Nerf Ideas for the Overpowered Chem Gun

Reloading should be slower with a very high sleep

Its bullets should do 1 dmg and explosions do the rest of the damage

Players shouldn't move when they are trying to spam with the chem gun and should unable to chase poor eralians like the BAR, Minigun, and AA Shotgun

The bullets should be 100% accurate than random so it won't be difficult to cross the deadly spam.

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Make the gun hardwork rewarding, not stupidly broken.

If the gun will run out of ammos, they should go somewhere safe and reload there so its possible to avoid them or counter them.

The gun has enough counters as it is, these nerf ideas would only devalue the weeks of work people put in to buy the gun (because remember, it's 200 EC) Moving with a gun is one of the most fundamental mechanics in the game, dude.

Also what do you mean it's not a "hard working gun?" I'm confused.

Old stat
Name - Chemical Gun
Freeze - 0.145
Firerate - 0.2
Spread - 0
Clip - 18
Reload - 0.45
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - Y
Explosive- Y

New Stat

Name - Chemical Gun
Freeze - 0.1
Firerate - 0.1
Spread - 0.50
Clip - 30
Reload - 0.40
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - Y
Explosive- Y

Based on my experience

No that doesn’t worth 200 ec
You’re talking as if you got shot once you would never be able to run away. It is avoidable

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Originally Posted by JohnCoolGamer

Old stat
Name - Chemical Gun
Freeze - 0.145
Firerate - 0.2
Spread - 0
Clip - 18
Reload - 0.45
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - Y
Explosive- Y

New Stat

Name - Chemical Gun
Freeze - 0.1
Firerate - 0.1
Spread - 0.50
Clip - 30
Reload - 0.40
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - Y
Explosive- Y

Based on my experience

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The first stats is slime mode, the other mode has never been 18 lmao. This stats is old chem clip is 45

I rather die to a dirty hacker than a dirty brainless spamming trashcan.

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Originally Posted by JohnCoolGamer

I rather die to a dirty hacker than a dirty brainless spamming trashcan.

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So you’d rather kill yourself?

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Originally Posted by imaginary

So you’d rather kill yourself?

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10 points to the Kuwaiti

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Originally Posted by Wiki

10 points to the Kuwaiti

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Ayyyy

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Originally Posted by Wiki

10 points to the Kuwaiti

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Originally Posted by imaginary

Ayyyy

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Awww. Just 10. :(

Do you know how much time it takes to earn those ECs?? You can even get a BAR or a mini if you work in pizzas for less than 100 hours.

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Originally Posted by Nani

Do you know how much time it takes to earn those ECs?? You can even get a BAR or a mini if you work in pizzas for less than 100 hours.

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You know how impossible it is to counter a dumb gun that does spam explosive damage with a stupid buffed ammo count?

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Originally Posted by JohnCoolGamer

You know how impossible it is to counter a dumb gun that does spam explosive damage with a stupid buffed ammo count?

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No, I kinda just weave through wherever I find a path. Or just straight up walk through them, why counter when you can just die, respawn and then keep on going to your destination?
Ha ha I know I'm so funny.
Either way, it's not that difficult if you try it out for yourself. (Talking this time with guns of course)

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Originally Posted by Tricky

No, I kinda just weave through wherever I find a path. Or just straight up walk through them, why counter when you can just die, respawn and then keep on going to your destination?
Ha ha I know I'm so funny.
Either way, it's not that difficult if you try it out for yourself. (Talking this time with guns of course)

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Newbies with no revive would just quit and not play, with pcs they dont wanna die caz everyone hates delay which the server is doing right now.

They won't even add shields like the HWS and care for the players who needs to block damage from guns caz no one likes PK but everyone LIKES KILLING caz everyone in this game are rabid and feral stupid.

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but some treats Graal Era like Classic. They're probably insane.

I know everyone hates how Era's streets got overrun with Chemical Gun users in the last 2 years, yeah it's annoying. But it's not the apocalypse. For someone who doesn't play the game and reads your posts, the person might as well think the game became absolutely unplayable, which is false. Chemical Gun already received several nerfs since it got added, and we can't just gloss over the effort their users have done to get it. Just avoid the projectiles. Hell dude, if they gassed you or something, just use the unstick me option to escape.

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Originally Posted by JimmY1809

I know everyone hates how Era's streets got overrun with Chemical Gun users in the last 2 years, yeah it's annoying. But it's not the apocalypse. For someone who doesn't play the game and reads your posts, the person might as well think the game became absolutely unplayable, which is false. Chemical Gun already received several nerfs since it got added, and we can't just gloss over the effort their users have done to get it. Just avoid the projectiles. Hell dude, if they gassed you or something, just use the unstick me option to escape.

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It's not even a matter of "efforts," if you're good enough there are legitimate working counters to the thing (strafing, spam, meleeing, etc.)

The only improvements we still haven't got are of course better optimizations to the Chemical Gun.

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Originally Posted by Wiki

It's not even a matter of "efforts," if you're good enough there are legitimate working counters to the thing (strafing, spam, meleeing, etc.)

The only improvements we still haven't got are of course better optimizations to the Chemical Gun.

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I was actually referring to the effort of the owners to get the 200 ECs to buy it, not to dodge it... but yeah, I agree with you.

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Originally Posted by JimmY1809

I was actually referring to the effort of the owners to get the 200 ECs to buy it, not to dodge it... but yeah, I agree with you.

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I.. I'm gonna take the stairs.

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Originally Posted by JimmY1809

I was actually referring to the effort of the owners to get the 200 ECs to buy it, not to dodge it... but yeah, I agree with you.

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All chem users should get refund with their 200 ec for a long time i always see someone complaining about chem its about time they make action for it refund it or make it limited like the 8k gun in laser tag

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Originally Posted by BroGo

All chem users should get refund with their 200 ec for a long time i always see someone complaining about chem its about time they make action for it refund it or make it limited like the 8k gun in laser tag

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Yes but admins hate the refund subject for guns. There won't be gun refunds.

I think the best thing would be to remove the weapon from the store but allow the players who bought it to keep it. In their place they will put a more balanced weapon with a lower price.

I just notice chem has many indirect nerfs from the past 1 year im gone , indirect nerf 1: other gun damage buffed, chem users can now die easily and faster even with 3 players with 50k gralats like m4 because of 10 damage. Indirect nerf 2: the respawn hit timer you can now easily escape after dying 1 time from chem.

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Originally Posted by JohnCoolGamer

Old stat
Name - Chemical Gun
Freeze - 0.145
Firerate - 0.2
Spread - 0
Clip - 18
Reload - 0.45
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - Y
Explosive- Y

New Stat

Name - Chemical Gun
Freeze - 0.1
Firerate - 0.1
Spread - 0.50
Clip - 30
Reload - 0.40
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - Y
Explosive- Y

Based on my experience

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ok how about this:

Name - Chemical Gun
Freeze - 0.9
Firerate - 0.07
Spread - 0.80
Clip - 50
Reload - 1.5
Bullets - 1
Auto - N
Stacked - Y
Explosive- 50 percent chance
Special Feature: Able to be converted to a trashpick to pick up trash and can also be used as a melee dealing 6dmg per hit with a 50% chance of burning opponent because of the chemicals. The gun will also have special angling feature allowing the user to select the angle at which the bullet is fired (up to 90 degrees) BUT the spread remains the same regardless of which angle is selected.

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Originally Posted by LYK08

ok how about this:

Name - Chemical Gun
Freeze - 0.9
Firerate - 0.07
Spread - 0.80
Clip - 50
Reload - 1.5
Bullets - 1
Auto - N
Stacked - Y
Explosive- 50 percent chance
Special Feature: Able to be converted to a trashpick to pick up trash and can also be used as a melee dealing 6dmg per hit with a 50% chance of burning opponent because of the chemicals. The gun will also have special angling feature allowing the user to select the angle at which the bullet is fired (up to 90 degrees) BUT the spread remains the same regardless of which angle is selected.

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That seems like something a 9 year old came up with. and with the stats you came up with, it is NOWHERE near being 200 ec

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Originally Posted by Grantman20

That seems like something a 9 year old came up with. and with the stats you came up with, it is NOWHERE near being 200 ec

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200 ECs is just a statement.

When you hand over 200ECs, you are making a statement of how badly you want that item that you are willing to pay 200ECs.

The price is a wall that stops people from wanting it badly enough. It is not an indication of what you are getting.

Think about branded bags. They are priced highly but the materials used to make them and all its production costs probabaly just a fraction. The rest of the price goes to profit. Similarly, CGs are should be considered a luxury good because only a small handful of players have it so the price should remain a statement of how badly they want it, not for the stats.

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The gun isn't even that bad, in all honesty. The only field in which it was actually a problem was sparring, and if I'm not mistaken it's banned in that.