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    Again just because players choose that its more expensive than most ultras doesn't mean it should be buffed. Its mainly a showoff item like the majority of auction items.

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    Nobody is saying Void Knife needs to be CRAZY OP we’re saying it needs to be fixed to actually work or at least make the dash 15 damage if it’s on a 3 second cooldown. GOOD weapons were buffed to do 12 damage per one bullet and now every gun kills in one less bullet while melees were left in the dust and now are THAT much harder to use to kill anybody. You’re probably gonna say melees can’t be used to kill and weren’t created for that purpose when Blaze Katana certainly can and will kill, most of the new plasma items are melees that can also kill, renegade blade can kill, NEUTRON KATANA AS CHEAP AS IT WAS WHEN PURCHASABLE can kill. And can you respond with input and not just “Oh YEaH ItEm OK iN My EyEs, ClOse ThReaD”, please actually offer a rebuttal.

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    The Hurtbox on the item is only the startup of the dash and not the end so if you dash at someone and land LITERALLY right in front of them it doesn’t damage them when in that range a normal attack would connect.

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    Exotics are different and are supposed to be more useful than regular items, and for the neutron being more useful, auction items are not obligated to be more useful than things you can buy year round. Look at most supers and some ultras, Modern Katana (something I owned) is inferior to the regular katana. Auction items are mainly for showing off.

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    So you agree that a broken hurtbox was purposefully implemented in the game as a mechanic.

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    You’re ignoring the fact that the item has ONE 12 DAMAGE DASH when a more common item was given TWO 10 DAMAGE DASHES BACK TO BACK. How are you not understanding that auction item or plasma item like you just stated doesn’t effect the usefulness of the item but if an item is more commonly used and better than an item that was released with another item very similar then why wouldn’t the two items both be as good as one another and why would one item be neglected.

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    You’re stating that because a bad auction item exists that all auction items can be bad and admins shouldn’t do anything to fix them. Price doesn’t effect its usefulness because price can’t be managed since it’s an auction so superfart and modern katana should be the same price by your logic correct, or will you change your logic to rarity controls it’s price, if that’s the case you made a 360 by acknowledging if only 10 of an item is released you know with upmost certainty that item will cost more in auctions meaning you DO control the price of an item.

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    You made a lot of good points Blitz just seems to be stuck in the ways of admins don’t have to fix anything the game is good as it is and what you get is what you get. I don’t understand how he’s missing all of your points he keeps misdirecting and adding pointless information everybody knows about that doesn’t contribute to what you’re saying or negate it in any way.

    Blitz your points are straw man arguments that don’t offer any solutions you’re simply saying admins are too lazy to fix something that’s broken.

    Not a single admin has replied to the issue of there being macros in mines being used heavily and how the mining system is a complete mess. People are taking advantage of that system by sharing accounts and guess what admins don’t care about another issue as usual.

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    These two dudes are making you guys look like fools LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawtGarbage View Post
    So you agree that a broken hurtbox was purposefully implemented in the game as a mechanic.

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    You’re ignoring the fact that the item has ONE 12 DAMAGE DASH when a more common item was given TWO 10 DAMAGE DASHES BACK TO BACK. How are you not understanding that auction item or plasma item like you just stated doesn’t effect the usefulness of the item but if an item is more commonly used and better than an item that was released with another item very similar then why wouldn’t the two items both be as good as one another and why would one item be neglected.

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    You’re stating that because a bad auction item exists that all auction items can be bad and admins shouldn’t do anything to fix them. Price doesn’t effect its usefulness because price can’t be managed since it’s an auction so superfart and modern katana should be the same price by your logic correct, or will you change your logic to rarity controls it’s price, if that’s the case you made a 360 by acknowledging if only 10 of an item is released you know with upmost certainty that item will cost more in auctions meaning you DO control the price of an item.
    Im personally not aware of this broken dash (?), if you could provide a video showing whats wrong exactly ill happily send it to higher management and they can hopefully look into it.
    I think your random comparisons of items is a bit silly. By your logic a BAG owner could complain that it doesnt have the same exact stats as a souizen even tho theyre both aucion guns and shoot bullets - silly. Comparing void knife to neutron katana is as if we compare bamboo rod (ec shop) with cotton bud, why would these have the same stats? Your comparing makes no sense to me.

    PS; ive used a void knife before incase this makes my opinion relevant on the topic.
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    Hawt and Hbk you guys are fighting the good fight

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    You’re forgetting blaze and void both were auctioned around the same time, they both cost 800k+ in trades both went for 400-500k gralats in auctions are the most expensive items in trades, both come with a hat, both have a dash, and both ignore hit timer. Are you choosing to ignore this information because it doesn’t fall suit with your narrative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JennisBat View Post
    Hawt and Hbk you guys are fighting the good fight

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    You’re forgetting blaze and void both were auctioned around the same time, they both cost 800k+ in trades both went for 400-500k gralats in auctions are the most expensive items in trades, both come with a hat, both have a dash, and both ignore hit timer. Are you choosing to ignore this information because it doesn’t fall suit with your narrative?
    I "ignore" that "info" because as i said before they arent equivalent to each other. An example of equivalent items would be a red sabre and a blue sabre, they are recolors of each other and have the same exact price and stats - thats fair. Void knife and blaze katana arent like that and i doubt any staff has ever claimed they were. Again, we dont decide their value and price.
    A difference between the 2 would also be that void knife has different colored skins and blaze doesnt which i think probably makes void knife‘s value higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JennisBat View Post
    Hawt and Hbk you guys are fighting the good fight

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    You’re forgetting blaze and void both were auctioned around the same time, they both cost 800k+ in trades both went for 400-500k gralats in auctions are the most expensive items in trades, both come with a hat, both have a dash, and both ignore hit timer. Are you choosing to ignore this information because it doesn’t fall suit with your narrative?
    They only costed that much because owners kept pressing the bid button. Just because they decided to keep bidding does not mean the stats need to change after the outcome, Its the top bidders who decided to make the items expensive. The stats were set before the items were even auctioned, its the players who decided the price was 800k. Plus void has flashy animations, and a unique gas mask because its a showoff item. We dont predict people are going to bid up to 800k for an item. For example if you went to a real life auction for a car and some guy bidded 800k for an old mustang that was owned by a famous person, should the owner complain that it doesn't have the performance of a Lambo after the auction ends? And for the broken hitbox pm a PR they always send info about glitches to devs.
    Last edited by Blitz Canavi; 06-14-2019 at 02:07 AM.

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