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    Yes now Fire bitzsam and ban him before he does something crazy

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    Fired before he makes acid gun that becomes chem's sister but has unlimited ammo and 10 damage with same fire rate as chem

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    What is this gross thread, don't nerf something if it isn't broken
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    My only mistake is that my expectations of the majority of this communities ability to understand basic concepts and have an actual realistic discussion of balance and how to make the server fairer is too high.

    Because most of you can't seem to grasp something that should be fairly basic to understand, i'll explain it in pre-school terms in the hopes that will get to some of you.

    Billy has 4 chocolates, his sister sarah has 3. Their mother decided that they both had too much chocolate so she took one away from both of them.
    Billy now has 3 chocolates whilst sarah has 2. Whilst both have less chocolates before, Billy still has 1 more chocolate than sarah does

    Literally. If all guns are effected the same way, the hierarchy of guns stays the same. If BAR is doing 9 damage instead of 10, then The GM4 is doing 8 damage instead of 9. Therefore the BAR is still better because it still requires 1 less shot to kill. Why is is so hard for you guys to understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by imaginary View Post
    Yes now Fire bitzsam and ban him before he does something crazy
    1/10 of the posts you contribute are constructive towards the thread. Every other of the 9 posts are just to get your post count up for some unknown reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiTzSam View Post
    My only mistake is that my expectations of the majority of this communities ability to understand basic concepts and have an actual realistic discussion of balance and how to make the server fairer is too high.

    Because most of you can't seem to grasp something that should be fairly basic to understand, i'll explain it in pre-school terms in the hopes that will get to some of you.

    Billy has 4 chocolates, his sister sarah has 3. Their mother decided that they both had too much chocolate so she took one away from both of them.
    Billy now has 3 chocolates whilst sarah has 2. Whilst both have less chocolates before, Billy still has 1 more chocolate than sarah does

    Literally. If all guns are effected the same way, the hierarchy of guns stays the same. If BAR is doing 9 damage instead of 10, then The GM4 is doing 8 damage instead of 9. Therefore the BAR is still better because it still requires 1 less shot to kill. Why is is so hard for you guys to understand
    My only mistske is that i thought u could read posts

    Most forumer said no many in game will complain. Bitz ur a good guy but no need to change this system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donal4Prez View Post
    My only mistske is that i thought u could read posts

    Most forumer said no many in game will complain. Bitz ur a good guy but no need to change this system.
    Yes but usually when you disagree, you provide an alternative.
    Every response just equates to 'no pls admin my bar is 10 damage I want to kill in 5 bullets admin if this happens I only kill in 6 pls I spent $200 and 5 days convincing my parents to let me buy this gun'

    This games combat system is not that great, there is potential to improve it to make it more fun. This change isnt even big, it just makes guns function the way they were intended to. Perfect shape was not in this game on release, it was added months after, before that guns like the M4 and BAR were only dealing 8 and 9 damage.
    Defenders, runners, connection all gives various advantages. The different connection strengths people have impact the flow of the game. You could be dodging bullets and then all of a sudden your game temporarily freezes and then you are dead right away. Or you could be shooting someone, they then lag and all of a sudden there are 3 bullets coming towards you.
    I'm just trying to lessen the impact some of those unfair things have on you as a player

    Perfect damage was not a gun admin decision. Or something added in order to benefit guns. Perfect shape was added along the mining update a way to force people to start mining and use the minerals instead of it being just another job update that was effectively a slower shovelling job

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiTzSam View Post
    Yes but usually when you disagree, you provide an alternative.
    Every response just equates to 'no pls admin my bar is 10 damage I want to kill in 5 bullets admin if this happens I only kill in 6 pls I spent $200 and 5 days convincing my parents to let me buy this gun'

    This games combat system is not that great, there is potential to improve it to make it more fun. This change isnt even big, it just makes guns function the way they were intended to. Perfect shape was not in this game on release, it was added months after, before that guns like the M4 and BAR were only dealing 8 and 9 damage.
    Defenders, runners, connection all gives various advantages. The different connection strengths people have impact the flow of the game. You could be dodging bullets and then all of a sudden your game temporarily freezes and then you are dead right away. Or you could be shooting someone, they then lag and all of a sudden there are 3 bullets coming towards you.
    I'm just trying to lessen the impact some of those unfair things have on you as a player

    Perfect damage was not a gun admin decision. Or something added in order to benefit guns. Perfect shape was added along the mining update a way to force people to start mining and use the minerals instead of it being just another job update that was effectively a slower shovelling job
    What about the guns that use to deal 5dmg in perfect which needs 10 bullets but after the perfect shape is taken away it will need 3 more bullets and more bullets will be add to those guns that use to deal 4 in perfect and so on are u welling to buff this guns before u take away the perfect shape


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    Quote Originally Posted by BiTzSam View Post
    My only mistake is that my expectations of the majority of this communities ability to understand basic concepts and have an actual realistic discussion of balance and how to make the server fairer is too high.

    Because most of you can't seem to grasp something that should be fairly basic to understand, i'll explain it in pre-school terms in the hopes that will get to some of you.

    Billy has 4 chocolates, his sister sarah has 3. Their mother decided that they both had too much chocolate so she took one away from both of them.
    Billy now has 3 chocolates whilst sarah has 2. Whilst both have less chocolates before, Billy still has 1 more chocolate than sarah does

    Literally. If all guns are effected the same way, the hierarchy of guns stays the same. If BAR is doing 9 damage instead of 10, then The GM4 is doing 8 damage instead of 9. Therefore the BAR is still better because it still requires 1 less shot to kill. Why is is so hard for you guys to understand

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    1/10 of the posts you contribute are constructive towards the thread. Every other of the 9 posts are just to get your post count up for some unknown reason
    What if belly had 4 chocolate bars 2 of them are big bars and sarah had 4 chocolate bars 2 of them are big bars of chocolate and when their mom decided to take one of each she took from billy the big bar of chocolate and when she took from sarah she took the the normal size , thats not fair it represents that guns like flame will need more 3 bullets to kill one person while gm4 and bar will need only 1 bullet to kill i have made a small calculations in the previous page .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beo View Post
    What if belly had 4 chocolate bars 2 of them are big bars and sarah had 4 chocolate bars 2 of them are big bars of chocolate and when their mom decided to take one of each she took from billy the big bar of chocolate and when she took from sarah she took the the normal size , thats not fair it represents that guns like flame will need more 3 bullets to kill one person while gm4 and bar will need only 1 bullet to kill i have made a small calculations in the previous page .


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    I said to ignore those types of guns. The concept is that each gun would require 1 more bullet to kill. Guns like those would be accounted for so that they don't take more than 1 extra

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiTzSam View Post
    I said to ignore those types of guns. The concept is that each gun would require 1 more bullet to kill. Guns like those would be accounted for so that they don't take more than 1 extra
    That fair ,
    1 small complain i dont think i need to make a full thread for it in pz heal room chem still can be used there thanks.


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