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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxwashere View Post
    i didn't know this was a formal setting and perfect grammar was a necessity. I'll be sure to keep that in mind. I digress, bitzsam makes terrible decisions regarding weapon changes.


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    Nerf the prices. Too OP.
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    I think they just stick fairly random prices on guns, but not TOO random.

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    Hey guys I'm curious what you think about guns with slightly lower freeze but lower spread & smaller clip vs guns with slightly higher freeze, bigger spread & potentially higher fire rate.

    A couple of the top guns have stats pretty average except they can move faster i.e, less freeze.
    e.g, Ghost M4, Rafor, Souizen/ FMG9/ BAG, FOG, SS50a3, G36 Tactical, Ion Carbine.

    My question is in a crowded base is low freeze really worth paying an extra 100k for your gun?

    Think about it the only place low freeze actually gives you an advantage is sparring & 1v1 pking.
    In bases being able to move more freely but having a lower spread, smaller clip, slower firerate Generally gets you killed in most circumstances.

    Its why M4 is considered an alll round gun even tho its freeze is significantly more than a lot of the top guns.
    Truth is low freeze dooesn''t seem too significant in a lot of scenarios.

    Like you got higher freeze but your plusses is you have higher spread & in terms of firerate you can more than match a lot of the guns, your clip & reload is faster.

    So you don''t really need to move that much.

    Long story short, low freeze when paired with lower spread, small clip, slow reload or slow firerate seemingly which gun is worth more isn't that obvious.

    Even if its worth more pricing it at more than double the cost is questionable.

    Does double the price mean double the fun or kills?

    Lemme know what you guys think what''d you prefer higher freeze but more spread & faster firerate or low freeze & double the cost in basing & pking?
    Last edited by Donald; 10-14-2017 at 03:23 PM.

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    Could someone tell me how M4 is better than Default Rifle


    Name - M4 cost: $55k
    Freeze - 0.1945
    Firerate - 0.3
    Spread - 0.1
    Clip - 16
    Reload - 0.3
    Bullets - 1
    Auto - N
    Stacked - N

    Name - Default Rifle cost: $50k
    Freeze - 0.185
    Firerate - 0.2688
    Spread - 1
    Clip - 16
    Reload - 0.35
    Bullets - 1
    Auto - N
    Stacked - N
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    The only things M4 is better at is a 0.05 faster reload.
    Default cost $5k less & has 0.0095 less freeze, faster firerate by 0.0312 & 0.9 more spread.

    I'm confused so what 0.05 faster reload is worth more than faster firerate & lower freeze?
    Spread 0.1 vs 1 spread whats better in General?

    Are these prices justified?

    Help me out how do these things work what is better than what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Could someone tell me how M4 is better than Default Rifle


    Name - M4 cost: $55k
    Freeze - 0.1945
    Firerate - 0.3
    Spread - 0.1
    Clip - 16
    Reload - 0.3
    Bullets - 1
    Auto - N
    Stacked - N

    Name - Default Rifle cost: $50k
    Freeze - 0.185
    Firerate - 0.2688
    Spread - 1
    Clip - 16
    Reload - 0.35
    Bullets - 1
    Auto - N
    Stacked - N
    ,
    The only things M4 is better at is a 0.05 faster reload.
    Default cost $5k less & has 0.0095 less freeze, faster firerate by 0.0312 & 0.9 more spread.

    I'm confused so what 0.05 faster reload is worth more than faster firerate & lower freeze?
    Spread 0.1 vs 1 spread whats better in General?

    Are these prices justified?

    Help me out how do these things work what is better than what?
    It's meant to be better and cheaper as it is a contest gun, and the look/ animations of the gun aren't of the same standard as a regular shop gun. This was stated back when the default rifle was first added. It's pretty public knowledge that default is better

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiTzSam View Post
    It's meant to be better and cheaper as it is a contest gun, and the look/ animations of the gun aren't of the same standard as a regular shop gun. This was stated back when the default rifle was first added. It's pretty public knowledge that default is better
    Does this mean you're not going to nerf the Default Rifle?
    I've used the gun on a friends acc & honestly I prefer it over BAR.
    How much would you price it for its current stats if it wasn't a contest gun?

    Same question for UMP45 are you going to nerf it?
    Its only 0.01 more freeze than GM4 with minor difference in spread.

    If you're not going to nerf these guns then I might consider buying it.

    I'm not having you nerf the firerate or freeze one week after I buy the gun like before.

    Answer me now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald View Post
    Does this mean you're not going to nerf the Default Rifle?
    I've used the gun on a friends acc & honestly I prefer it over BAR.
    How much would you price it for its current stats if it wasn't a contest gun?

    Same question for UMP45 are you going to nerf it?
    Its only 0.01 more freeze than GM4 with minor difference in spread.

    If you're not going to nerf these guns then I might consider buying it.

    I'm not having you nerf the firerate or freeze one week after I buy the gun like before.

    Answer me now.
    Ump45 was already nerfed with a slower firerate so I don't see it being changed again- I just haven't got around to updating all the stats. I'm waiting for something to be finished before that happens.

    Default rifle has a potential to be brought down. It's initial stats were probably a bit excessive for what it was- Like many of those guns I wasn't the one who gave it those stats. I'd probably just nerf the firerate to the same as the M4 and keep the rest of its stats so I guess you could still say it's better than the M4 overall

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    Name - Morano Thompson Price: $82.5k
    Freeze - 0.19
    Firerate - 0 3
    Spread - 0.13
    Clip - 30
    Reload - 0.4
    Bullets - 1
    Auto - N
    Stacked - N

    Name - M4 Price: $55k
    Freeze - 0.1945
    Firerate - 0.3
    Spread - 0.1
    Clip - 16
    Reload - 0.3
    Bullets - 1
    Auto - N
    Stacked - N

    These guns are basically the same,
    Is Morano Thompsons 0.03 more spread than M4 a clear advantage or a subjective preference?
    Is it worth paying an extra $27.5k when all you get is an extra 14 clip considering also M4 has a faster reload by 0.1?
    What really should M4 be or Morano Thompson be priced at?
    Last edited by Donald; 10-31-2017 at 04:34 PM.

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