It's nice to see admins are uneducated

[Shady]

First i wanna quote snk.
'RACISM* judging someone based on their ethnicity or name callling.'
Well today i got jailed apparently because i support national socialism and because i am an aryan.
What happened?
I pmed an admin i couldnt use a logo in my gang.
He replied to me saying that some people could get offended by my name 'aryan', and i said why should they get offended? I am an aryan by my self in real life and i support national socialism is that a crime? No it isnt.
So he keeps changing my name and he even changed my gang name (naazism) to colorfulflowers.
Now for some uneducated people nazism is all killing the jews and stuff.
But thats not my case that's why you shouldn't prejudge me, i dont support that dont worry.
I can see after my good points he has nothing to come up with so he says like dont teach me history.
Well you should get some repeat lessons because i am not an evil person and i am being judged off of my opinions.
So he jailed me for racial slurs lol. So quoting what snk said, did i judge someone based on their ethnicity or name calling? No.
So i make a post on the forum hoping that some admin will understand my case, well the good ol educated anero said, 'we dont support antiseminitsm'
For those who dont know what antiseminitism is it's basically hating jews and stuff.
Well did i say i support that? No, i support national socialism not antiseminitsm and as long as i dont verbally harm anyone why should i be jailed for nothing? Guys i literally pmed an admin for the logo of my gang and he jailed me.
So i want to hear your opinion about this.
Do you think we should have our own opinion as long as we dont harm other people?
Or should we be restricted for 10 hours and put on a mask because we are not allowed to have our own opinions on this game?
Now, tell me that this isnt a good point.
Inb4 this thread get closed because they dont know what to reply to this.
I hope the good ol snk reads his rules and applies them.

[Vaki]

I don't see a problem, a name of an ethnic group shouldn't be bad if that's what they call themselves. I see this a lot in my school and it makes no sense to me. I called my friend Hispanic, which he is, and I almost get a write-up because my teacher thinks it's racism. Honestly they should take admins that are 18+ because of this kind of thing. Someone gets all butt hurt because they don't know real racism and doesn't take it from a professional stand point.

[Shady]

I don't see a problem, a name of an ethnic group shouldn't be bad if that's what they call themselves. I see this a lot in my school and it makes no sense to me. I called my friend Hispanic, which he is, and I almost get a write-up because my teacher thinks it's racism. Honestly they should take admins that are 18+ because of this kind of thing. Someone gets all butt hurt because they don't know real racism and doesn't take it from a professional stand point.

Thank you a lot someone that actually knows what i mean.
It's not like i went on public places saying convert to nazism! Nazi is the way! No i didnt.
I just had my group called naazism. I didnt harm or harrass anyone. Thanks for the feedback

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I also want to say that this morning i wasted my time picking up 500 mushrooms to make that gang and they changed its name, i really want the name of my gang back.
Because that's how world should be, FREE.

[DanTheMan]

You claim admins are uneducated, yet I believe it is the other way around. The whole idea of National Socialism (aka Nazism) is based around RACISM and ANTI-SEMITISM. Sure, you brought up the point that national socialism wasn't entirely about 'killing all the Jews and stuff' -- that was just an extreme form of it brought on by Hitler. However, it doesn't change it's roots -- and because of this, and all related events in the past, how can you NOT think it is offensive? No matter what it's original intent or context, it has been overshadowed by events such as the Holocaust, therefore it has gained a negative connotation. Whether you are/believe you are Aryan [in the context that you meet the physical ideology of the Nazis], does not change whether it is appropriate/non-offensive.

I cannot understand why you think having a gang named 'naazism'/have related gang logo would not be offensive just based on the fact that you 'have blue eyes and blond hair'. It is up to the sole discretion of the uploader to deem whether the content would be offensive or not. You were given multiple chances to follow these rules that were set in place. You were not jailed for your belief or support for national socialism/nazism, but rather the fact that you refused to comply with the rules. So, do not try to play this off as some sad sob story, where you think you are being discriminated against.

Thanks, get educated, and have a nice day

[Shadow King]

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[Shady]

You claim admins are uneducated, yet I believe it is the other way around. The whole idea of National Socialism (aka Nazism) is based around RACISM and ANTI-SEMITISM. Sure, you brought up the point that national socialism wasn't entirely about 'killing all the Jews and stuff' -- that was just an extreme form of it brought on by Hitler. However, it doesn't change it's roots -- and because of this, and all related events in the past, how can you NOT think it is offensive? No matter what it's original intent or context, it has been overshadowed by events such as the Holocaust, therefore it has gained a negative connotation. Whether you are/believe you are Aryan [in the context that you meet the physical ideology of the Nazis], does not change whether it is appropriate/non-offensive.

I cannot understand why you think having a gang named 'naazism'/have related gang logo would not be offensive just based on the fact that you 'have blue eyes and blond hair'. It is up to the sole discretion of the uploader to deem whether the content would be offensive or not. You were given multiple chances to follow these rules that were set in place. You were not jailed for your belief or support for national socialism/nazism, but rather the fact that you refused to comply with the rules. So, do not try to play this off as some sad sob story, where you think you are being discriminated against.

Thanks, get educated, and have a nice day

Considering the fact that there are a lot of types of nazism i just follow the national socialism and i do not support the racist discriminational way.
However it is my opinion and i believe in it and i dont see why i shouldnt have a gang called something i believe on.
And you brought up the fact that nazism has a bad history about extremists such as hitler, well we should say the same about muslims than? What is your point you bring up the fact that this and that is racist but as long as i am not an extremist and i am not racist i dont see the reason why my gang should be deleted when i wasted my time making it it's just my opinion deal with it im not harming anyone.
And i really havent got all those warnings you are talking about he changed my name and i asked for further explanations which he didnt give me.
And sorry but how a logo could be offensive?
i havent got anyone telling me that is offensive and even if so you cant just whine about a logo.
At this point it's just my opinion im not an extremist and i am an aryan so like it or not i dont see the problem with that.

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You claim admins are uneducated, yet I believe it is the other way around. The whole idea of National Socialism (aka Nazism) is based around RACISM and ANTI-SEMITISM. Sure, you brought up the point that national socialism wasn't entirely about 'killing all the Jews and stuff' -- that was just an extreme form of it brought on by Hitler. However, it doesn't change it's roots -- and because of this, and all related events in the past, how can you NOT think it is offensive? No matter what it's original intent or context, it has been overshadowed by events such as the Holocaust, therefore it has gained a negative connotation. Whether you are/believe you are Aryan [in the context that you meet the physical ideology of the Nazis], does not change whether it is appropriate/non-offensive.

I cannot understand why you think having a gang named 'naazism'/have related gang logo would not be offensive just based on the fact that you 'have blue eyes and blond hair'. It is up to the sole discretion of the uploader to deem whether the content would be offensive or not. You were given multiple chances to follow these rules that were set in place. You were not jailed for your belief or support for national socialism/nazism, but rather the fact that you refused to comply with the rules. So, do not try to play this off as some sad sob story, where you think you are being discriminated against.

Thanks, get educated, and have a nice day

And i want to add the wasnt doing any propaganda about my gang it was a closed fang for me only i wasnt advertising anything.
And by the way being a nazi isnt a crime anywhere sure you cant just be an extremist and out svastikas all over ur house (thing that i dont do.) so im not committing any crime even if you think it is offensive my concept of nazism isnt about racism.

[Vaki]

You claim admins are uneducated, yet I believe it is the other way around. The whole idea of National Socialism (aka Nazism) is based around RACISM and ANTI-SEMITISM. Sure, you brought up the point that national socialism wasn't entirely about 'killing all the Jews and stuff' -- that was just an extreme form of it brought on by Hitler. However, it doesn't change it's roots -- and because of this, and all related events in the past, how can you NOT think it is offensive? No matter what it's original intent or context, it has been overshadowed by events such as the Holocaust, therefore it has gained a negative connotation. Whether you are/believe you are Aryan [in the context that you meet the physical ideology of the Nazis], does not change whether it is appropriate/non-offensive.

I cannot understand why you think having a gang named 'naazism'/have related gang logo would not be offensive just based on the fact that you 'have blue eyes and blond hair'. It is up to the sole discretion of the uploader to deem whether the content would be offensive or not. You were given multiple chances to follow these rules that were set in place. You were not jailed for your belief or support for national socialism/nazism, but rather the fact that you refused to comply with the rules. So, do not try to play this off as some sad sob story, where you think you are being discriminated against.

Thanks, get educated, and have a nice day

It doesn't matter, people should have the freedom to display their beliefs, you are correct that it has been overshadowed by certain events. But I still believe you should be able to state what you believe in. Also you stated that the overshadowing was AN EXTREME FORM. Is he being apart of that EXTREME part? No he is not. Changes it's root? That wasn't the roots, it existed a long time before that.

[DanTheMan]

Please explain to me these 'types of national socialism' that do not involve a form of racial or religious discrimination, because they do not exist -- if you don't support racism, great. That still does not change anything -- that would just be something you do not believe in, but is still a part of, national socialism. You can try to refute this all you want, but I doubt you could show any form of legitimate evidence to dictate otherwise.

Also, stop trying to take what I said out of context. I never called being a 'Nazi' or believer of their beliefs and principles as a crime. The point of me bringing up 'bad history' was not to point fingers, but to shed light on why it can be seen as offensive. I never pointed fingers -- never said you where promoting or forcing your beliefs of Nazism -- never called you an extremist. You don't need to hype something up to try to make a point, it would not be a logical reason anyways.

Your gang was renamed several times so that the majority of the players would not feel offended by it. You refused to take the 'warning', and ended up with no gang at all. Maybe you should have received a better explanation as to why your gang was being renamed. However, you're belief in national socialism (without racial discrimination), still does not change the negative connotation it has gained since the early to mid 1900s. The fact that is offensive to the majority of the WORLD does not seem to stick to you.

You refused to comply with something as simple as this. If you wanted a private gang, where you could speak freely and continually support your beliefs, it would have been wiser for you to choose an acronym of some sort. Once again, it was not due to your actual beliefs or that you are being discriminated against that you were jailed/lost your gang, but your refusal to comply with the rules.

[Shady]

It doesn't matter, people should have the freedom to display their beliefs, you are correct that it has been overshadowed by certain events. But I still believe you should be able to state what you believe in. Also you stated that the overshadowing was AN EXTREME FORM. Is he being apart of that EXTREME part? No he is not. Changes it's root? That wasn't the roots, it existed a long time before that.

He doesnt realize that as long as they ban me for my thought they are being racist just for jailing me for having an opinion, isnt that ridiculous enough? Shouldnt i be offended by being jailed for ''racism''?

[DanTheMan]

It doesn't matter, people should have the freedom to display their beliefs, you are correct that it has been overshadowed by certain events. But I still believe you should be able to state what you believe in. Also you stated that the overshadowing was AN EXTREME FORM. Is he being apart of that EXTREME part? No he is not. Changes it's root? That wasn't the roots, it existed a long time before that.

Please do your research before trying to tell me that 'it existed a long time before that'. The point was that it is seen offensive by most of the world -- he can find many other ways to freely show/speak what he believes in, we just try to limit its exposure. If he felt that he was wronged, he should have brought it up and spoken about it, instead of arguing and insulting us (as well as bringing it to the forums in this fashion -- not showing the whole story). Instead, he chose to keep changing it back and calling us names --- and received a punishment. We are not asking, or forcing him to change his beliefs.

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He doesnt realize that as long as they ban me for my thought they are being racist just for jailing me for having an opinion, isnt that ridiculous enough? Shouldnt i be offended by being jailed for ''racism''?

Do you have a problem with reading? I've stated it twice already -- you were not jailed for your thoughts, but your actions and words.