okay I had enough. this goes to all of you. there is a slim chance ec items will be refunded, BUT with under these rules.*do you know battlefield 4 well when you upgrade to premium they give you a calendar of what will be hosted/given certain days* I would like to see that in era but instead it will be something like they will give us a calendar and tell us what item will be able to be refunded that day, and this will only happens once, if you weren't on to bad, also there will be a ec tracker in other words of you have a tazer or whatever is tradable these days, a message will pop up and say you aren't the original owner, you can't refund. either that or administration could agree to do events for a refund this means that you win hard race 10 and you can choose ec or refund the item that can be refund that day, these again will be once in a life time, and you will not be getting a full refund you will get 1/4 of the item, but if you think about it it's not that worth because YOU WORKED HARD! to get that ec item now you're just gonna refund for 1/4 of its price??? SHAMEEEEEEE on you.