Gangs Base tournament BGT

Just an idea that came on my mind while boringly playing graal era
I was thinking why always gang spar tournament as there is nothing else important than sparring or anything else to have a tournament made for it.

Ok so its a base tournament the gangs will be given days as much as many basses in the map everyday 1 base randomly will be chosen thus all gangs should base there in order to gain hours.(note only the chosen base that day can get you hours to qualify) and so on the next day a new base will be chosen the base that has been already rolled out will be excluded.

After every 2 hours the base will be taken by any staff online at that time to kick all players out so all start equally from scratch this to prevent camping etc.

The top 8 gangs with most hours in total will be qualified. Each gang leader should choose 13 members as main and 11 as sub the names that been chosen by the leader will be allowed to enter the arena or base, any other unchosen name will not be allowed to enter, The maximum space a gang can have is 14 members. 13 member and the leader.

A special arena or base will be made out for the event contains 4 flags and the end of the first day 4 gangs will be qualified and 4 will be excluded the 2nd day the flags will be decreased to 2 flags
That day 2 will be excluded and 2 will remain the last and final day the flags will be taken to 1 flag the winner will be crowned as the strongest basing gang!!!

Some questions with answers, you can ask down if I didn?t cover all your questions.

Q} What if the leader went offline can he be replaced?
A} No,you will have to play with 13.

Q} What if a member went offline can he be replaced?
A} Yes,anyone with recruit power can invite anyone from the sub
members that been chosen.

Q} What if un registered player want to join the gang and enter can
he join the gangs and enter the base or the arena what about if
he is registered by another leader under a different gang tag
and decided to join another gang can he?
A} No,only registered members under the chosen gang tag can
enter using it.

Q} what if a gang got caught cheating what will happen to the
gang?
A} Automatically excluded and the players that cheated will be
banned 2 years from the GBT, we always looking for a fair play.

Q} What is the prizes and until what rank the gangs will be
rewarded?
A} It will be valuable prizes I cannot decide staff only can but top 4
gangs will be rewarded 3rd and 4th will have the same prizes
equal.

Q} How will the tournament mechanism go?
A} The battles will be played in 3 days, 1st day 4 will qualify and 4
will leave and the 2nd day 2 will qualify and 2 will leave and the
3rd day will be the final, The days can be either continuously
with no day between but I strongly suggest to have days
between for the gangs to have rest since it will be 24h battle!!
So like 2 days after 1st day and 4 days rest after the 2nd day.

Q} Why gangs are given days as much as basses exists in the
map?
A} So the gang that is homing the base wont have the upper hand
and would be forced to play in other basses and secure it.



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i honestly really like it. gang wars are already a big thing. so imagine all these gangs competing. i would really love to see this streamed. great idea, pretty fleshed out.


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This seems like a pretty thought out and concise idea, however my biggest concern is that this could become just a smaller GST, in which we already see many basing gangs form teams for, which would just go to benefit the same group of players on the top rather than the vast majority of players who I believe don?t have the resources to compete by themselves. I?m not necessarily saying someone is going to abuse this event, however I have the sneaking suspicion that we?re going to see many of the same faces reappear year after year to collect the prizes.


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This seems like a pretty thought out and concise idea, however my biggest concern is that this could become just a smaller GST, in which we already see many basing gangs form teams for, which would just go to benefit the same group of players on the top rather than the vast majority of players who I believe don?t have the resources to compete by themselves. I?m not necessarily saying someone is going to abuse this event, however I have the sneaking suspicion that we?re going to see many of the same faces reappear year after year to collect the prizes.


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Will the best wins how would they abuse when every gang will be fighting over 1 base at the same time remember there is staff who will be taking the base after each 2 hours and it won?t be smaller than Gst I believe this would be greater and the greatest event !!! more than 50% percent of era is based on basing i am a baser and i know what i am saying matter fact GBT will be taught and will require hard work more than Gst does! Also the subs can deal damage to main so where would the help come from and also this event will create new gangs and build new gangs and help gangs to grow more. Imagine all the gangs warring and fighting for 11 days continuously over 1 base and each day a new base to qualify I don?t think there would ever be a time to help each other.
Also i wanted to mention earlier if 2 gangs caught helping each other will be definitely automatically disqualified since this will be called boosting in base war system so yea same as gst gangs helped each other to qualify they both get disqualified for boosting


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Originally Posted by Beo

Will the best wins how would they abuse when every gang will be fighting over 1 base at the same time remember there is staff who will be taking the base after each 2 hours and it won?t be smaller than Gst I believe this would be greater and the greatest event !!! more than 50% percent of era is based on basing i am a baser and i know what i am saying matter fact GBT will be taught and will require hard work more than Gst does! Also the subs can deal damage to main so where would the help come from and also this event will create new gangs and build new gangs and help gangs to grow more. Imagine all the gangs warring and fighting for 11 days continuously over 1 base and each day a new base to qualify I don?t think there would ever be a time to help each other.
Also i wanted to mention earlier if 2 gangs caught helping each other will be definitely automatically disqualified since this will be called boosting in base war system so yea same as gst gangs helped each other to qualify they both get disqualified for boosting


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My only problem is that this event seems to only benefit a certain category of players who coincidentally also benefit from events such as GST. Generally, I have no issue with rewarding the players who spend a lot of their time and money playing the game to become as good as they are. However, I believe it would be more beneficial to introduce special events that more casual players could find themselves playing, which would help the community grow and keep the game we love around for longer which would benefit us all in the long run.


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Originally Posted by Thorn

My only problem is that this event seems to only benefit a certain category of players who coincidentally also benefit from events such as GST. Generally, I have no issue with rewarding the players who spend a lot of their time and money playing the game to become as good as they are. However, I believe it would be more beneficial to introduce special events that more casual players could find themselves playing, which would help the community grow and keep the game we love around for longer which would benefit us all in the long run.


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Well there is no many variations like the 2 heads are basing and then comes spar, before there was a way to qualify by basing now there is no way to qualify by basing hours.Yet basing tend to be the most popular thing on graal era (my opinion) and it would be greatly welcomed to have an event for it you see a great events only created to where the most players are focused on yet i am amazed they never came with a basing tournament maybe they didn?t have the idea so i came with one hopefully it get applied and worked on.


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Originally Posted by Beo

Well there is no many variations like the 2 heads are basing and then comes spar, before there was a way to qualify by basing now there is no way to qualify by basing hours.Yet basing tend to be the most popular thing on graal era (my opinion) and it would be greatly welcomed to have an event for it you see a great events only created to where the most players are focused on yet i am amazed they never came with a basing tournament maybe they didn?t have the idea so i came with one hopefully it get applied and worked on.


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The issue with that argument is that basing is somewhat dual sided as players are awarded kills when killing enemy basers inside of a base which gives them progress towards their pk rewards individually. This is then on top of giving gangs rewards for being able to hold bases for certain periods of time. When you look at sparring, the individual aspect of sparring for individual stats is still there, however there are no special rewards given out to gangs that win in gang spars. Because of this, it seems that GST is the equivalent to basing gang rewards while being formatted into a more competitive style.


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Originally Posted by Thorn

The issue with that argument is that basing is somewhat dual sided as players are awarded kills when killing enemy basers inside of a base which gives them progress towards their pk rewards individually. This is then on top of giving gangs rewards for being able to hold bases for certain periods of time. When you look at sparring, the individual aspect of sparring for individual stats is still there, however there are no special rewards given out to gangs that win in gang spars. Because of this, it seems that GST is the equivalent to basing gang rewards while being formatted into a more competitive style.


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Well basing and spar is way different sparring is solo basing requires group and 24h work while spar dosnt you see the difference thats why basing rewards tend to be greater than sparring also spar all you need to obtain the prizes is to get wins kill a player in dual 1 v 1 inside an arena no matter your losses so basically you can keep joining get wins easily but it dosnt require a hard work to obtain the prizes same goes to the prizes also something else to mention spar and pking goes to your personal status while Basing hours dosnt go to your status the mechanics of each is way different to compare them with each other,base requires way more effort creating a gang leading 25 players finding the right ranks covering the full day time zones recruiting members, defending , attacking , at a war , securing , and keeping a track on players and perms there is more but that?s enough to show how basing work out now you know why the is difference in rewards

The GBT it self will be a pressure not an easy event as you think idk if you know what is war but when it happens between just 2 gangs it turns to a fire now make the 2 gangs not just 2 no unlimited fighting each its more competitive and epic.
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Originally Posted by Beo

Well basing and spar is way different sparring is solo basing requires group and 24h work while spar dosnt you see the difference thats why basing rewards tend to be greater than sparring also spar all you need to obtain the prizes is to get wins kill a player in dual 1 v 1 inside an arena no matter your losses so basically you can keep joining get wins easily but it dosnt require a hard work to obtain the prizes same goes to the prizes also something else to mention spar and pking goes to your personal status while Basing hours dosnt go to your status the mechanics of each is way different to compare them with each other,base requires way more effort creating a gang leading 25 players finding the right ranks covering the full day time zones recruiting members, defending , attacking , at a war , securing , and keeping a track on players and perms there is more but that?s enough to show how basing work out now you know why the is difference in rewards



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I?m not trying to demerit the effort that goes into basing, however you?re comparing basing directly to solo sparring. What I?m arguing is that solo sparring to practice for GST does just what pking inside a base does, it raises the individual stats as well as progresses the player towards the Pk and Spar rewards which do take time to acquire.

The amount of effort a leader puts into his basing gang to initially start it up as well as deal with things like wars is great, however I believe you?re exaggerating the 24 hour timeframe as the majority of gangs have shifts in a base rather than having the full time, but I?m sure those select few gangs who actually do have full time on top of holding multiple bases such as M2S do put a significant amount of effort into controlling their territory. With this in mind though, you have to consider the amount of work that sparring leaders have to put into their gangs in order to host a good starting roster on top of substitutes for the GST, which is more competitive in nature compared to basing in general.

In essence you can consider it like this:
Basing rewards are more prominent because of the consistency it takes in order to reach those checkpoints, however the GST is a competitive event meant to reward the best gang sparrers in the game. Both of these features are meant to reward groups of hard working players but do so in different ways.


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I?m not trying to demerit the effort that goes into basing, however you?re comparing basing directly to solo sparring. What I?m arguing is that solo sparring to practice for GST does just what pking inside a base does, it raises the individual stats as well as progresses the player towards the Pk and Spar rewards which do take time to acquire.

The amount of effort a leader puts into his basing gang to initially start it up as well as deal with things like wars is great, however I believe you?re exaggerating the 24 hour timeframe as the majority of gangs have shifts in a base rather than having the full time, but I?m sure those select few gangs who actually do have full time on top of holding multiple bases such as M2S do put a significant amount of effort into controlling their territory. With this in mind though, you have to consider the amount of work that sparring leaders have to put into their gangs in order to host a good starting roster on top of substitutes for the GST, which is more competitive in nature compared to basing in general.

In essence you can consider it like this:
Basing rewards are more prominent because of the consistency it takes in order to reach those checkpoints, however the GST is a competitive event meant to reward the best gang sparrers in the game. Both of these features are meant to reward groups of hard working players but do so in different ways.


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Now you are comparing a huge event with daily basing is enough to show that base is really big thing however i am sorry you got to know basing the wrong way i am not exaggerating but you either you a new player or when u got introduced to the base you were introduced when basing is probably dying out and gangs doing shifts etc.

Talking about the effort that being done well of corse there is a great effort that is done by leaders in gst but this is to happen for what a month is nothing when u compare this as a daily task in basing just don?t compare event with base each is individual you cannot compare or take base as a backup for gst reason there is events like crypt to give you the same rewards as base does end of discussion , can?t compare 2 different things with each other spar is spar base is base and events are events



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Originally Posted by Beo

Now you are comparing a huge event with daily basing is enough to show that base is really big thing however i am sorry you got to know basing the wrong way i am not exaggerating but you either you a new player or when u got introduced to the base you were introduced when basing is probably dying out and gangs doing shifts etc.

Talking about the effort that being done well of corse there is a great effort that is done by leaders in gst but this is to happen for what a month is nothing when u compare this as a daily task in basing just don?t compare event with base each is individual you cannot compare or take base as a backup for gst reason there is events like crypt to give you the same rewards as base does end of discussion , can?t compare 2 different things with each other spar is spar base is base and events are events



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Clearly you?re not seeing the reason to my argument. To give a specific example, the gang you belong to, Grim Reapers, had a mostly uncontested base at Tachi for the grand majority of your hours. It?s logical to say that most of those hours weren?t work intensive and all someone really had to do was make sure a rank was on. It wasn?t until the end of the Grim Reaper era where Duke decided to war you in which leading became intense and difficult. In many cases, the majority of basing is just sitting in the base waiting for something to come if anything. The situation you describe us less referencing to this but rather the old style of basing where gangs didn?t simply have shifts but had to move around and work for their hours. You even break your previous point about how Basing is popular by injecting that it?s ?dying out?.
It would be preferred if you were to stop glorifying basing and to realize how much it really is fair. Basing is prolonged and thus there are many rewards for it and they?re not as contested while there are multiple bases. In GST, gangs can prepare for up to months and have to grind specific spars out in order to contend, all while in the end only the top three gangs truly get prizes.


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Clearly you?re not seeing the reason to my argument. To give a specific example, the gang you belong to, Grim Reapers, had a mostly uncontested base at Tachi for the grand majority of your hours. It?s logical to say that most of those hours weren?t work intensive and all someone really had to do was make sure a rank was on. It wasn?t until the end of the Grim Reaper era where Duke decided to war you in which leading became intense and difficult. In many cases, the majority of basing is just sitting in the base waiting for something to come if anything. The situation you describe us less referencing to this but rather the old style of basing where gangs didn?t simply have shifts but had to move around and work for their hours. You even break your previous point about how Basing is popular by injecting that it?s ?dying out?.
It would be preferred if you were to stop glorifying basing and to realize how much it really is fair. Basing is prolonged and thus there are many rewards for it and they?re not as contested while there are multiple bases. In GST, gangs can prepare for up to months and have to grind specific spars out in order to contend, all while in the end only the top three gangs truly get prizes.


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It?s important and it?s dying the way it?s runs right now and i hate when a new player talks about something without knowing the past you have just heard and you are talking! almost all era warred Grim not duke himself only so when u want to speak out Something either say it all or don?t I won?t talk more coz I don?t have to argue plus before that how Grim the strongest gang got created we use to move from base to base control it we never camped until the base ways forced us to do tho now you know.
Back to the headline i am not glorifying Base but i am suggesting an event your issue was that same people would win the prizes every year and that won?t happen as the gangs that are basing becoming less this event would help it to be revived once again creat new gangs and making small gangs to appear and grow . Gst has nothing to do with spare anyway many top sparers bad at team work and when they come in gst they ain?t that good matter fact always basers get the upper hand in this event because they know how to defend attack hide and shoot as its the basics of basing . Yet your core point is that base dosnt need an event that contains prizes because they already have enough prizes which is the reason you arguing for. People love events and so we try to entertain them by such big events like Gst and more to be done in future.


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It?s important and it?s dying the way it?s runs right now and i hate when a new player talks about something without knowing the past you have just heard and you are talking! almost all era warred Grim not duke himself only so when u want to speak out Something either say it all or don?t I won?t talk more coz I don?t have to argue plus before that how Grim the strongest gang got created we use to move from base to base control it we never camped until the base ways forced us to do tho now you know.
Back to the headline i am not glorifying Base but i am suggesting an event your issue was that same people would win the prizes every year and that won?t happen as the gangs that are basing becoming less this event would help it to be revived once again creat new gangs and making small gangs to appear and grow . Gst has nothing to do with spare anyway many top sparers bad at team work and when they come in gst they ain?t that good matter fact always basers get the upper hand in this event because they know how to defend attack hide and shoot as its the basics of basing . Yet your core point is that base dosnt need an event that contains prizes because they already have enough prizes which is the reason you arguing for. People love events and so we try to entertain them by such big events like Gst and more to be done in future.


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Stop trying to act as if I don?t exactly know what Basing is to make my argument sizable, in the end your precious gang was glued to tachi and got inevitably pummeled because for the majority of your time you held Tachi uncontestedly. Maybe if your gang really was the ?strongest gang? then the gang you created to try to rebuild your legacy wouldn?t be in the garbage like it is now.
As for your point about how GST isn?t like spar, THATS EXACTLY THE POINT, it mirrors the relationship between pking and basing. If anything, the fact that many sparrers don?t initially have the teamwork to field a good team further contributes to the fact that these players put in so much effort to field their teams. As for general basing, it is clear that it is more of an elitist oligarchy rather than a core game feature. By holding main bases, the current gangs are able to attract more players which inevitably cements themselves into the base. And this is without noting how there are sprees of ?new? gangs taking bases from retired gangs, however you see the game group of players just on another tag, which happened in cases like Decade, Candy, Equality, Velocity (until 2k). The chances of someone outside the current basing and sparring community being able to even compete in this tournament are scarce when you consider how little recourses they have to work with compared to the titans.


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Stop trying to act as if I don?t exactly know what Basing is to make my argument sizable, in the end your precious gang was glued to tachi and got inevitably pummeled because for the majority of your time you held Tachi uncontestedly. Maybe if your gang really was the ?strongest gang? then the gang you created to try to rebuild your legacy wouldn?t be in the garbage like it is now.
As for your point about how GST isn?t like spar, THATS EXACTLY THE POINT, it mirrors the relationship between pking and basing. If anything, the fact that many sparrers don?t initially have the teamwork to field a good team further contributes to the fact that these players put in so much effort to field their teams. As for general basing, it is clear that it is more of an elitist oligarchy rather than a core game feature. By holding main bases, the current gangs are able to attract more players which inevitably cements themselves into the base. And this is without noting how there are sprees of ?new? gangs taking bases from retired gangs, however you see the game group of players just on another tag, which happened in cases like Decade, Candy, Equality, Velocity (until 2k). The chances of someone outside the current basing and sparring community being able to even compete in this tournament are scarce when you consider how little recourses they have to work with compared to the titans.


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Don?t talk trash please! if you can?t argue politely get out my gang got stolen or he took over it and didn?t return so what garbage also i have no time anymore to play this game much as before dealing with college and life so I dropped the game for a better life but sure if I ever got the gang back i will rebuild it

Lets get in the topic why do you think that only the big gangs would participate no new gangs hence there is good players welling and waiting to start their own gang and take their chances but conditions ain?t with them since all the gangs do peace each other and so they have no chance when the GBT starts no more peace they all will be fighting over 1 base i hope you can imagine the situation before the judge and i am pretty sure new gangs they will participate but they might fail that happens even in GST have you seen people out of base or spar community entering or getting their gang registered in gst no all of them from spar/base community same will go for GBT and yea this events aren?t meant for traders and those who do jobs and dig its an event that requires guns and skills and fighting which is pretty obvious why only sparers and basers only participate in such events.


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