Change to Era

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10-27-2018, 06:03 AM
UrMum

Change to Era

We all know that Era is dieing, but I want to know is if their will be any changes to help bring the players base up and when will they happen.

The new weapon changes have been nice but its not enough. Their is still only 2k players and and most are inactive due to school. Era has alot of potential and if most of the admins and the manager of Era himself, actually put in work they could restore/increase the player base.
10-27-2018, 06:12 AM
Adrian321

Yes, Graal has great potential but unfortunately the admins do not know how to use that potential.
10-27-2018, 06:16 AM
GrahfixCloud

What makes you think players know better than admins? Have you ever heard an admin talk about these problems. Don't worry about numbers and have fun playing. Not trying to be an *** but admins got this. Trust in them :3

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10-27-2018, 06:30 AM
UrMum

I know it just feels like they aren’t doing anything to fix this

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Originally Posted by UrMum

I know it just feels like they aren’t doing anything to fix this

This post was ment to be a reply to GrahfixCloud sorry for spam
10-27-2018, 06:31 AM
Just nexus

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Originally Posted by GrahfixCloud

What makes you think players know better than admins? Have you ever heard an admin talk about these problems. Don't worry about numbers and have fun playing. Not trying to be an *** but admins got this. Trust in them :3

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We've put our trust in them for a long time but this game is at an all time low to where there is only 400-600 players on at certain times. They have a spread out players base from classic to west and zone. On the side note connection is poor for pretty much everyone and my connection usually runs at 40-60ms on other games

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10-27-2018, 07:00 AM
Adrian321

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrahfixCloud

What makes you think players know better than admins? Have you ever heard an admin talk about these problems. Don't worry about numbers and have fun playing. Not trying to be an *** but admins got this. Trust in them :3

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1.A grain of good experience at age 9, is worth more than a moral course at 20
2.Not solving problems is guaranteeing a bigger problem
3.Trusting is difficult. Know who to trust, even more.
:o
10-27-2018, 07:41 AM
GrahfixCloud

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian321

1.A grain of good experience at age 9, is worth more than a moral course at 20
2.Not solving problems is guaranteeing a bigger problem
3.Trusting is difficult. Know who to trust, even more.
:o

Sorry for being super talkative. :)

I have no idea what you are saying. Could you better explain what you are saying to fix the communication. I still think it isn't a big deal, we have fun. No need for pessimism. You don't have to stress over every little problem. Your number 2, I do get. Sometimes problems can lead to bigger problems but to this issue, it is in my opinion irrelevant. Trust, there is not many reasons to distrust the game. Don't worry about that either. Lets hop online, there are many things to do. Work, base, chill, events, pk, Holliday events, afk, make a gang/recruit, and much much more. Do not act like the game has so many problems that no one is fixing. You should work hard to find and address problems. Did you not see Junz working on the swear filter? For example. Also, people used to complain about the vip. We got a car vip and then an awesome gun vip with 2 different add on's. If you are still disatisfied, I fixed that for myself by learning gfx, it can put a lot more meaning in the game, even if it does take years. It's an attitude thing that makes the game good or bad. Hang out with me in game :) There is so much to do.

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10-27-2018, 08:14 AM
Adrian321

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrahfixCloud

Sorry for being super talkative. :)

I have no idea what you are saying. Could you better explain what you are saying to fix the communication. I still think it isn't a big deal, we have fun. No need for pessimism. You don't have to stress over every little problem. Your number 2, I do get. Sometimes problems can lead to bigger problems but to this issue, it is in my opinion irrelevant. Trust, there is not many reasons to distrust the game. Don't worry about that either. Lets hop online, there are many things to do. Work, base, chill, events, pk, Holliday events, afk, make a gang/recruit, and much much more. Do not act like the game has so many problems that no one is fixing. You should work hard to find and address problems. Did you not see Junz working on the swear filter? For example. Also, people used to complain about the vip. We got a car vip and then an awesome gun vip with 2 different add on's. If you are still disatisfied, I fixed that for myself by learning gfx, it can put a lot more meaning in the game, even if it does take years. It's an attitude thing that makes the game good or bad. Hang out with me in game :) There is so much to do.

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It is not pessimism is philosophy, I understand what you mean, but there are very important things that must be fixed, I can ignore those big problems (for example base) but there will always be people who complain about those problems.

Currently I play the game for my friends and every week I see how they quit. The toxicity, the lack of ideas and every year the same. Is killing the game
I repeat I am not pessimistic, I always try to lower people from the clouds, share ideas and sometimes I am the one who has to be taken down from the clouds.:o
10-27-2018, 08:22 AM
GrahfixCloud

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian321

It is not pessimism is philosophy, I understand what you mean, but there are very important things that must be fixed, I can ignore those big problems (for example base) but there will always be people who complain about those problems.

Currently I play the game for my friends and every week I see how they quit. The toxicity, the lack of ideas and every year the same. Is killing the game
I repeat I am not pessimistic, I always try to lower people from the clouds, share ideas and sometimes I am the one who has to be taken down from the clouds.:o

Awesome, I get that.

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10-27-2018, 10:48 AM
iHit

I guess everyone here is an expert in philosophy and economy..
10-27-2018, 03:02 PM
kaz210

Quote:

Originally Posted by UrMum

We all know that Era is dieing, but I want to know is if their will be any changes to help bring the players base up and when will they happen.

The new weapon changes have been nice but its not enough. Their is still only 2k players and and most are inactive due to school. Era has alot of potential and if most of the admins and the manager of Era himself, actually put in work they could restore/increase the player base.

Wait wait, hold up.. dieing?
10-27-2018, 03:21 PM
Zany

All I'll say is
1. The game is not dying. By saying the game is dead/dying has a much stronger meaning than people seem to understand. Is the population playing the game lower than it was before? Yes. However, dying would mean that almost nobody plays anymore, that no updates are ever put out, and no active individuals work on the game. This is not true for Era. The population is lower than before for many reasons, not just a single thing. The main thing is that the population that played originally and made up a large chunk of the base is now moved on and grown. We can't assume anything; by assuming things about why the game is having the changes it is, you're setting it up for failure.

2. Although I completely understand your point of view and by no means am trying to contradict you, try not to say anything in certainty unless you understand everything that is being discussed behind the scenes. Just because you don't see or know what is being added, what is being changed, and why what is being done is being done, does not mean that the people behind it put zero thought into it, or are doing nothing. I can guarantee you, every single active staff in the game is acutely aware of its many issues, and we are acutely aware of what the players want versus what we can do for them. There's an endless amount of things to balance in that process. Please, don't assume that we're twiddling our thumbs oblivious to what's going on. I don't mean any of this in an accusatory way. Just know, in everything we do, our intention is only to help the game and please the players. It's never to please ourselves, nor to ignore what is going on at the same time. However, just because one thing is added to the game doesn't mean we don't care about everything else that should be. <3

We're all doing our best. There are always limitations but just know that. You might not be able to see that, but we are. I would never say that just to say that.
10-27-2018, 03:25 PM
imaginary

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zany

All I'll say is
1. The game is not dying. By saying the game is dead/dying has a much stronger meaning than people seem to understand. Is the population playing the game lower than it was before? Yes. However, dying would mean that almost nobody plays anymore, that no updates are ever put out, and no active individuals work on the game. This is not true for Era. The population is lower than before for many reasons, not just a single thing. The main thing is that the population that played originally and made up a large chunk of the base is now moved on and grown. We can't assume anything; by assuming things about why the game is having the changes it is, you're setting it up for failure.

2. Although I completely understand your point of view and by no means am trying to contradict you, try not to say anything in certainty unless you understand everything that is being discussed behind the scenes. Just because you don't see or know what is being added, what is being changed, and why what is being done is being done, does not mean that the people behind it put zero thought into it, or are doing nothing. I can guarantee you, every single active staff in the game is acutely aware of its many issues, and we are acutely aware of what the players want versus what we can do for them. There's an endless amount of things to balance in that process. Please, don't assume that we're twiddling our thumbs oblivious to what's going on. I don't mean any of this in an accusatory way. Just know, in everything we do, our intention is only to help the game and please the players. It's never to please ourselves, nor to ignore what is going on at the same time. However, just because one thing is added to the game doesn't mean we don't care about everything else that should be. <3

We're all doing our best. There are always limitations but just know that. You might not be able to see that, but we are. I would never say that just to say that.

The game is really dying
10-27-2018, 03:58 PM
Abdullah1441

Era has been at a 1.5k playerbase for a while now.
10-27-2018, 08:54 PM
Lepto*

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrahfixCloud

What makes you think players know better than admins? Have you ever heard an admin talk about these problems? Don't worry about numbers and have fun playing. Not trying to be a jerk, but admins got this. Trust in them :3

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Yeah, trust in the 5 of them making the game run.

Things don't change unless there's a staff team to warrant it. Thanks to the inactive/young/inexperienced playerbase, not many people meet their crieteria.

However, they have seemed to do some interesting things in the 2-3 months since I was gone. Let's wait and see what happens.
10-27-2018, 09:12 PM
GrahfixCloud

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Originally Posted by imaginary

The game is really dying

Dude... Back it up if you are gonna say it....

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10-28-2018, 12:07 PM
imaginary

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Originally Posted by GrahfixCloud

Dude... Back it up if you are gonna say it....

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It’s obvious. Playbase slowlt going down down and down

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Slowly
10-28-2018, 12:14 PM
GrahfixCloud

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Originally Posted by imaginary

It’s obvious. Playbase slowlt going down down and down

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Slowly

That's getting less popular, not dying. For all we know it could stay the same for the next 5 years and then get really popular for whatever reason. Player world's die, Era isn't gonna have 0 admins working and 0 players playing. Maybe there are just less players rn cause they are busy playing Fortnite.

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10-28-2018, 02:34 PM
HotPocketGenocide

I give it until 2020-21
10-28-2018, 11:39 PM
Grief Hero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zany

All I'll say is
1. The game is not dying. By saying the game is dead/dying has a much stronger meaning than people seem to understand. Is the population playing the game lower than it was before? Yes. However, dying would mean that almost nobody plays anymore, that no updates are ever put out, and no active individuals work on the game. This is not true for Era. The population is lower than before for many reasons, not just a single thing. The main thing is that the population that played originally and made up a large chunk of the base is now moved on and grown. We can't assume anything; by assuming things about why the game is having the changes it is, you're setting it up for failure.

2. Although I completely understand your point of view and by no means am trying to contradict you, try not to say anything in certainty unless you understand everything that is being discussed behind the scenes. Just because you don't see or know what is being added, what is being changed, and why what is being done is being done, does not mean that the people behind it put zero thought into it, or are doing nothing. I can guarantee you, every single active staff in the game is acutely aware of its many issues, and we are acutely aware of what the players want versus what we can do for them. There's an endless amount of things to balance in that process. Please, don't assume that we're twiddling our thumbs oblivious to what's going on. I don't mean any of this in an accusatory way. Just know, in everything we do, our intention is only to help the game and please the players. It's never to please ourselves, nor to ignore what is going on at the same time. However, just because one thing is added to the game doesn't mean we don't care about everything else that should be. <3

We're all doing our best. There are always limitations but just know that. You might not be able to see that, but we are. I would never say that just to say that.

Google lists this as the following definition of dying:
gradually ceasing to exist or function; in decline and about to disappear.
Is the playerbase not declining, alongside it's released content and active staff members?
10-29-2018, 12:16 AM
BlackandWhite

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Originally Posted by Zany

However, dying would mean that almost nobody plays anymore, that no updates are ever put out, and no active individuals work on the game.
.

I don’t think you know what dying means

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zany

The main thing is that the population that played originally and made up a large chunk of the base is now moved on and grown. We can't assume anything; by assuming things about why the game is having the changes it is, you're setting it up for failure.
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As a general comment, I have seen this sort of claim numerous time and I believe it shouldn’t be use a deflection for the genuine issues of graal, which has consequently resulted in a declining era population

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Originally Posted by Zany

What is being changed, and why what is being done is being done, does not mean that the people behind it put zero thought into it, or are doing nothing. I can guarantee you, every single active staff in the game is acutely aware of its many issues, and we are acutely aware of what the players want versus what we can do for them. There's an endless amount of things to balance in that process. Please, don't assume that we're twiddling our thumbs oblivious to what's going on.
.

Obviously the “admins put no effort” claim is an exaggerated, however, the thought behind it has some truth. That there appears to be a level inaction for solutions when to solving certain issues. An example such as the consistent lag on graal which appears as if it’s never going to be fixed. Being aware can only go so far.

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Originally Posted by Zany

Just know, in everything we do, our intention is only to help the game and please the players. It's never to please ourselves, nor to ignore what is going on at the same time. However, just because one thing is added to the game doesn't mean we don't care about everything else that should be. <3

We're all doing our best. There are always limitations but just know that. You might not be able to see that, but we are. I would never say that just to say that.

Why do you keep saying this? Like yeh we are thankful of good intentions but at times it becomes frustrating at the actual action that follows this intention

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Originally Posted by GrahfixCloud

That's getting less popular, not dying. For all we know it could stay the same for the next 5 years and then get really popular for whatever reason. Player world's die, Era isn't gonna have 0 admins working and 0 players playing. Maybe there are just less players rn cause they are busy playing Fortnite.

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Dying ≠ dead
10-29-2018, 02:54 PM
Darkshade214

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Originally Posted by BlackandWhite

I don’t think you know what dying means

As a general comment, I have seen this sort of claim numerous time and I believe it shouldn’t be use a deflection for the genuine issues of graal, which has consequently resulted in a declining era population

Obviously the “admins put no effort” claim is an exaggerated, however, the thought behind it has some truth. That there appears to be a level inaction for solutions when to solving certain issues. An example such as the consistent lag on graal which appears as if it’s never going to be fixed. Being aware can only go so far.

Why do you keep saying this? Like yeh we are thankful of good intentions but at times it becomes frustrating at the actual action that follows this intention

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Dying ≠ dead

Lol at admins fixing lag. "Let me put my hand through a portal and reset the servers."

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10-29-2018, 03:28 PM
iHit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zany

All I'll say is
1. The game is not dying. By saying the game is dead/dying has a much stronger meaning than people seem to understand. Is the population playing the game lower than it was before? Yes. However, dying would mean that almost nobody plays anymore, that no updates are ever put out, and no active individuals work on the game. This is not true for Era. The population is lower than before for many reasons, not just a single thing. The main thing is that the population that played originally and made up a large chunk of the base is now moved on and grown. We can't assume anything; by assuming things about why the game is having the changes it is, you're setting it up for failure.

By that logic Graal Playerworlds are alive and healthy
10-29-2018, 09:26 PM
GrahfixCloud

Quote:

Originally Posted by iHit

By that logic Graal Playerworlds are alive and healthy

That doesn't really deserve a response... Smh... Why respond to logic with a dramatic "WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!" statement.

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10-30-2018, 05:29 AM
Abdullah1441

@Zany

By gaming terms, "dying" means that the playerbase of a certain video game is decreasing.
10-30-2018, 05:48 AM
GrahfixCloud

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliGamer911

@Zany

By gaming terms, "dying" means that the playerbase of a certain video game is decreasing.

If that's what it means, there is no need to react or even care... That's not super bad.

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10-30-2018, 06:15 AM
Grief Hero

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Originally Posted by GrahfixCloud

Get a life... If that's what it means, there is no need to react or even care...

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just because you may not see/believe in something, doesn't mean it's not happening.
trump w/ global warming
10-30-2018, 06:17 AM
GrahfixCloud

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Originally Posted by Grief Hero

just because you may not see/believe in something, doesn't mean it's not happening.
trump w/ global warming

People are obviously just disagreeing with all optimism and being a pest. I don't mean to be a brute but you guys are being very stupid about this and it's very bad timing. As in, some one just died bad timing

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10-30-2018, 06:23 AM
Grief Hero

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Originally Posted by GrahfixCloud

shut up already, take a hint... Tryin make me mad foo. You are obviously just disagreeing with all optimism and being a pest

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ignorance is truly bliss
10-30-2018, 06:44 AM
GrahfixCloud

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Originally Posted by Grief Hero

ignorance is truly bliss

Fight me.

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10-30-2018, 01:29 PM
BlackandWhite

Ad hominem
Is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.
10-30-2018, 04:39 PM
failure

Back on topic, please.
10-30-2018, 07:33 PM
GrahfixCloud

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackandWhite

Ad hominem
Is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.

Oh yes, lets put it this way, if you ain't making money off the amount of players, it's not your problem. (Idk why I quoted you)

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11-03-2018, 03:29 PM
UrMum

Well today eras population hit 2.4 k today
11-03-2018, 05:46 PM
iHit

Quote:

Originally Posted by UrMum

Well today eras population hit 2.4 k today

cause crypt was ending and most gangs had their last runs (or first)
11-03-2018, 06:44 PM
UrMum

Quote:

Originally Posted by iHit

cause crypt was ending and most gangs had their last runs (or first)

Well 3.1k were on like 10 min ago
11-03-2018, 08:36 PM
Dspong

The game will continue to die so long as its core systems become outdated. We don't need new content, we need to maintenance. Things like server speed, updated software compatibility, fixing sound, lighting and graphical errors. Then start thinking about content again.

Furthermore focus on the already popular niche's within the game, events, sparing and trade etc.
Just my thoughts.
11-03-2018, 08:38 PM
GrahfixCloud

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dspong

The game will continue to die so long as its core systems become outdated. We don't need new content, we need to maintain the existing but core parts of the game. Things like server speed, updated software more compatible with the changing ios UI systems, fixing sound, lighting and graphical errors. Then start thinking about content again.

Furthermore focus on the already popular niche's within the game, events, sparing and trade etc.
Just my thoughts.

Noooooo, it's because Fortnite :3

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11-04-2018, 01:13 PM
Integration Dorvay

True that its very hard to quit a game like graal.
11-04-2018, 01:15 PM
GrahfixCloud

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Originally Posted by Integration Dorvay

True that its very hard to quit a game like graal.

Why bother quiting? This game makes you imortal.

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