Quote Originally Posted by BiTzSam View Post
Increasing firerate on bar by any amount will make it faster than gm4/ many other of the high tier guns which kind of defeats the purpose as then all those guns would need to be increased so they don't become 'worse'. Don't forget the gm4/ bar difference is only 13k, gm4s current advantage is only its freeze rate but that doesn't really make much of a difference unless it's a skilled gm4 user against an unskilled bar user

The other stats are open to change, hesitant on freeze because reducing it could make it too good as spar gun as currently the higher freeze is the only deterrent so I'd only really consider a 0.01 reduction at most.
But if you want a lower clip at the exchange of a faster reload time then that can be considered

Such as 15 clip for 0.35 reload
Sounds good to me, unless anyone else objects??

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Quote Originally Posted by jaxwashere View Post
Honestly I feel like you shouldn't even be in a position to touch gun stats anymore. At least not by yourself it should really fall on a group decision.


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See man just think about it logically we can sit here and cry about the nerfs or we can compromise, I hate it just as much as you guys do