READ- Weapon Rebalancing

[BiTzSam]

Just because you lost to an m4 using the bar doesn't make the m4 better, just means the problem is you. Go compare the stats, statistically the only benefit the m4 has is a faster reload and 0.02 more spread which is subjective anyway. Basically the same freeze, same firerate but bar has 10 damage. Whilst 1 more damage doesn't seem like a lot, it most definitely is.

Look at the ghost ripper, the smg mode prior to the nerf was widely considered as an extremely effective and sought after gun. Look at the old stats compared to the 40k tec9 and you will see they are almost the same with the main difference being 1 less damage from the tec9. And yet people don't consider the tec9 equal, better or even use it

[Donald]

Um Kim Jong Bitz why were the 65k guns like m8a1, G36 tactical & sawed ak 47 nerfed?

[hohi416]

Can u nerf ak its to op

[jaxwashere]

Just because you lost to an m4 using the bar doesn't make the m4 better, just means the problem is you. Go compare the stats, statistically the only benefit the m4 has is a faster reload and 0.02 more spread which is subjective anyway. Basically the same freeze, same firerate but bar has 10 damage. Whilst 1 more damage doesn't seem like a lot, it most definitely is.

Look at the ghost ripper, the smg mode prior to the nerf was widely considered as an extremely effective and sought after gun. Look at the old stats compared to the 40k tec9 and you will see they are almost the same with the main difference being 1 less damage from the tec9. And yet people don't consider the tec9 equal, better or even use it

I never lost to an m-4 who is saying that? I have m-4 I have a wide variety of weapons. But the bar cost 4X as much as the m-4 and it should perform as so and it doesn't end of story it's only slightly better. Reload and spread make a big difference it's not subjective it's a statistical advantage. So $150k more that's $75 if you decided to use money or idk the shell amount for 1 more damage you basically proved my point.


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[LYK08]

Thats because you are too noob and you do not know how to use the weapons and are now attempting to valuate a weapon's quality with money. It's very subjective here because to you its a disadvantage but to others it's an advantage. So if you fail to adapt and take on the viewpoint of others, then blame yourself.

[jaxwashere]

Thats because you are too noob and you do not know how to use the weapons and are now attempting to valuate a weapon's quality with money. It's very subjective here because to you its a disadvantage but to others it's an advantage. So if you fail to adapt and take on the viewpoint of others, then blame yourself.

If you have to resort to name calling then anything you say is invalid. Bitzsam and Meph are making valid points I won't go back and forward with you. I'm personally not having any problems I can adapt. That doesn't mean the nerf was fair or justified. Your also making assumptions what your in game name?


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[Donald]

Also people complaining about Bar Op is just ridiculous. Bar was ONLY OP when there was gun wall or if you were outnumbered. If you're PKING or sparring against them 1 v 1 you could easily beat them, you just have to notice their pattern, take advantage of their lack variety in footwork & positioning, also take advantage of your surroundings & work with your guns'' strengths, very few Bar users have been memorable IMHO best I've faced was Bruno Tataglia. All this nerfing seems like dumbing down the skill level just because a lot of players are unwilling to go out & put in the time & effort to get good.
I used a 65k & I lost more 5-8K loses with 1.5k wins before I started winning against bar thats because my guns had unique qualityes & I didn't know how to work to its strengths, now after I've gotten good Kim Jong Bitz is complaining my gun is too OP & decides to nerf & give people who don't bother to work & get good an advantage. Honestly this seems like silly game of wack a mole, its only a matter of time before Kim Jong Bitz decides the new popular gun is too OP or too good for its price & decides to nerf it, without seeing how much effort we put in to getting good.
Honestly, this is very discouraging why should we be the one who get punished because of noobs who don''t bother to get good?
Whats the point of putting in effort to learn & save for a gun, only to to have an admin decides later after you've mastered your craft that its not fair on noobs so lets nerf your gun to be fair to lazy noobs?

[AlexDanielPali]

How about nerfing the minigun too? It is a spammy weapon too because you just hold the fire button and you kill many people with it just in few seconds


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[MikeyUK]

You dont even pk lmao.

Literally nowhere in that statement did I mention the word PK or said that I PKed.

[jaxwashere]

How about nerfing the minigun too? It is a spammy weapon too because you just hold the fire button and you kill many people with it just in few seconds


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Mini was nerfed several times already. I doubt he will touch it again. It's also not that good only descent for pk imo.


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