Which gun should I use for sparring?

I'm currently saving up for a BAR to use mainly for sparring, but other players have told me that I should save up for another gun such as the M4. In your opinion, what is the best gun for sparring and why? Personally, I'm looking for a gun that is generally good for sparring; one that reloads quick and has a fair amount of spread. Any answers would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

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Gralats are not an issue here. I know the BAR costs a lot more than the M4, but that doesn't matter. Only the statistics of the guns do.

M4 is garbage now comparing to the other guns
People who tell u to buy the M4 and they don't even use it tell them to go kill themselves

So is the BAR a good choice then? Or perhaps you would suggest another gun?

Yeah bar
Auction guns are even better
Such as
Dual raffica (gotta win twice), mtar, fog, souizen, USP and BAG
The worst auction gun I've ever had/seen was WH64 I don't suggest you to buy it

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Not sure if you play events but ion carbine is really good

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Could save ur $$

I'm saving for ion but I am garbage at events..........ec for me marg

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The thing is too if you use bar you will get ZERO respect when you spar and it will show that you can't spar unless you use bar. I would recommend trying to win auctions like marg said, however I don't think they auction off souizen anymore

Is the bar overpowered or something? Is that why people will hate me for using it?

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Originally Posted by Datura

Is the bar overpowered or something? Is that why people will hate me for using it?

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Ten damage a shot with a twenty clip which is highly spammable.

Summon Jimmy

@JimmyJungle

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I'd use BAR. It's basically what you need, it's like the essential gun for everything.

I also recommend getting other guns such as in Auctions like the Raffica, but you should win two to get dual. Other guns like the M4A3 when you get enough spar wins. Those are side guns to use, creatively after enough BAR use.

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Originally Posted by Zed

I'd use BAR. It's basically what you need, it's like the essential gun for everything.

I also recommend getting other guns such as in Auctions like the Raffica, but you should win two to get dual. Other guns like the M4A3 when you get enough spar wins. Those are side guns to use, creatively after enough BAR use.

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Bar sux

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Originally Posted by imaginary

M4 is garbage now comparing to the other guns
People who tell u to buy the M4 and they don't even use it tell them to go kill themselves
Yeah bar
Auction guns are even better

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I am offended. I used the M4 to get my Vector it is not garbage whatsoever. You obviously don't know how to use it and rely on the cheap auction guns and the bar. Plus, I never see you sparring so how would you know if the M4 has the capability of beating cheap ec, and auction guns. Sorry but there are ion carbine sparrers that almost never beat me when I use the M4. You know why? Cause the M4 requires skill to use, hence why you would describe it as a garbage gun. Sorry but you're info is false and lacks evidence. Also I am very surprised that people would choose the bar in the poll. Only 2 people thought that the M4 is good? Wow you guys obviously do not spar. Sorry but haha there is no counter argument to this :) case closed but the M4. You won't regret it if you actually practice with it. People say when they first get it "I can't win with it so it sucks" which is true it can be hard to win with it when you first get it, but with practice, trust me you could be a beast on spar. Some M4 users are so good that they can beat any gun :)

JungleJimmy is the chosen one

And yeah, no guns sucks except you. They were already nerfed (like BAR) for being too OP.

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Originally Posted by JungleJimmy

I am offended. I used the M4 to get my Vector it is not garbage whatsoever. You obviously don't know how to use it and rely on the cheap auction guns and the bar. Plus, I never see you sparring so how would you know if the M4 has the capability of beating cheap ec, and auction guns. Sorry but there are ion carbine sparrers that almost never beat me when I use the M4. You know why? Cause the M4 requires skill to use, hence why you would describe it as a garbage gun. Sorry but you're info is false and lacks evidence. Also I am very surprised that people would choose the bar in the poll. Only 2 people thought that the M4 is good? Wow you guys obviously do not spar. Sorry but haha there is no counter argument to this :) case closed but the M4. You won't regret it if you actually practice with it. People say when they first get it "I can't win with it so it sucks" which is true it can be hard to win with it when you first get it, but with practice, trust me you could be a beast on spar. Some M4 users are so good that they can beat any gun :)

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If I rarely spar nowadays it doesn't mean I've never sparred nor I know nothing
M4 is dead now get over it and it doesn't make you more pro just like some people think.
I used to use m4 a lot and I used to win a lot with it.
And jimmy you use bar not m4 lol

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Originally Posted by JungleJimmy

I am offended. I used the M4 to get my Vector it is not garbage whatsoever. You obviously don't know how to use it and rely on the cheap auction guns and the bar. Plus, I never see you sparring so how would you know if the M4 has the capability of beating cheap ec, and auction guns. Sorry but there are ion carbine sparrers that almost never beat me when I use the M4. You know why? Cause the M4 requires skill to use, hence why you would describe it as a garbage gun. Sorry but you're info is false and lacks evidence. Also I am very surprised that people would choose the bar in the poll. Only 2 people thought that the M4 is good? Wow you guys obviously do not spar. Sorry but haha there is no counter argument to this :) case closed but the M4. You won't regret it if you actually practice with it. People say when they first get it "I can't win with it so it sucks" which is true it can be hard to win with it when you first get it, but with practice, trust me you could be a beast on spar. Some M4 users are so good that they can beat any gun :)

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M4 is trash compard to bar and stuff

Bar is a better overall gun...for pking, basing and sparring. I know a lot of people will hate you if you use it but it cause they die so fast.

I lose alot of respect for those who pk and spar with bar

Use whatever gun you feel comfortable with.

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Originally Posted by hohi416

I lose alot of respect for those who pk and spar with bar

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And most people who rage are the ones with m4a3 and vector..like??????
Lmao

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Tbh I enable pms and public chat for friends only when I spar

Use the BAR to trigger angry little sparrers.

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Originally Posted by hohi416

I lose alot of respect for those who pk and spar with bar

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Why would people want your respect though. Who plays this game for respect.

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Originally Posted by Forseti

Use the BAR to trigger angry little sparrers.



Why would people want your respect though. Who plays this game for respect.

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lol, funny

I suggest m4. Everyone has it and it's good in my opinion but people are abusing Bar In spar where they get quick wins just so they can get vector. If they use bar then, they're trash.

Lmao you guys telling him to bar spar! rip man just be ready for the hate

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Originally Posted by Czar Misago

Lmao you guys telling him to bar spar! rip man just be ready for the hate

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And why would he get hate for using the bar? Maybe because it's op?

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

And why would he get hate for using the bar? Maybe because it's op?

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No, because noobs rage when they lose to the skill of someone using bar. Don't turn this into something Sam.

BAR is great to spar with but its not exactly a good style for multi use gun sparring... I prefer semi auto guns that can actually Place attacks instead of hoping for an automatic to hit someone. BAR's freeze is insane, its enough time to get killed in spar in close calls. I don't have a gun of recommendation but I loved when i used Scar-H because every shot made would hit (But has slow fire rate) and the hit timer when I used it was OP. Guns like that I recommend. Its 82.k (as Ive seen last time on Trivia). I would even go as far as the SCAR-H having the same hit timer as starter guns. Starter gun freeze is insanity i tell you, put that in BAR (like in the past) and it would automatically become OP. High hit timers are the best for this era of sparrers because most spam their gun (and rely on impatience of the opponent to win).
This is my observation, may not apply to everyone.

Yea the Scar-H is good for sparring from what I seen.

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

And why would he get hate for using the bar? Maybe because it's op?

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Not even close just people lose to it and cry about bar sparrers. I actually find I do better with m4 than bar just because the freeze when shooting. Nice try though, I think they say A for effort??

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Originally Posted by Czar Misago

Not even close just people lose to it and cry about bar sparrers. I actually find I do better with m4 than bar just because the freeze when shooting. Nice try though, I think they say A for effort??

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You're trying to avoid the truth so hard. You're missing the point, why do people cry about bar spammers specifically? There are other guns that spam as much if not more.

The reason why people specifically don't like BARs in spar is because they are so strong and don't take a lot of skill to win. As someone else mentioned people use it for "quick wins in spar to get the vector".

Since you like to compare BAR to m4 so much lets loo at the stats.
BAR has 0.005 more freeze than the M4 which is next to nothing, at the trade off of being 0.06 faster. Which is a pretty significant different. Along with that the BAR also has 5 more bullets and of course does 10 damage. If you honestly don't think the BAR is op then you must not play the game

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

You're trying to avoid the truth so hard. You're missing the point, why do people cry about bar spammers specifically? There are other guns that spam as much if not more.

The reason why people specifically don't like BARs in spar is because they are so strong and don't take a lot of skill to win. As someone else mentioned people use it for "quick wins in spar to get the vector".

Since you like to compare BAR to m4 so much lets loo at the stats.
BAR has 0.005 more freeze than the M4 which is next to nothing, at the trade off of being 0.06 faster. Which is a pretty significant different. Along with that the BAR also has 5 more bullets and of course does 10 damage. If you honestly don't think the BAR is op then you must not play the game

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If bar is so OP then why doesn't everyone use it in spar? If its that good then people would use it? Except it's not and the thing you seem to not quite understand is PREFERENCE! you always wanna compare stats did you ever think that the little difference in freeze makes a big difference to me? No because you only care about what you want.


Like in Multiplex, I use 5 freeze 5 rof. Could I use 6 freeze and 4 rof? Sure is it the same? No. But is it close? Yes, but I still prefer 5-5

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Originally Posted by Czar Misago

If bar is so OP then why doesn't everyone use it in spar? If its that good then people would use it? Except it's not and the thing you seem to not quite understand is PREFERENCE! you always wanna compare stats did you ever think that the little difference in freeze makes a big difference to me? No because you only care about what you want.


Like in Multiplex, I use 5 freeze 5 rof. Could I use 6 freeze and 4 rof? Sure is it the same? No. But is it close? Yes, but I still prefer 5-5

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You are fighting Bitzsam, thee Gun Admin who creates and edits stats on guns, not only you are challenging him, but you are also saying that YOU know the game and guns better than the creator. Your argument died long ago. Please, stop boasting about your "supposed" gun skill dominates the game. Awesome, you can move your fingers on point. That doesn't get you anywhere in life. I'm really disappointed in this kind of talk back to people that are staff especially in this context of a regular ol player saying I know my stats better than you Gun admin.

Don't respond Czar, only read because I won't be responding.

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Originally Posted by Jayden-Jair

You are fighting Bitzsam, thee Gun Admin who creates and edits stats on guns, not only you are challenging him, but you are also saying that YOU know the game and guns better than the creator. Your argument died long ago. Please, stop boasting about your "supposed" gun skill dominates the game. Awesome, you can move your fingers on point. That doesn't get you anywhere in life. I'm really disappointed in this kind of talk back to people that are staff especially in this context of a regular ol player saying I know my stats better than you Gun admin.

Don't respond Czar, only read because I won't be responding.

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So yet another person riding him simply because hes an admin. Lol, not once in that last response did I ever say I knew stats better than him. Also I did not even brag about being skill based, yet another assumption, maybe you should be the one reading and not responding because at this point I question if you ever even think before clicking that submit button. Also about moving fingers around, don't you also play the game? lmao???

Buy BAR if you want to be the lowest lifeform on the iera server.

Serious, BAR spam in spar is ridiculous. I'd suggest M4, Sten, and Souizen if you want to be looked upon as a skillful player.

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Originally Posted by Gabipants

Buy BAR if you want to be the lowest lifeform on the iera server.

Serious, BAR spam in spar is ridiculous. I'd suggest M4, Sten, and Souizen if you want to be looked upon as a skillful player.

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You can be a skill-full player by using bar.
You can also beat a person using bar easily, I have done it and others have as well.

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Originally Posted by Jayden-Jair

You are fighting Bitzsam, thee Gun Admin who creates and edits stats on guns, not only you are challenging him, but you are also saying that YOU know the game and guns better than the creator. Your argument died long ago. Please, stop boasting about your "supposed" gun skill dominates the game. Awesome, you can move your fingers on point. That doesn't get you anywhere in life. I'm really disappointed in this kind of talk back to people that are staff especially in this context of a regular ol player saying I know my stats better than you Gun admin.

Don't respond Czar, only read because I won't be responding.

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bitz diehard fan

BAR is straight up better. It's very powerful and versatile but, wins can be a little cheap in small spar rooms.
People just don't use it much because it's less skillful, i don't use it as i prefer guns with lower freeze (ion carbine, ripper, in spar mode, etc).
You seem new to spar, as you're unsure about which gun is better, so I'd suggest getting a bar, so at least you have a chance vs vector/m4a3/ion/mp5/auction gun users. Sure it's less skillful, but it's good to base and pk with too. Just switch to a 9dmg spar gun in future once you improve, if you want to focus on skill + keep people happy

Best gun would be PDW SD because i have personally won bitzsam when mp5 was out

PDW SD is good from what I seen in spar

Steal your moms credit card for auctions.

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Originally Posted by Band1t

Steal your moms credit card for auctions.

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U first nob

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Originally Posted by junz

BAR is straight up better. It's very powerful and versatile but, wins can be a little cheap in small spar rooms.
People just don't use it much because it's less skillful, i don't use it as i prefer guns with lower freeze (ion carbine, ripper, in spar mode, etc).
You seem new to spar, as you're unsure about which gun is better, so I'd suggest getting a bar, so at least you have a chance vs vector/m4a3/ion/mp5/auction gun users. Sure it's less skillful, but it's good to base and pk with too. Just switch to a 9dmg spar gun in future once you improve, if you want to focus on skill + keep people happy

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SMALL SPAR ROOMS!! in other rooms that require dodging bar gets rekt by guns as low as an m4