Scams

[LYK08]

To Prevent scams, I suggest we build a LYK Trades Arbitration Tribunal (LYK-TAT)

Basically this building will have trade tables, though fewer than those in the trade centers.
Each trade table would be surrounded by spectator benches and everything in the trade room will be recorded, and tracked. Things such as IP addresses, PMs exchanges, detection of any hacking attempts to scam, etc etc. This is so that in the event of a scam, the admins would have evidence to take action against scammers.

Here is the procedure:
The buyer and seller meet at the tribunal, and the seller makes an official deal showing the item offered(which can be accessed by tapping on the buyer's profile, and pressing "make deal") The other party receives a pop up and types in his trade offer. This would be a black and white record of the terms in the trade, so it is very clear.

The trade proceeds, with every thing relevant to the trade recorded. There could be spectators to witness the trade so in case anything happens they can testify.

The procedure is very formal and structured so there would leave little room for any foul play.

It will cost 250 dollars to make a trade, which is more expensive but it is justified because this would be a safer way to trade. It would be mostly for those involved in high-ticket trades. E.g. trades involving hundreds of thousands of shells and rare items.

Because the trade will take place in an arbitration tribunal, if a person hacks to successfully scam, they would face a harsher punishment and a Unfair Trades Practice Fine of 100,000 gralats. All the trading costs and fines will be displayed publicly in the tribunal for members of the public to see. The last 50 records of the trades that took place in the tribunal will also be available for public to see, if they require a benchmark for trading similar items so that they do not get shortchanged. So for example, if most people are trading stun gun for X amount of trochus, others will also charge at X amount or close to it to prevent selling at a bad price.

[Casey]

its really not that hard to avoid being scammed, i dont see why this is needed

[DerpyLune]

Scamming is legal

[yK8]

its really not that hard to avoid being scammed, i dont see why this is needed

People still do get scammed, though. These are the people we have to protect.

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Scamming is legal

Doesn't mean its ethical. We have to improve the reliability of trades to gain public confidence in the system.

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[Blu_]

To be honest we have too many trading areas, start area's trading table and tachi trade table is enough. Having too many trading areas is one of the reason people get scammed, also cross trading, USDing people will be hard to catch if those traders are in trade areas where there's no other players are trading.

I'm not sure if every PM logs are actually permanently logged but I heard that staffs can check the last 50 PM sent/received by a command, used for when someone reported for inappropriate word via PMs etc. Not sure if it's necessary to have a PM log just for the trades.

Scamming is legal but doesn't mean that people should be doing. But still their items are their responsibility.

On Era PC, there's a betflip for items, staffs are monitoring it and holding the items of betflippers to prevent scamming. I guess that's the kind of system you're trying to suggest. Maybe it's not bad to have some people trusted and have access to holding player's items so those people will check if the items being traded are the right items.

But we have around 1k+ players online daily, Era PC can do it because they have few players online daily and staffs can baby sit them. But in iEra, I think it's more important to monitor those players who're severely breaking rules.

[yK8]

To be honest we have too many trading areas, start area's trading table and tachi trade table is enough. Having too many trading areas is one of the reason people get scammed, also cross trading, USDing people will be hard to catch if those traders are in trade areas where there's no other players are trading.

I'm not sure if every PM logs are actually permanently logged but I heard that staffs can check the last 50 PM sent/received by a command, used for when someone reported for inappropriate word via PMs etc. Not sure if it's necessary to have a PM log just for the trades.

Scamming is legal but doesn't mean that people should be doing. But still their items are their responsibility.

On Era PC, there's a betflip for items, staffs are monitoring it and holding the items of betflippers to prevent scamming. I guess that's the kind of system you're trying to suggest. Maybe it's not bad to have some people trusted and have access to holding player's items so those people will check if the items being traded are the right items.

But we have around 1k+ players online daily, Era PC can do it because they have few players online daily and staffs can baby sit them. But in iEra, I think it's more important to monitor those players who're severely breaking rules.

The thing about PMs is that its too informal, at least in my suggestion there is some form of official agreement.

And ofc as I said this is only to make exchange of preferrably higher value items safer, because such trades are lower in numbers due to the high prices involved.

See it as trades of higher and lower value. Low value trades are not likely to be involved here as no one would want to pay 250 gralats for it (unless they want to be extra safe, and they feel rich)

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I know its their items and their responsibility but sometimes they do not have control over their items because scammers abuse glitch or hack. This is why this system is suggested to give traders more control.

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[imaginary]

its really not that hard to avoid being scammed, i dont see why this is needed

People still do get scammed, though. These are the people we have to protect.

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If a person still gets scammed they’re most likely dumb and will learn from their mistake

[Abdullah1441]

I kinda like the idea of a security system, but from my experience, scams usually take place on lower level items, not higher levels like 100k tro.

[LYK08]

If a person still gets scammed they’re most likely dumb and will learn from their mistake

Yea if that scam involved hundred of thousands of shells players will probably quit

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[imaginary]

Yea if that scam involved hundred of thousands of shells players will probably quit

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Not necessarily I had lost my first acc and I didn’t quit (back then)