Basing System Rework

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

A PK protection timer has been added to the respawn room, lasts 3 seconds from exiting the respawn building from bases. Added so that the spawn buildings can't be camped by pkers, and you have some protection whilst you're running back to the base.

Ally/ Gang member identification and Fort rework should be the next changes to come.

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So that makes chem useless, as pking at forts was about the only use for it

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Originally Posted by snk

I'm not sure the issue - legacy gangs can still earn hours with tougher competition as you're all in one base and new gangs have a bigger opportunity to join the elite.

What you can do is a trial - if it doesn't work you reverse. Trial it for two weeks and see the results. If the lower tier gangs gain more hours and the legacy gangs enjoy the competition you know it's a winner.

Alternatively, you could just create ONE more base for the LEGACY gangs to compete which includes allies.

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He doesn't do trials, he runs whatever idea he has in his mind without caring what anyone else says in accordance achieve HIS ideal of the best era possible.

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Originally Posted by Blitz Canavi

I agree with what Journey said, It's not really much different then just respawning with full health.

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It's not about respawning with low health, it's to give a gap between the time you kill someone, and them coming back into a base.

Imagine you're basing in a packed base with lots of members on each side. Do you really want to be killing the base defenders, just for them to spawn at the base entrance, then run back in and start shooting you within 3-4 seconds after you've killed them when you're likely already hurt?

That extra few seconds the respawn adds means that as an attacker you may be able to kill enough enemies to take the base before they can get back in time.
As a defender, if you're a strong gang then it means you can keep pushing back attackers/ get some time to set up after taking the base.

The change benefits everyone from basing, the only reason people are unhappy about it is because it 'slightly' reduces the amount of pks they can get during fort.

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Originally Posted by iMagicBae

He doesn't do trials, he runs whatever idea he has in his mind without caring what anyone else says in accordance achieve HIS ideal of the best era possible.

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This change isn't my idea alone, it was agreed on by the majority of staff. There was a 2 and a half hour call between like 15 staff members just discussing these changes alone.

Majority of the points on the first page were part my idea/ part other staff, other things not listed that were added in game- eg respawn rooms- were others ideas by other staff that I also supported.

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Originally Posted by Spazz

So that makes chem useless, as pking at forts was about the only use for it

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Tbh, Chem shouldn't be even existing in era. It was dumb creating such an OP gun.

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Originally Posted by Trix

Tbh, Chem shouldn't be even existing in era. It was dumb creating such an OP gun.

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Well, then in that case they should remove it.

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Originally Posted by Spazz

Well, then in that case they should remove it.

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And how would you suggest players that bought the chemical gun be compensated?

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Originally Posted by Trix

Tbh, Chem shouldn't be even existing in era. It was dumb creating such an OP gun.

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Bitzsam wasn't the one to create this gun it was some other admin

Are you going to notify us like a week or two in advance before everything switches?

For the people complaining about fort, I am trying to get a new event added which will basically be the same concept as what fort was (getting pks in a time frame) except instead of it being held in bases, it will be held in the pk arena near start, and will be based on the top 3 players with the most pks. Will probably run in the time space between the new fort events.

For those who missed it earlier, fort is getting reworked to make it include the actual basing part rather than just pks

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

For the people complaining about fort, I am trying to get a new event added which will basically be the same concept as what fort was (getting pks in a time frame) except instead of it being held in bases, it will be held in the pk arena near start, and will be based on the top 3 players with the most pks. Will probably run in the time space between the new fort events.

For those who missed it earlier, fort is getting reworked to make it include the actual basing part rather than just pks

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Can you make players enable to Team there ? Like if we had the same tag we could still dmg each other or anyone with tag can’t enter the arena cuz u kno teamers r annoying

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

For the people complaining about fort, I am trying to get a new event added which will basically be the same concept as what fort was (getting pks in a time frame) except instead of it being held in bases, it will be held in the pk arena near start, and will be based on the top 3 players with the most pks. Will probably run in the time space between the new fort events.

For those who missed it earlier, fort is getting reworked to make it include the actual basing part rather than just pks

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HMMM idk what to say im excited :DDD
Thx bitzsam this is like a compensation for our pks we lose over the new forting system

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

For the people complaining about fort, I am trying to get a new event added which will basically be the same concept as what fort was (getting pks in a time frame) except instead of it being held in bases, it will be held in the pk arena near start, and will be based on the top 3 players with the most pks. Will probably run in the time space between the new fort events.

For those who missed it earlier, fort is getting reworked to make it include the actual basing part rather than just pks

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That’s a good idea, but since it’s individual players, I suggest doing the top 10 players receive a cash price based on where they placed. Forts usually attract 50+ people, and more than 3 spots should be rewarded or else people might not show up seeing how low the chances are

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Originally Posted by XR

That’s a good idea, but since it’s individual players, I suggest doing the top 10 players receive a cash price based on where they placed. Forts usually attract 50+ people, and more than 3 spots should be rewarded or else people might not show up seeing how low the chances are

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And extra gralats depending on how many kills they got

BTW, fort in bbz just ended and darkside won first place and theres no second and third place, did fort just got updated?

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Originally Posted by Key

BTW, fort in bbz just ended and darkside won first place and theres no second and third place, did fort just got updated?

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Say goodbye to gz during gz fort

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

For the people complaining about fort, I am trying to get a new event added which will basically be the same concept as what fort was (getting pks in a time frame) except instead of it being held in bases, it will be held in the pk arena near start, and will be based on the top 3 players with the most pks. Will probably run in the time space between the new fort events.

For those who missed it earlier, fort is getting reworked to make it include the actual basing part rather than just pks

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What about the rewards for such new event?

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So after 2 forts first darkside won bbz second at gz Gpn won 1 and Some gang name bozos got 2nd with 1 kill.

So in order to place in a fort u need to take base or pk the base?

Yea it got updated so only PKs from the gang holding the base count towards the total PKs. This means you half to keep fighting for the actual gang base, try to take it and then PK to try and win.

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Originally Posted by iMagicBae

What about the rewards for such new event?

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No... The reward aside from gralats is that you can get fast pks compared to normal gameplay. There doesn't need to be rewards on top of that

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Originally Posted by Azuko

So after 2 forts first darkside won bbz second at gz Gpn won 1 and Some gang name bozos got 2nd with 1 kill.

So in order to place in a fort u need to take base or pk the base?

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I just got 3750$ with 1 single kill LOL

hahahah GJ trix xD

Kind of happy fort was reworked, because doing it led to a discovery that kind of showed how broken it was. For whatever reason, Fort used to count DEATHS as kills. So the winner wasn't really decided on who killed the most, it also included who died the most and just counted that as part of the total kills...

Advantage of this new system and disadvantage of it.
Advantage- it encourages more basing and positive pking when fort.
Disadvantage- the gang which home base the base will always win 1st place. 2nd and 3rd place will be won by other gangs with low amount of points. People won't be joining fort gang anymore but they will join the home base gang.

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Originally Posted by Trix

Advantage of this new system and disadvantage of it.
Advantage- it encourages more basing and positive pking when fort.
Disadvantage- the gang which home base the base will always win 1st place. 2nd and 3rd place will be won by other gangs with low amount of points. People won't be joining fort gang anymore but they will join the home base gang.

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Give it time, looking at the event running now, not everyone has realised they have to take the base. If all participating gangs were going for the base, the home base wouldn't really be able to keep holding it. The only advantage they'd get is the initial opening part of FORT as they'd already have the base.

If it becomes a constant problem then we could probably kick out the existing gang holding the base when the event starts, lock all the doors for a few minutes and then have them all open for gangs to run in at the same time to try be the first to take the base

And yea we know about the bug not counting kills, that'll be looked at soon. There is no way to actually test fort changes before they're done so think of the first few as bug tests

Gj bitzsam i lsaw what happened and told everyone that you need to take base and hold the base in order for ur gang to win

sadly 50% of forters still havent realized in the first minutes of fort that you needed to take base all they did was to block door and its kinda annoying

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Attachment 31994Im kinda happy we made history right here

Fort should be fixed, the issue was specifically with boxfactory being named wrong in the script, so should be working for other bases.

The PK arena event is likely the next thing to be added. When implemented it should happen 45 minutes after every 2nd fort killer event and last 30 minutes.

Cool im excited since no one even goes to pk arena its likely needed to be used or it will be waste
But im asking what would be the rewards?

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Originally Posted by Azuko

Cool im excited since no one even goes to pk arena its likely needed to be used or it will be waste
But im asking what would be the rewards?

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Same as fort, gralats and pks

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

Same as fort, gralats and pks

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Isn’t it the time to add fort to guerre zone? Why its the only base without fort i wonder


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i truly agree since the new forting system applies to all bases why not add guerre?

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Originally Posted by Azuko

i truly agree since the new forting system applies to all bases why not add guerre?

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Also the basing death room isnt there aswell

I personally liked the new version of forting.
I think that it gave gangs much more focus and competition over the primary base holders, and I saw this at Box Factory. It was a huge back and forth battle that was frustrating yet rewarding at the same time.
It's a love-hate thing right now.

So now in fort, kills get counted only while holding the base ? I’m confused

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Originally Posted by imaginary

So now in fort, kills get counted only while holding the base ? I’m confused

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Exactly sounds like extra money for base gangs
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Originally Posted by Beo

Exactly
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Damn the 2nd gang is lucky af.
And finally ... top fort gangs’ bs and rumors are gone. Fort rules (what’s allowed and what’s not) should be written ingame

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Originally Posted by imaginary

Damn the 2nd gang is lucky af.
And finally ... top fort gangs’ bs and rumors are gone. Fort rules (what’s allowed and what’s not) should be written ingame

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Bitzsam made a announcement, and specified what it meant for those who didnt understand words

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Originally Posted by MasonForEc

Bitzsam made a announcement, and specified what it meant for those who didnt understand words

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I wasn’t on

I think requiring the flag is a step in the right direction. I think gangs need a little more time to organize and prepare an attack on the base. I think a 5-10 minute warning that fort will be starting would be helpful, otherwise the gang holding the base at the start has a huge advantage.

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Originally Posted by Vacci

I think requiring the flag is a step in the right direction. I think gangs need a little more time to organize and prepare an attack on the base. I think a 5-10 minute warning that fort will be starting would be helpful, otherwise the gang holding the base at the start has a huge advantage.

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There is no need for a warning u can track down when the fort will start by opening the map u will find the time left on the top of the map


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And now base gangs will profit even more.

this improvement is a great idea. great job bitzsam keep it up