Un nerf M8A1

[Donald]

M8A1 is currently not worth its price.
Its a gun nobody wants.
Everyone who wants a spread gun without hesitation chooses PBP Auto Rifle.
IMO it was unnecessarily nerfed couple months ago, I have repeatedly PMed Bitzsam months before to no avail.
He is highly adamant that his nerfs were the right decision.
I''m absolutely baffled by justifications, looking at the guns in its current state adding salt to wound is when you begin realise & notice how absolutely diabolical it is relative its counterparts.
This action is criminal

Over 1/5th of your posts out of your total post count has my name within that message. At this point it's pretty ridiculous that I can expect to see your name pop up in any thread I post in.
You're very narrowminded, you make overthought and exaggerated assumptions about me, and if I wasn't over explaining myself, let alone having to respond to another one of your messages then I would tell you why that was done.

Since i'm not going to do that you can go look for yourself. You have the current stats, you can go look at its old stats and then look at its price and compare it to guns around that price. If you have any common sense/ understanding about stat values then it shouldn't even need explaining why that change, and many other changes were done

You don't understand the context of gun hierarchies I was referring to. I said despite the rebalanace the guns hierarchies would remain UNCHANGED. Meaning whilst the guns are each worse than before, they aren't worse than certain guns that they were better than before. Just the extent that they are better will not as be high as before.

Compare the m8a1 for 65-68k with the sten for 65k. m8a1 used to beat it in every category, now it is evened out by only beating it in spread and freeze instead of spread, freeze, equal firerate, equal clip. Its spread is too high to have a fast firerate. If you want it to be faster then the best you'll get is 0.4 down to 0.35 with a spread decrease from 0.16 to 0.12

Good stats but high spread can make it unreliable- High firerate with moderate freeze means you are stuck in place if you spam too much.

Name - M8a1
Freeze - 0.175
Firerate - 0.3 0.4
Spread - 0.16
Clip - 30 16
Reload - 0.25 0.35
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - N

Name - Sten
Freeze - 0.185
Firerate - 0.3
Spread - 0.03
Clip - 32
Reload - 0.12
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - N

Pre nerfs the only advantage M8A1 had over sten was 0.01 better freeze. Its spread tho huge can make it unreliable.
Sten had better clip & reload.
Both cost 65k.

To me if you look at it comparing the 2 guns pre nerf M8A1 did not ''m8a1 used to beat it in every category'' like you claimed.

Post nerf M8A1''s firerate is 0.1 slower, clip 18 compared sten 32, reload is 0.35s which is 3 times longer compared to sten which only takes 0.12s to reload.

M8A1''s only clearcut advantage is a 0.01 less freeze compared to Sten.
Both are the same price I doubt anyone would choose a 0.01 advantage over the significant disadvantages said above.

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If you really want to see something which is significantly better than all the other guns within this price range check out AB8 vs M8A1

Name - AB8
Freeze - 0.17
Firerate - 0.32
Spread - 0.07
Clip - 40
Reload - 0.12
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - N

AB8 0.005 less freeze, 0.08 faster firerate, 22 bullets more, reload 3 times faster 0.12 vs 0.35
Both cost the same 65k.
Clearly M8A1 is the big loser here & it contradicts your claim that the guns would maintain their hierarchy.

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Another one is FAL OSW vs M8A1

Name - FAL OSW
Freeze - 0.17
Firerate - 0.315
Spread - 0.1
Clip - 20
Reload - 0.2
Bullets - 1
Auto - N
Stacked - N

Better freeze by 0.005, faster firerate by 0.085, 2 more bullets than M8A1, & reload time two times faster.
Both cost 65k.
Where is the so called ''ripple effect'' you only nerfed M8A1 whilst leaving every other gun within than price range untouched.
You can''t possibly tell me that M8A1 is too significantly better than others in its price range.
I think if you truly used it you''ll find that its disadvantageous in most situations, which why its rarely seen to be used even less now than ever.

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F2000 vs M8A1

Name - F2000
Freeze - 0.185
Firerate - 0.28
Spread - 0.06
Clip - 28
Reload - 0.2
Bullets - 1
Auto - N
Stacked - N

Perk: Able to put the gun on your back

Less freeze by 0.01, faster firerate by 0.12, 10 more bullets, reload time two times faster.
Same price.

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PBP AutoRifle vs M8A1

Name - PBP AutoRifle
Freeze - 0.12
Firerate - 0.25
Spread - 0.165
Clip - 30
Reload - 0.4
Bullets - 1
Auto - N
Stacked - N

Despite costing $10k less PBP AutoRifle has 0.055 less freeze, firerate faster by 0.15, bigger spread by 0.005, bigger clip by 12.

PBP AutoRifle is 6 dmg compared to M8A1 is 8 dmg.
But looking at the stats it takes little thought to imagine no matter big your dmg is it doesn''t matter because if your shots don''t land, your firerate is slow, your movement is slow, your reload is slow, you have a smaller clip.
You''re gonna be pummelled.

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M8A1 is really easy & vulnerable to be cornered & rushed by PBP AutoRifle & other guns.
M8A1 is not really suited for anything weak attack weak defense this gun is highly unbalanced.
Not basing, Not good for PK, Not good for Spar, Not good for Fort, Not good for anything.