Jail. The issues.

This is not a thread asking to be unjailed. I could really care less about that. This is about the abuse of powers from staff members, and their bias towards certain players. So a few months ago I got jailed for sexual harassment but the thing is I was not sexually harassing anyone. I was having a conversation with Sophie Canavi. Being the stupid mixed american I am I said, " I would love to have an orgy with British women. Their accents are just the hottest thing." Keep in mind that the comment was never directed to her. I never said "I want you to be one of them" I dont even know what the girl looks like. Anyways Sophie replied with, "LMAOOO" and before I knew it I was jailed 3 minutes after. Now i am not saying that Sophie Jailed me, but she told her friend Gentu or someone else that I was falsely harassing her. If she truly had a problem with my comment she could have said so or blocked me. Now here comes the hypocrisy. Sophie had her status as "If Bruce Jenner was a superhero would he be a transformer or an Ex men" So the admin who reported me for sexual harassment has the audacity to sexually harass transgenders by making it out to be a joke and no admin saw it fit to give her the proper consequence? Well thats just amazing. I guess being a good role model for younger players is not required as staff. Now enough of Sophie. here another issue

Yesterday night I was jailed for calling someone a ne**o. Obviously this was not acceptable and i believe that i was rightly jailed and deserve my 15 hours. However, The jail was because racist comment in PMS, but what i dont understand is why the other person who reported was not jailed also? He called me a racist fu**** and a white cracker. If the admin was reading the PMS they should have seen his racist comments towards me( I'm not even white. Im Haitian and Austrian ye). So the admin who jailed me should receive a punishment. Its obvious they were being bias towards me and thats why i was the only one punished.

This thread is not bashing anyone so there is no reason for it to be closed. I just think you should do a better job at managing your staff.

If you don't want to be jailed don't do the following:
1- don't break the rules.
2- don't be racist.
3- don't talk to strange girls, especially about love and so.
4- mind your own business.
5- don't use in-game chat or pms to say illegal stuff.
6- be polite.
7- think twice before talking.
Hope this helps in the future.

Forums isn't the place to discuss jails nor staff issues. Please submit a ticket

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Originally Posted by Ires

If you don't want to be jailed don't do the following:
1- don't break the rules.
2- don't be racist.
3- don't talk to strange girls, especially about love and so.
4- mind your own business.
5- don't use in-game chat or pms to say illegal stuff.
6- be polite.
7- think before talking.
Hope this helps in the future.

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Try reading next time:

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyFreeze

Obviously this was not acceptable and i believe that i was rightly jailed and deserve my 15 hours.

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I haven't the faintest clue whether Sophie is or is not a staff member but if she is, such a status is so childish no matter your stance on Transgender people, so I can faintly see where you're coming from.
In regards to the PM situation, it's a matter of who reports who.

Here's how it works:

x reports y
Both x and Y were using bad words.
Since x reported y, the admin checks PM's RECEIVED by "X" only!
Admin notices a lot of profanity towards X from Y.
Y is jailed.

They can't see the dialogue between the players but only the Pm's received by a player at any given time, so it's not entirely the admins fault, as I'm assuming they thought you were the only one being racist due to the report, which obviously was not the case.

Best you can do is submit a ticket the toonslab support site.

As bulletzone said, we basically just read the most recent PMs of a player. We can’t see the entire exchange between you two unless we open both pm histories, and even then, there would be a lot of switching and reopening since we can only read one persons at a time.

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Originally Posted by Titothefirst

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If you read correctly you would be able to see that i said I dont care about being unjailed

Nowadays players be saying sexist stuff ingame and then when they get punished they say they weren’t saying it directly to anyone. Yet they know that they disrespected a whole gender.

Wether you meant it or not. What you said was very inappropriate and you deserve the warning you received.

@ racism part. When someone calls you names or whatever through pms you don’t constantly reply you’ll just make the comment disappear on the PR’s screen since they can only see the latest 10 msgs. However if they seen the comments and didn’t warn them then yeah that’s a huge mistake

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Originally Posted by Bulletzone

Try reading next time:

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I already read it.

Admins don't have supernatural powers to know what's going on inside that brain of yours, therefor if they saw you say that to a some girl they'll think you're trying to sexually harass her. And that girl maybe didn't like it and went to report. It happens when people report immediately without a warning.

Stuff members will get fired immediately if they are caught abusing their powers, so they have to use them correctly.

Also I would like to tell you that there are alot of stuff considered as sexual harassment, you may search them up on google.

FYI: Sophie isn't staff + that status of hers was added after she was removed from staff though I'm pretty sure she's had it before also between her two times becoming PR Staff.

Staff members are allowed to use the report button if they are on their ios account. If the comment bothered her she had the right to do so just like any other player since that was sexual harassment even if it was a joke. Also about the report issue, The other player could have been warned for vulgarity. Vulgarity warns aren't instant jails until you have 3 or more while racism leads to an instant jail. Another factor could be that the PM of the racial comment was erased since only a certain amount of pms are logged.

I don?t think any of you understand what sexual harassment is. I was not harassing her in any sexual way. Think of this in a real life situation. Would you press charges against someone for saying that? No, you wouldnt because they were not harassing you. Even if you did the court wouldnt even accept the case because its not harassment. To harass someone you would have to directly relate it to them. I never mentioned anything with her name in it.

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If staff only read one side of the PMS then your whole system is rigged and you need to fix it. Theres two sides to a story all the time. Basing your punishment off one is not the right thing to do.

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Originally Posted by Ires

I already read it.

Admins don't have supernatural powers to know what's going on inside that brain of yours, therefor if they saw you say that to a some girl they'll think you're trying to sexually harass her. And that girl maybe didn't like it and went to report. It happens when people report immediately without a warning.

Stuff members will get fired immediately if they are caught abusing their powers, so they have to use them correctly.

Also I would like to tell you that there are alot of stuff considered as sexual harassment, you may search them up on google.

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An orgy is not directly sexual. It may just mean a party. I never said sex in the convo at all. Just orgy. Did i say staff were supernatural? Matter of fact I think half of them just live on the internet. They do not have to be supernatural to be able to see the word "sex" was never mentioned in the convo nor as anything directly sexual was said to her.

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Originally Posted by TJ Canavi

Staff members are allowed to use the report button if they are on their ios account. If the comment bothered her she had the right to do so just like any other player since that was sexual harassment even if it was a joke. Also about the report issue, The other player could have been warned for vulgarity. Vulgarity warns aren't instant jails until you have 3 or more while racism leads to an instant jail. Another factor could be that the PM of the racial comment was erased since only a certain amount of pms are logged before.

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I never said it was a joke. i meant what i said lol..and already accomplished it to ;). Shout out to the Brits and Germans<3.
Also I never said she couldnt use the report button. I dont think you're grasping the concept of what i am trying to say here. I'm saying she abused her role as staff to get another staff to falsely jail me for something that was never directly related to her.

1- she wouldn't have reported if she didn't feel harassed.
2- I personally read both ends of the PMs
3- as you stated about you being jailed and not the other guy who used vulgarity, sexual harassment is an immediate jail after a warn, as for vulgarity it's 3 warns for a jail, meaning he might've been warned for vulgarity without you knowing and since he wasn't warned before, he didn't get jailed.
4- don't expect staff to read your own mind while reading the pms, they see something bad, they assume it's bad without the thought of "what if it's a joke or he didn't mean it" because you were reported, meaning you did something even if it was falsely or a troll report.

Try submitting a ticket bro. Happened to me once by careless staff I was getting harassed and I reported without even replying and we both got jailed but thankfully I submitted a ticket right away, and I got unjailed with matter of hours. Staff these days just abuse powers and could careless about player experience.

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Originally Posted by failure

As bulletzone said, we basically just read the most recent PMs of a player. We can?t see the entire exchange between you two unless we open both pm histories, and even then, there would be a lot of switching and reopening since we can only read one persons at a time.

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the system only allows one side to be monitored?! wtf isn't that unfair? this is why we always see false jail accusses here cause of the faulty jail system that was poorly made, we clearly have every capability to fix and renew the jailing system

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyFreeze

An orgy is not directly sexual. It may just mean a party. I never said sex in the convo at all. Just orgy. Did i say staff were supernatural? Matter of fact I think half of them just live on the internet. They do not have to be supernatural to be able to see the word "sex" was never mentioned in the convo nor as anything directly sexual was said to her.

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I understand all of your other points and some of them are valid but about this one:

definition of orgy from google:

a wild party characterized by excessive drinking and indiscriminate sexual activity.

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Originally Posted by Bulletzone

Try reading next time:


I haven't the faintest clue whether Sophie is or is not a staff member but if she is, such a status is so childish no matter your stance on Transgender people, so I can faintly see where you're coming from.
In regards to the PM situation, it's a matter of who reports who.

Here's how it works:

x reports y
Both x and Y were using bad words.
Since x reported y, the admin checks PM's RECEIVED by "X" only!
Admin notices a lot of profanity towards X from Y.
Y is jailed.

They can't see the dialogue between the players but only the Pm's received by a player at any given time, so it's not entirely the admins fault, as I'm assuming they thought you were the only one being racist due to the report, which obviously was not the case.

Best you can do is submit a ticket the toonslab support site.

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PRs will always check PM history of the person who was reported AND of the person who is reporting.

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Originally Posted by Mikel

PRs will always check PM history of the person who was reported AND of the person who is reporting.

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Originally Posted by Joeyaudi1

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Don?t know if you can read or not Joey but I did say he called me a white cracker. A cracker is a racial slur to white people. You trying to justify this mistake shows how selfless and inconsiderate some staff are. Thank you for furthermore proving my point<3

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4- don't expect staff to read your own mind while reading the pms, they see something bad, they assume it's bad without the thought of "what if it's a joke or he didn't mean it" because you were reported, meaning you did something even if it was falsely or a troll report.

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Basically what you?re saying Joey is that staff will choose a punishment just from their perspective rather than investigating? Well at least the era community knows this bullsh** now

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I still don?t think any of you know what harassment is. To say I harassed her is absurd.
?An isolated incident is not harassment ? the behavior must be repetitious? For a staff you sure lack basic knowledge. Not only that but it was never directed to her. The proper punishment should have been an inappropriate sexual comment, which I would have been fine with. The issue here is to show that she was using her position to accuse me of hogwash.

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Also is it just me or is everyone?s parentheses, hyphens, and apostrophes turned into question marks

There’s no “inappropriate sexual comment” category so it’ll fall under sexual harassment. Maybe next time think before making inappropriate comments I guess?

Don’t twist Joey’s words. No pr should be like “oh this guy who has been reported for using the n word is clearly joking. Nope I won’t warn him!”. Not everyone knows you. No one knows what’s going in ur mind so
No one will “misunderstand” you if you used the proper words and sentences

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Originally Posted by imaginary

There?s no ?inappropriate sexual comment? category so it?ll fall under sexual harassment. Maybe next time think before making inappropriate comments I guess?

Don?t twist Joey?s words. No pr should be like ?oh this guy who has been reported for using the n word is clearly joking. Nope I won?t warn him!?. Not everyone knows you. No one knows what?s going in ur mind so
No one will ?misunderstand? you if you used the proper words and sentences

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Are you dumb imaginary? Did I say I was joking about using the N word? I clearly said I deserve my punishment but the other person should be jailed to. He was using racial slurs as well. The problem here is not getting in jail or to prove I?m joking. It?s to show that staff hardly treat everyone the same. My jail was obviously biased and the other kid should be jailed too

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyFreeze

Are you dumb imaginary? Did I say I was joking about using the N word? I clearly said I deserve my punishment but the other person should be jailed to. He was using racial slurs as well. The problem here is not getting in jail or to prove I?m joking. It?s to show that staff hardly treat everyone the same. My jail was obviously biased and the other kid should be jailed too

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I didn’t say you were joking about it I was just giving an example. People already told you before he could have gotten warned or the pr could have not seen it at all due to the msgs he received CUZ U KNOW THEY CAN ONLY SEE THE Latest 10 pms from someone’s pms history.
It’s simple when someone cusses at you through pms block him and report him so the pm doesn’t get lost

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyFreeze

Don?t know if you can read or not Joey but I did say he called me a white cracker. A cracker is a racial slur to white people. You trying to justify this mistake shows how selfless and inconsiderate some staff are. Thank you for furthermore proving my point<3

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Basically what you?re saying Joey is that staff will choose a punishment just from their perspective rather than investigating? Well at least the era community knows this bullsh** now

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I still don?t think any of you know what harassment is. To say I harassed her is absurd.
?An isolated incident is not harassment ? the behavior must be repetitious? For a staff you sure lack basic knowledge. Not only that but it was never directed to her. The proper punishment should have been an inappropriate sexual comment, which I would have been fine with. The issue here is to show that she was using her position to accuse me of hogwash.

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What I'm justifying is that we do read both partie's pms
In addition to that why haven't you reported her when she called you that? Or are you keen with the fact that she will be punished all on her own ?
Plus, I'm not saying that staff will punish from their perspective, I'm saying they'll have an objective view rather than a subjective view which is the view used by investigators when studying a case.
That "sexual comment" might be chosen as sexual harassment cause the reporter might've felt sexually harassed more than feeling that it's a racial comment. Both ways you'd get immediately jailed. (Any sexual content gets to sexual harassment)
And I'm 100% with what imaginary says, don't twist our words and make conclusions based on your false translations.
If you feel like it was truly unjust and you still have your pm history intact, screenshot it and send it to a high staff so they can investigate furthermore.
If not then it's your problem that you felt harassed at a late time.

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What I'm justifying is that we do read both partie's pms
In addition to that why haven't you reported her when she called you that? Or are you keen with the fact that she will be punished all on her own ?
Plus, I'm not saying that staff will punish from their perspective, I'm saying they'll have an objective view rather than a subjective view which is the view used by investigators when studying a case.
That "sexual comment" might be chosen as sexual harassment cause the reporter might've felt sexually harassed more than feeling that it's a racial comment. Both ways you'd get immediately jailed. (Any sexual content gets to sexual harassment)
And I'm 100% with what imaginary says, don't twist our words and make conclusions based on your false translations.
If you feel like it was truly unjust and you still have your pm history intact, screenshot it and send it to a high staff so they can investigate furthermore.
If not then it's your problem that you felt harassed at a late time.

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Ah okay. Thank you for your feedback, Joey

I report people when they says bad words to me in pms and they never get jailed! I?m pretty sure admins don?t jail the girls

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Originally Posted by Lacolas420

I report people when they says bad words to me in pms and they never get jailed! I?m pretty sure admins don?t jail the girls

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Lol please

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Originally Posted by Mikel

PRs will always check PM history of the person who was reported AND of the person who is reporting.

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It may be standard procedure to check both PM histories, but if that was done then the other person OP was talking to; would have been jailed.

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Originally Posted by Bulletzone

It may be standard procedure to check both PM histories, but if that was done then the other person OP was talking to; would have been jailed.

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Or it would have been lost in the previous pms but the other guy didn't report her which is why she didn't get warned.

Closing thread as this has started a flame war.