READ- Weapon Rebalancing

[GenoIndeed]

The people had only asked for the bar to be nerfed, not to this extent, but nerfed. The other changes were done only by your personal preference, BitzSam, not ours. We had no say in anything. We didn't even get to talk about the bars final stats before it was nerfed and that was the biggest issue. And then, all you do is talk about how wrong we are about your ideas we didn't ask for. The guns had a fair price to performance ratio and now thats all messed up, the games pacing feels clunky and awkward which takes a lot of the fun out of the game since eras always had a smooth yet quick gameplay. Best thing to do is to reset everything, and focus on the major issues being the bar and p2ks for now

[douggraal]

THE NERF IS GOOD. And this is coming from a guy who has nearly 250k PK kills, and is pretty decent at sparring as well.

I finally see more gun variety. I finally see how ridiculously bad most people are when it comes to basing. This 'nerf' is really a buff to all the players who've actually taken the time to get friggin' good. Stop whining, and get practicing.


And don't say that I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I've been on iEra a little time after the game started, and even though guns like the BAR were fun and easy to use, as a post said a few pages back (I think Meph said it), it was a terrible decision to put the BAR in. After that, it just became P2W. So yeah, the firerate may be wonky, and the reload time is iffy, but if you put the time and effort into getting good, it's like the guns weren't nerfed.

Rant over, stop *****ing already and get to it.

[BiTzSam]

The people had only asked for the bar to be nerfed, not to this extent, but nerfed. The other changes were done only by your personal preference, BitzSam, not ours. We had no say in anything. We didn't even get to talk about the bars final stats before it was nerfed and that was the biggest issue. And then, all you do is talk about how wrong we are about your ideas we didn't ask for. The guns had a fair price to performance ratio and now thats all messed up, the games pacing feels clunky and awkward which takes a lot of the fun out of the game since eras always had a smooth yet quick gameplay. Best thing to do is to reset everything, and focus on the major issues being the bar and p2ks for now

You said you worked on zone as a gun admin so I don't really see why I need to explain to you why that can't be the case.

The two main guns causing issues were the BAR and the GM4/ION. If both of those guns are nerfed and every other gun is left, then the guns around the statistical level of those two guns would then become superior to the BAR/ GM4.
You can't just nerf the best gun in the game and leave other guns unchanged as then they will just switch to the new 'best' gun and the issues will still persist

[Tasim]

Apparently maturity is lacking in this forums thread, I feel bad for all of the people who are satisfied with the changes as I am. The fact so many people cannot adapt to the change or even attempt to take a positive spin on it is the real issue. Just because you bought something doesn't mean you should have a large advantage over someone. This used to be a pay2win game but with these changes its slowly becoming more skill based, which is important in my opinion. Money shouldn't be equivalent to how far you get, you didn't earn anything, you just bought your way up. Your failure to adapt only shows your weakness as a player and the fact that you need to grow. If you dont want to put in the time to be an actual good player then don't complain. You spent money yes, but you aren't the only person who was affected by the changes, in fact I have a lot of the guns that were changed yet you dont see me crying about it.


It isnt always about you, and what you feel isnt how everyone feels, so before you slam others and call them idiots or wannabes or anything of the like remember what you feel in the end is just one out of hundreds of different responses.

[jaxwashere]

I'm just going to state again to the people on here who agree the way Era handles weapon changes is a problem. Continue to address your concern on the forum. There is nothing wrong with that it's what forums are for.


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[Vendhin]

I'm just going to state again to the people on here who agree the way Era handles weapon changes is a problem. Continue to address your concern on the forum. There is nothing wrong with that it's what forums are for.


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Forums tend to echo like an echo chamber to a certain extent.
People who are unhappy are more likely to post their thoughts than those who are happy- thereby reinforcing their beliefs when other people agree with them
Edit: You see less positive thoughts about the change than negative, not that i'm trying to invalidate peoples opinions or thoughts on the issue- i'm just trying to say that most of the forum comments regarding this issue are of one particular side/viewpoint but that viewpoint might not accurately reflect how a lot of the people who play the game actually think.

[KvNEraa]

" #Complex is the new astro " I don't see that happening to be honest .
Players will either quit or join the MPX community
You've ruined basing and pking , and anyone who disagrees with that is just trying to "suck up"

Here's some Suggestions

1.) Allow old gun stats outside of spar complex and in bases

I totally agree with that ^

[jaxwashere]

Forums tend to echo like an echo chamber to a certain extent.
People who are unhappy are more likely to post their thoughts than those who are happy- thereby reinforcing their beliefs when other people agree with them
Edit: You see less positive thoughts about the change than negative, not that i'm trying to invalidate peoples opinions or thoughts on the issue- i'm just trying to say that most of the forum comments regarding this issue are of one particular side/viewpoint but that viewpoint might not accurately reflect how a lot of the people who play the game actually think.

I agree with that people tend to ride the band wagon. But if you go to the spar complex you see the obvious change or just look at the spar scores, talk to people and read there status. Also the basing community you can just read gangs status and people's comments. People have created gangs for the sole purpose of wanting the guns changed back to original status. Three years in forums and four playing era I've never seen the amount of disagreement about a change this high. This change should be up for discussion and not ignored by the admins.


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[iMagicBae]

Use the gun for a week before you start demanding any changes. It's actually ridiculous that people are so unwilling to even try. The changes haven't even been in place for a day. Most people have spent more time complaining than they have actually using the gun.

If you want me to take your complaint seriously don't expect me to do so when you haven't even given the change a chance. Once people start to realise that they can potentially be a better player despite the nerf because they learnt how to use the new stats properly and can take advantage over the less skilled players who relied on the gun to do the majority of the work you will see this change could be for the better.

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I mean seriously. 70% of the people complaining ingame haven't even looked at the Erago changes and are just joining in because their friend told them to

Thats just how bad it is, do you really think you've fix anything? Players will still find a way around this nerf buying guns as fast and spammy as your akimbo glock, or metal storm or still use guns like the pbp assault rifle for spar that although glock and pbp assault rifle have a considerably lower damage we are now more vulnerable than ever to lose against them.


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[XR]

You said you worked on zone as a gun admin so I don't really see why I need to explain to you why that can't be the case.

The two main guns causing issues were the BAR and the GM4/ION. If both of those guns are nerfed and every other gun is left, then the guns around the statistical level of those two guns would then become superior to the BAR/ GM4.
You can't just nerf the best gun in the game and leave other guns unchanged as then they will just switch to the new 'best' gun and the issues will still persist

You're literally ignoring everything I say, listen to me for once. There were no issues I don't understand where you got that idea from? Bar could've easily just had it's damage reduced by 1 and everything would've been fine. There is no problem with gm4 whatsoever, as YOU said it's got less freeze than a bar just 1 less damage, making it practically the same thing. Ion had no problem, it's just the hitbox is broken but the gun isn't used outside complex. So tell me, what problems?