READ- Weapon Rebalancing

[Czar Misago]

Gun stats aren't as flexible as that. Freeze rates play a slight part in changing the firerate, even a range as low as 0.29 makes the gun very different

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No because that doesn't mean anything, come back to me in a month and show they've still quit.

I'll admit tap firing does make it a lot faster, but people play hours a day and for the sake of convenience they don't want to tap fire the entire time just to get their so called "money's worth" I get what your doing trying to make the game more fun, more balanced for everyone BUT if we made it to where we are then why cant they? You cater to their every needs yet most of the new people quit in a month at most regardless of the stats of weapons, Its tough to do because we people arent a subject to change, when we buy our bar for 60-70$ or whatever we expect it to be the way we bought it yea? You dont go to the store and buy the best coffee maker in the world and then they say sorry were gonna nerf it and not give you anything in return because the coffee maker is just too good it just doesnt make sense from a business stand point at all, because you are basically saying pay this much money just for the looks of the weapon because its all balanced. We bought bar, ion, psg and all those guns because we liked the stats at the time so unless you plan to give us players something in return for basically screwing us over, its not like these guns come with a warning label "At risk of nerf buy at your own risk" but knowing you to be the ego maniac i know you are you really dont care what we players have to say you think your way is the only way, just because you are the gun admin you think it means you know everything more than us players

[N!chola$]

Well this person really wants me to post what they said so I'll just type it out so I don't have to post it on imgur (Due to the file size, L)

"Changes happen, but why make changes now to help new players? There were plenty of new players before changes were made. The truth is that you don't care"

SO true...

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I'll admit tap firing does make it a lot faster, but people play hours a day and for the sake of convenience they don't want to tap fire the entire time just to get their so called "money's worth" I get what your doing trying to make the game more fun, more balanced for everyone BUT if we made it to where we are then why cant they? You cater to their every needs yet most of the new people quit in a month at most regardless of the stats of weapons, Its tough to do because we people arent a subject to change, when we buy our bar for 60-70$ or whatever we expect it to be the way we bought it yea? You dont go to the store and buy the best coffee maker in the world and then they say sorry were gonna nerf it and not give you anything in return because the coffee maker is just too good it just doesnt make sense from a business stand point at all, because you are basically saying pay this much money just for the looks of the weapon because its all balanced. We bought bar, ion, psg and all those guns because we liked the stats at the time so unless you plan to give us players something in return for basically screwing us over, its not like these guns come with a warning label "At risk of nerf buy at your own risk" but knowing you to be the ego maniac i know you are you really dont care what we players have to say you think your way is the only way, just because you are the gun admin you think it means you know everything more than us players

Dam, that was very well said.

[GenoIndeed]

The tap fire speeds really aren't that great for the bar and plenty of other guns nerfed, theyre pretty slow all around

[BobGraaal]

so dumb.

[PINEHONEY]

Gun stats aren't as flexible as that. Freeze rates play a slight part in changing the firerate, even a range as low as 0.29 makes the gun very different.

I think with the price tag of 200k, a 0.29 could be pretty justifiable compared to the other guns current stats.

[XR]

If you get the tap pattern down it is still pretty fast, surprisingly I was asked alot today, "how are you shooting so fast?". However even with this in mind I disagree the bar's firerate should still be 0.3. I still strongly believe it should still be buffed to at least a 0.29 which will be in line with the shipka's firerate.

Thing is the tapping patterns are so slow, after 3 minutes my fingers have already started to ache from it and it just isn't convenient. And Lyk is right, this game is practically a dictatorship now, Managers need to step up and monitor the power given to select people, and changes should always be discussed among management and the player base. If you worked for a company like Call of Duty, you wouldn't be able to just change the stats, you'd be fired immediately.

[JungleJimmy]

Knowing I'm a skill based player, I realized that this balancing isn't as bad as I thought. Now I can use the M4 without having to switch to my M4a3 just so I don't have to keep losing to the same bar spammer all the time.

[Spazz]

The only thing I do on Graal anymore is mpx and events. Basing on Graal is boring mainly because of all the peace treaties, but also various other reasons. I do not believe the original gun stats were contributing to this problem as there were never any complaints about these guns being too powerful (other than in sparring). Even "noobs" that didn't own guns like the bar believed it to be worth it's price. The whole point is that if your whole idea is to make Graal more competitive and more fair and cause more people to pk... this isn't going to work. It certainly hasn't made me anymore eager to pk or base. I also believe that you should've talked about this with all the other staff members and snk about making this change. I've said this before, but I'll say it again..the problem with Era is not that there's not enough change, the problem is that there are too many changes and some of us just want to play the original Era when it first came out. Rip Era 2011-2017......this is only the beginning.

[BiTzSam]

Use the gun for a week before you start demanding any changes. It's actually ridiculous that people are so unwilling to even try. The changes haven't even been in place for a day. Most people have spent more time complaining than they have actually using the gun.

If you want me to take your complaint seriously don't expect me to do so when you haven't even given the change a chance. Once people start to realise that they can potentially be a better player despite the nerf because they learnt how to use the new stats properly and can take advantage over the less skilled players who relied on the gun to do the majority of the work you will see this change could be for the better.

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I mean seriously. 70% of the people complaining ingame haven't even looked at the Erago changes and are just joining in because their friend told them to

[MikeyUK]

Use the gun for a week before you start demanding any changes. It's actually ridiculous that people are so unwilling to even try. The changes haven't even been in place for a day. Most people have spent more time complaining than they have actually using the gun.

If you want me to take your complaint seriously don't expect me to do so when you haven't even given the change a chance. Once people start to realise that they can potentially be a better player despite the nerf because they learnt how to use the new stats properly and can take advantage over the less skilled players who relied on the gun to do the majority of the work you will see this change could be for the better.

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I mean seriously. 70% of the people complaining ingame haven't even looked at the Erago changes and are just joining in because their friend told them to

Don't listen to those players that are giving you a hard time, what you did is something that greatly helps fight against the whole pay2win aspect of the game. Let the players have their tantrum. Sooner or later, they'll go back to afking at astro.