The BAR.

[BOOTYSLAYER]

First of all. It isn't $50 for a bar it's $75. I dug for mine so that doesn't apply to me anyway. Just wanted to make the distinction clear.

Second of all the issue I personally have with this is changes (ANY CHANGES) made after purchase. This doesn't happen in any other game. Can you imagine what the PS3 or XBOX community would do to game-makers if they tried to do this? It wouldn't happen. They know better. You get what you pay for. Plain and simple.

The excuse "If you don't like it, don't use it" is basically their way of saying "We already got your money, now we don't care what you say. However if you're willing to spend EVEN MORE real money, we'll be glad to supply you with another OP gun which we'll just mess up later." Maybe if more planning had been involved and the guns had been more balanced to begin with this wouldn't have even been necessary. It isn't the player's fault previous gun admins were SHORT-SIGHTED.

You're right about one thing. You didn't MAKE anyone spend money on anything but by changing it after they bought it, you're scamming people and just don't want to admit it.

Bottom line: Players, enjoy the game for what it is. Just don't give them any money.

[Coolkiz22]

.-. wow ima get bar still i dont care
jk im a zone player

[Lord Greg]

First of all. It isn't $50 for a bar it's $75. I dug for mine so that doesn't apply to me anyway. Just wanted to make the distinction clear.

Second of all the issue I personally have with this is changes (ANY CHANGES) made after purchase. This doesn't happen in any other game. Can you imagine what the PS3 or XBOX community would do to game-makers if they tried to do this? It wouldn't happen. They know better. You get what you pay for. Plain and simple.

The excuse "If you don't like it, don't use it" is basically their way of saying "We already got your money, now we don't care what you say. However if you're willing to spend EVEN MORE real money, we'll be glad to supply you with another OP gun which we'll just mess up later." Maybe if more planning had been involved and the guns had been more balanced to begin with this wouldn't have even been necessary. It isn't the player's fault previous gun admins were SHORT-SIGHTED.

You're right about one thing. You didn't MAKE anyone spend money on anything but by changing it after they bought it, you're scamming people and just don't want to admit it.

Bottom line: Players, enjoy the game for what it is. Just don't give them any money.

This sums it up perfectly. I know people are saying that the guns all need rebalancing so the top tier guns need nerfing but that cannot happen. It is wrong to allow players to buy something and then make it worse and basically say that you don't care. Changing the guns is not a viable option to rebalance the game. Other possibilities need to be considered such as changing health or something.

[Kieran2820]

I dont have the bar myself but SERIOUSLY?! People payed for the gun they had and it gets changed? I really disagree with this and think its unfair to those people who dot like it because they payed for what it was not what u made it now. I think this is real bad. Imagine buying a game and then you change the game? Is that right? No. Those people should get a refund or change it back. I have made my point and i would like something to be done

[BOOTYSLAYER]

I posted this almost 3 years ago (WOW - hard to believe. I joined that forum when my shipka was nerfed. Nothing changes.) on Graalians. Guess what was done? Nothing.

http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1050

[Mr J]

First of all. It isn't $50 for a bar it's $75. I dug for mine so that doesn't apply to me anyway. Just wanted to make the distinction clear.

Second of all the issue I personally have with this is changes (ANY CHANGES) made after purchase. This doesn't happen in any other game. Can you imagine what the PS3 or XBOX community would do to game-makers if they tried to do this? It wouldn't happen. They know better. You get what you pay for. Plain and simple.

The excuse "If you don't like it, don't use it" is basically their way of saying "We already got your money, now we don't care what you say. However if you're willing to spend EVEN MORE real money, we'll be glad to supply you with another OP gun which we'll just mess up later." Maybe if more planning had been involved and the guns had been more balanced to begin with this wouldn't have even been necessary. It isn't the player's fault previous gun admins were SHORT-SIGHTED.

You're right about one thing. You didn't MAKE anyone spend money on anything but by changing it after they bought it, you're scamming people and just don't want to admit it.

Bottom line: Players, enjoy the game for what it is. Just don't give them any money.

Someone give this guy a cookie! I totally agree because when people spent 200k to buy the bar (through working in era, which is hard, or by spending their money) they paid for a weapon described. So reducing the clip size is unfair because we paid for a 25 clip not 15. So technically is is a scam what the admins are doing because they are selling us something then reducing the quality of that item later on. BOOTYSLAYER explains it best but seriously admins give us what we paid for.

[Kieran2820]

#giveuswhatwepayedfor

[Emmr]

I can not agree with BOOTYSLAYER more. When you buy something, you pay for what you're getting. You don't buy a sweater and then receive a call from the company to change it because it's too nice or too good for the price. If you pay for something with money, Gralats or real life currency, it is ridiculously unfair to make the item of purchase worse after you buy it. That is a scam. If the gun seems OP, nerf it before it's released. If you can't figure that out, develop an effective testing system. But selling your customers an item and then making it worse is a scam.

[TeddyBear]

The BAR im fine with just more reskins for it will be nice ^^ and im fine

[Pet Green Dino]

Everyone who owns a bar receives 200k and keeps the bar problem solved