walls Where it is about tactics again.

* make all stacked damage items function as non-stacked weapons inside bases only.

* disable healing inside bases however dont Let it be similar to neo as having half hp and spawn inside the hospital every time is Just annoying.

* Disable event and auction items or make guns deal only 7 damage inside bases.

* Add a New mode like fort for bases Where the gangs with the most hours at a certain base will be on the Police wanted list and gangs have to at tempt taking over the base from them and the top 3 gangs that week with more hours then the original gang will receive a big money reward.

If we odd to make any changes now is time to do so, over half of our previous basing Generation is Either gone or about to quit and the remains Just complain about every update so let's make basing #greatagain for the new players.



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I agree with most of it but I dont think auc guns and ec guns should be nerfed in basds they earned them for a reason it would be stupif and disapointing if it was nerfed

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Originally Posted by bluedragon123

I agree with most of it but I dont think auc guns and ec guns should be nerfed in basds they earned them for a reason it would be stupif and disapointing if it was nerfed

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Bar got nerfed and several other guns that were usd'd by half the users. And event items arent...They Either earned it or Let someone else earn it for them.

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Same I don't think they should disable ec/auction guns in the base. They earned it for a reason.
Everything else is ok-ish.

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Originally Posted by Dom Lucero

I like the ideas a lot, but I really don't see them ever happening just since people who use or take advantage of the current system would disagree, as well as staff who would see this as a lot of unnecessary work. I definitely like the 'no healing' idea, it'd be nice to see a base like that in the game.

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I know that there are Some staff around that share this Vision perhaps not the same way I do but definitely shows Some similarities. Meph tried it with Neo and he knows of skill. If the staff that are known for skilled play or respected by the community of spar/base which are only Meph, Bitzsam, Kane(known from pc) and at Some part Dan! that could pull this off or convince the manager on approving to do so.

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Basing needs fixed but not by nerfing ec weapons that were designed for basing lol. If that happens everyone will quit.

Hmmm maybe to condemn a base once a week - Ninja RRR

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You ituned for your bar if not then at least most of the bar users did

For the cg people earned it and waited at least months to get it so dont nerf a gun just because you cant get it

Why nerf it when its not even that op and the reload on it sucks

I agree on basing to make the bases bigger make a mpx base so people can only go in and base with a mpx gun thats the real skill instead of spamming your bar and wishing people would nerf cg so bar becomes the strongest gun again

If any ec item is touched I expect a full refund of the entire ec amount. But thankfully none of these ideas will ever see the light of day.

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Originally Posted by NiM0

You ituned for your bar if not then at least most of the bar users did

For the cg people earned it and waited at least months to get it so dont nerf a gun just because you cant get it

Why nerf it when its not even that op and the reload on it sucks

I agree on basing to make the bases bigger make a mpx base so people can only go in and base with a mpx gun thats the real skill instead of spamming your bar and wishing people would nerf cg so bar becomes the strongest gun again

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Bar is stronger then cg already 1v1 by far.

I have a better idea why not make new bases.

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Originally Posted by Link Co

I have a better idea why not make new bases.

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@Countryside

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@Countryside

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^^^^ IF it ever comes out.

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@Countryside

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There should be a new base that introduces a new mechanic

A base that is underground so it can be massive

Instead of one flag there are five flags

And there are obstacles to get to each flag
Such as a short little maze, secret pathways in the wall, bubbles, etc

In this base there can be five different or same gangs holding them
For every flag your gang captures you get a damage buff and health buff for every flag you capture within the base
So its like climbing a mountain
But the players in the certain area of the base only recieve the buff that area flag grants you
So buffs cant stack as you move around every base

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The base makes healing items not work
But your graalians heals slowly whenever you stand by your gangs flag

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And attacking npcs can also appear for one of the areas
Such as angry noobs, chainsaw thingys, kronos(grass things), snow kronos, zombies, crabs, etc

And yes those attacking npcs would also attack the gnag that holds the gang so it wouldnt be as unfair

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Originally Posted by Froz

There should be a new base that introduces a new mechanic

A base that is underground so it can be massive

Instead of one flag there are five flags

And there are obstacles to get to each flag
Such as a short little maze, secret pathways in the wall, bubbles, etc

In this base there can be five different or same gangs holding them
For every flag your gang captures you get a damage buff and health buff for every flag you capture within the base
So its like climbing a mountain
But the players in the certain area of the base only recieve the buff that area flag grants you
So buffs cant stack as you move around every base

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The base makes healing items not work
But your graalians heals slowly whenever you stand by your gangs flag

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And attacking npcs can also appear for one of the areas
Such as angry noobs, chainsaw thingys, kronos(grass things), snow kronos, zombies, crabs, etc

And yes those attacking npcs would also attack the gnag that holds the gang so it wouldnt be as unfair

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Lmao no

Please make MPX base

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Originally Posted by Victor

Please make MPX base

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Your basicly saying make a base for obs/shrekt. Lol

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Originally Posted by Saint Revla

So uhmm I am a baser since pretty much day 1 tbh I first melee killed pros to end their streak then got into basing. However lets keep the irrelevant out of the relevant... SO!!

Through my basing time I've seen the basing style change from fun and competitive into boredom and peacing every one or Stated in a rude way..kissing the butt of other gangs so they leave you alone until they become weaker and ditch them.

In short yea basing is dead the way it really was one day. Only last year one graal player made a difference whereas he Just ditched all peace and attacked who ever he wanted and as a reaction the weaker basers couldnt peace him so peaced each other to fight him which failed this is what basing used to be however less greedy (Duke of Obsidian was this player). Now we can get to the point Where basing has gone from bad into a disaster!

Which is why I made this thread;

With chemical guns, Stacked damage guns, Grenade launchers and gas launchers...basing is at this very point of being entirely ruined. Bases are small thus it is literally impossible to get through with a gang filled with such items especially if they lag and such guns get to lag aswell.

Some ideas that I summarised in a small list

* Make bases wider or Just huge for more walking space and getting rid of spam Walls Where it is about tactics again.

* make all stacked damage items function as non-stacked weapons inside bases only.

* disable healing inside bases however dont Let it be similar to neo as having half hp and spawn inside the hospital every time is Just annoying.

* Disable event and auction items or make guns deal only 7 damage inside bases.

* Add a New mode like fort for bases Where the gangs with the most hours at a certain base will be on the Police wanted list and gangs have to at tempt taking over the base from them and the top 3 gangs that week with more hours then the original gang will receive a big money reward.

If we odd to make any changes now is time to do so, over half of our previous basing Generation is Either gone or about to quit and the remains Just complain about every update so let's make basing #greatagain for the new players.



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Indeed, making bases more spacious will no doubt benefit the majority in terms of basing.

However, I cannot concur to having the damage done by guns modified in bases and the barring of any weapons. With the proposed, few players would buy from gun shops. A large percentage of the population in the community bases and if every gun is modified to deal 7 damage, then many players would question themselves: buying a 200k Bar will deal 7 damage in the base, if i were to use my starter pistol which can also deal 7 damage in base, what is the point of buying the 200k gun?

A variety of guns and damages actually makes basing more interesting...limiting the damage will just make basing mundane. Apart from that, I doubt anyone would want to buy a gun when they cannot see its maximum firepower when they base. In other words, if things go as proposed, then the maximum firepower of guns can only be used in two areas -Sparring and Killing. This is just like the cars in era whereby the speed of a 3000 gralats car is equivalent to the speed of a 11k gralats car. Same reasoning for the damage stacking point.

Sadly to say, I cannot agree to most of your suggestions.

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Your basicly saying make a base for obs/shrekt. Lol

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basically since you're not good enough ;)

that would completely ruin era in my opinion and wouldn't fix anything

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Originally Posted by Harrio

that would completely ruin era in my opinion and wouldn't fix anything

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True I don't agree with saint bases are meant for the strongest gangs in the game not random people with ak47s that just started playing yesterday.

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I would really like to see a project where a sewer base would be made where you can only use the multiplex gun. This base should be bigger than most bases just an idea so we are able to see a side of skilled basing without high powered guns chems and bars.


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True I don't agree with saint bases are meant for the strongest gangs in the game not random people with ak47s that just started playing yesterday.

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You dont have to agree. I intended to make this a free discussion about this topic and started by sharing Some of mine. But we can all agreed that changes ought to be made which changes specifically is undetermined.

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Close thread? Cause we all know this nonsense won't happen if it did a lot of people would be mad.

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Close thread? Cause we all know this nonsense won't happen if it did a lot of people would be mad.

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Agreed.

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Close thread? Cause we all know this nonsense won't happen if it did a lot of people would be mad.

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No this a thread for opinions and for people to see his ideas