Are you going to allow a few people to be able to test the new system before it's released, besides administrators?Quote:
Originally Posted by BiTzSam
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Are you going to allow a few people to be able to test the new system before it's released, besides administrators?Quote:
Originally Posted by BiTzSam
6/10 are over 10k hours though so they will have a chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by XR
DarkSide is stopping at 25k.Quote:
Originally Posted by ibrian34
Not true 1 major gang can have 2 gangs going for 2k and get it
They stop becuase the reward. You dont think they will comtinue for this gang points thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperSam
That's why the gang fortress is though. If they want hours they have to try and claim. I don't really see gangs going 'ohwell lets just let darkside/ obs hold that base and quit'. They would get lots of members and war against one of the 3 bases to try take it. And the gang they take the base from will do the same. It will be a constant gang war which would be awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by ibrian34
Also Darkside/ Obs will only really have their 25 members as their allies can't enter the base, which means they won't be able to call on anyone to help them (which is what helps those gangs hold the bases)
Most likely not, because Ww has a life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomlacroixgraal
Gtg a new gang took one of my bases ima call some allies brb.
Can you like close this thread and make a new one stating the same stuff and have us private message questions and you post them here with answers just so many questions
Nope, because the big gangs will make new tags and continue to hold those bases, they won’t need to worry about a “gang fortress” cause nobody will attack anybody due to all the alliances. This is only giving gangs more hoursQuote:
Originally Posted by Czar Misago
This will be the truth that, if 10k hours gangs are squeezed into a 3 flags base, definitely, there will be awesome war because all the 10k hours gangs are all ego and none of them don't want to surrender. But this is the reality that below 10k hours bases are going to get ruled by 10k hours gang
The base layouts, probablyQuote:
Originally Posted by SuperSam
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The big gangs can't hold their base in the gang fortress, and be able to hold bases on other tags at the same time. The gang fortress will be 24/7 wars, Those big gangs will need ALL their members and concentration just to be able to hold the gang fortress base.Quote:
Originally Posted by XR
What I would like to see, is a new base for those that has under 500 basing hours to attempt to home. That, would be a war I would want to see.
Love everything except these two points
- Door and Vault (flag) HP values will be INCREASED. Meaning it will take more damage to destroy a door/ take a base.
The gang hideout gang hour requirement will also be increased from its current value to roughly 12.5k base hours
saying instead of warring for a spot at the fortress they will create new gangs and stay in the 10k under but hey probably wont cause who wants to restart after making it so farQuote:
Originally Posted by BiTzSam
Ok guyss im back my members sorted it already spammed up some allies and bam another new gang knocked down.
Anyway :)
New gangs can get bases. We got 2k then had to fight a year and a half before we got another home base but we kept fighting allies with other small gangs and we got our chance again. You say bases should be earnt yet you want to give them to new gangs with no contest?
That won't really work out as it'd be too competitive just to earn those low hours. The reason why the competitiveness is important for the 10k+ hours is because those rewards are actually substantial.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperSam
Obsidian would win and all the other gangs would just go back on another tag holding bases. Better yet they’d share the fortress and it would be an afk place like all the other bases.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiTzSam
sounds very fun much more interesting than basing right now
as it is now like you said the "big" gangs got their bases sometimes people pk them or try to take the base then they have allies and its game over but this way it might change it in a way that there will be more war and that would be fun imo
Agree :D
Finally a help for new gangs.
Why? Remember, those things haven't changed since the start of basing, and back then fast melees like hunter knife were only from admin events so not many people had them. Everybody else had machetes that were much slower, which meant it took longer to take the flag. Now everyone has the fast melees so you can just rush a base flagQuote:
Originally Posted by imaginary
I see, but won't that cause the other 3 weaker gangs, (or maybe obs will take all 3) to not get any base time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Czar Misago
Oh hell no there's gonna be competition at those bases dude do you know all those gangs that raid randomly throughout the day? Imagine 20 more of them now because they have hope they can get the base now BECAUSE the big gangs are goneQuote:
Originally Posted by Tomlacroixgraal
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Sorry dude but did you even read the original post bitzsam made, HOw will they hold all 3 with 5 other 10k+ gangs raiding them and ALSO they wont really have allies because even when you're allied you can kill each otherQuote:
Originally Posted by ibrian34
Where would the fortress be located? I'd say you should move it to mafia and take the base and stuff around it somewhere else like where the arcade is currently and put mafia's shops around, then move the arcade, bank, and pet shop to where ever. Maybe for the first map of the fortress you could use the Countryside base levels so release is quicker and testing may begin.
They can't share the fortress that's what you aren't getting. Right now there are enough bases to go around for the big gangs that's why alliances exist. In the fortress there are ONLY 3 bases to choose from. Which means 3 out of minimum 6 gangs (with more coming back as active/ reaching 10k at a later date) will have a base, the rest not. Those gangs without a base will not stop attacking until they take a base, as it's the ONLY way they can earn hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by XR
Do you really think gangs like GPN will go 'ok obsidian/ darkside, you guys can share the bases whilst we sit and wait for you to get 10k more base hours'. No. They will break the alliance to get a base for themselves. Every gang for themselves.
Wait. Now you need 12.5k for hats and hideout?
Ok there might be 5 new gangs butnin a 2 years or so it will still be that same 5 gangs becuase they will ally lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Czar Misago
I'm really ok with the hp increasing, because there are players that just come to pk in the base to make us mad, this would be harder for them to do thisQuote:
Originally Posted by imaginary
Yea but those gangs will reach 10k eventually then they move to the fortressQuote:
Originally Posted by Tomlacroixgraal
Get rid of sub tags lowkey only way coz you have to fill your gang with ranks to be able to 24/7 or to double base anyway so can barley rec to main
What about Ebasing
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He did because he's making it to where you can kill sub tags and sub tags can kill main and other sub tags can kill each otherQuote:
Originally Posted by Tomlacroixgraal
Yes after 1-2 years so its not a solution that will work lomg term coz thats only 5 new gangs whihc is fonna be old gangs in a new tga anywya kets be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Czar Misago
So basically, a problem Era had years ago involving sub tags.Quote:
Originally Posted by Czar Misago
Hideout yes, hats no. I said you'd get more hats at 4k as the hideout was being movedQuote:
Originally Posted by Wast
And if it goes right back to how it was guess what!! He'll wait a little bit and delete the under 10k bases and then they'll be warring each otherQuote:
Originally Posted by Tomlacroixgraal
Good but doesnt need the base fortress bs jus change subs so u cant have 50 members defending one base.Quote:
Originally Posted by Czar Misago
Idk I always have trouble to break doors / switch to a melee to break the door while enemies attacking me (especially when the base is crowded. Yes ik I’m supposed to kill them first but by the time I do, the ones I killed are alrdy back to the flag room) and it takes forever to break it w a gun alrdy (although I use dual rafficas)Quote:
Originally Posted by BiTzSam
This system is going to be temporarily effective, after weeks of war, every base is going to be peaceful again.
They won't be able to ally because there will be too many gangs attacking, this is because of the gang point system. You don't have to have hours already to win gang points, just earn the most hours in 3 months, not overall. Which means you might get sparring gangs basing for 6 months a year JUST to get gang points so that they can get the gang point rewards, and not need to base a full 2k hours to get anythingQuote:
Originally Posted by Tomlacroixgraal