Quote Originally Posted by LYK08 View Post
Did u not read my clarification on taxes vs tradable permits?

Taxes regulates the use of an item through prices (something that everyone does not want and I have not suggested this either) while tradable permits directly regulates the use of an item (which is what I am getting at)

taxes are one-way payment whike tradable permits are just like any other trade transactions.

You seem to assume that the permits have to be gotten through payments and so you say its a tax. Its a wrong assumption. Just because I put the permits up to the free market, you assume that its a tax when its transaction of items (just like any other goods).

You analogy is flawed as that is clearly an imposition of a tax. I have not written that in my idea please read first post.

I will develop from your analogy. When I pay 50 shells, I am paying for the trade permit (a product) that allows me to trade (a utility gained from the product). This is not a tax as a tax is a payement that does not give me any product.

If I pay 100 gralats for a gun (a product) that allows me to kill (a use of the product), can I say that the 100 gralats is a tax? NO!


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1. You’re misrepresenting me. Obviously no is arguing that cost=tax. If I bought a minigun from Aim Point, obviously the 200 000 gralat price tag is not a tax. However, if the only way to buy guns is if I purchase a gun permit for 50 gralats- than the 50 gralats would be tax.

2. The necessary criterion of tax IS NOT to, “regulates the use of an item through prices,” “one-way payment,” or, “does not give me any product.” Perhaps it is characteristics or symptoms of taxes but it is not its essential nature. Hence, I fail to see how this bears any importance. After all, taxes are, to the core, a form of compulsory levy/ charge incurred/ imposed on x thing.

3. Is it not so tradeable permits directly regulate the use of an item via an incurred payment of melees/ sellables etc. That is, if I wanted to shoot more gunshots than the permissible amount I must pay/ trade/ transaction for example 50 shells from someone.

4. However, a permit is not “any other goods”, it’s mandated if one wishes to shoot more than the permissible amount. Just because I must trade for it or via any other thin veils instead of it being directly subtracted from my account makes no difference; the result remains the same.

5. My analogy was to purely demonstrate how I define taxes