Why Era is Dying.

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Originally Posted by NaniRima

Yo, stop wanting to tax everything lol

Think outside the box, what is next? Taxing events too so that people who don’t win can win now?

There are other ways around this that we can come up that doesn’t have to have players pay fees for something.

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Excuse me no sorry you're posting too much

We're going to have to tax the forums too

okay back to the main topic

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One thing that will have to be taxed is High value duty goods that's a sure thing.

It's not about affording to base. The tax is to discourage them from basing so excessively that it deprives other gangs of the chance to base. It's called social equity that needs to be achieved because the current system neglects that and the fortress does not solve this issue by letting a new batch of monopolists dominate.

I believe the area tax for forting events help to reduce lag and improve the integrity of the event because people are winning due to their skills, and not because they had an edge in lags. It also ensures that Pkers who pk out of the base are killing people due to their skills, not spamming at the doors and causing lag. Tax the Pkers!



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Originally Posted by NaniRima

Yo, stop wanting to tax everything lol

Think outside the box, what is next? Taxing events too so that people who don’t win can win now?

There are other ways around this that we can come up that doesn’t have to have players pay fees for something.

Wouldn’t be it a lot more fun if we found a solution to this where whoever gets to the top is because of effort, skill, looking for strategies? Taxation will not solve the problem we currently have, and it will not take away the boredom that some players are facing atm.

We want to make this fun, something for people to enjoy with their friends. Something that will make them say “I want to get to the top” not something that will not only give newer gangs a free pass from other gangs who put in the effort. We don’t want players scratching their heads thinking how they are going to afford basing eventually. It’s going to be a hassle for players.

It’s almost as if you want to make it sound sofisticated when it is not, this system of yours is not the only way, and although I don’t have an idea at the moment I am sure there are other things we can do to solve the problem.

Just because an idea is out on the table does not mean that it is the best one or that it will be the only one out on the table..

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Originally Posted by LYK08

One thing that will have to be taxed is High value duty goods that's a sure thing.

It's not about affording to base. The tax is to discourage them from basing so excessively that it deprives other gangs of the chance to base. It's called social equity that needs to be achieved because the current system neglects that and the fortress does not solve this issue by letting a new batch of monopolists dominate.

I believe the area tax for forting events help to reduce lag and improve the integrity of the event because people are winning due to their skills, and not because they had an edge in lags. It also ensures that Pkers who pk out of the base are killing people due to their skills, not spamming at the doors and causing lag. Tax the Pkers!



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Wow

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Originally Posted by LYK08

One thing that will have to be taxed is High value duty goods that's a sure thing.

It's not about affording to base. The tax is to discourage them from basing so excessively that it deprives other gangs of the chance to base. It's called social equity that needs to be achieved because the current system neglects that and the fortress does not solve this issue by letting a new batch of monopolists dominate.

I believe the area tax for forting events help to reduce lag and improve the integrity of the event because people are winning due to their skills, and not because they had an edge in lags. It also ensures that Pkers who pk out of the base are killing people due to their skills, not spamming at the doors and causing lag. Tax the Pkers!



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Originally Posted by junz

Taxing isn't something we'll ever incorporate.
So I'd suggest moving onto another suggestion as that one isn't a possibility at any point.

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Okay, you need to get over taxing.


Junz already said it's not going to happen. Get past it already, gosh.

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Originally Posted by BL1NK

Excuse me no sorry you're posting too much

We're going to have to tax the forums too

okay back to the main topic

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Gonna tax you for having a number in your name. 7 million gralats per millisecond.

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Originally Posted by BL1NK

Okay, you need to get over taxing.


Junz already said it's not going to happen. Get past it already, gosh.

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Tax of 3 million gralats for saying "gosh".

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Originally Posted by AliGamer911

Gonna tax you for having a number in your name. 15 gralats a second.

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Dang you got me :((((

I feel like there should be rewards for working.
The one reason why I liked pizza is because of the hats and such that come with it.

What if we created a rare item that comes out of digging (like a 0.1-0.3% chance to come out) and it is similar to that of a chest, where you open it and the item can vary, like a brella or something of that sort?



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Originally Posted by BL1NK

Dang you got me :((((

I feel like there should be rewards for working.
The one reason why I liked pizza is because of the hats and such that come with it.

What if we created a rare item that comes out of digging (like a 0.1-0.3% chance to come out) and it is similar to that of a chest, where you open it and the item can vary, like a brella or something of that sort?



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I think crabs are supposed to be that rare (and annoying) item that you get when while digging.
However, I do like your loot system idea. I think finding things like buried bags with awesome loot inside should he a thing, and I agree with the spawn rates if it's good, it should be rare.

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Originally Posted by AliGamer911

I think crabs are supposed to be that rare (and annoying) item that you get when while digging.
However, I do like your loot system idea. I think finding things like buried bags with awesome loot inside should he a thing, and I agree with the spawn rates if it's good, it should be rare.

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Could also do a coins system, and if you collect enough coins, you can get really cool items.

Similar to the previous Easter promo and it'd encourage trade prices to be meager for the coin (assuming the drop rate is okay).

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Originally Posted by BL1NK

Could also do a coins system, and if you collect enough coins, you can get really cool items.

Similar to the previous Easter promo and it'd encourage trade prices to be meager for the coin (assuming the drop rate is okay).

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I don't recommend it as that might have an effect on the trading economy. Releasing coins, a currency, might (I bloody said might) rival with the tro as the tro is just a shell and new players would start to use the coin aaaaaaaand you can guess where this might lead to.

I think car driving has caused may players to earn too fast a money we need to impose a Income Fee of 50 percent of all earnings they earn.

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Originally Posted by LYK08

I think car driving has caused may players to earn too fast a money we need to impose a Income Fee of 50 percent of all earnings they earn.

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How is earning money too fast a bad thing?

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Perhaps they should make a storyline concept in Era. It'll be progressive until a year or so. It'll feature a variety of quests that'll usually reward you with a small (50-200gralats) up to a decent fraction of gralats (1000-3000), and or an exclusive item/s (like the Carnival monster mount from last year's Halloween). The rewards will depend on the difficulty of the quest itself, including the progress and perhaps the performance you make.

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Originally Posted by Sho Minazuki

Perhaps they should make a storyline concept in Era. It'll be progressive until a year or so. It'll feature a variety of quests that'll usually reward you with a small (50-200gralats) up to a decent fraction of gralats (1000-3000), and or an exclusive item/s (like the Carnival monster mount from last year's Halloween). The rewards will depend on the difficulty of the quest itself, including the progress and perhaps the performance you make.

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There was a thing I'd heard about a long time ago with a Morano Family plot.


This is really interesting. I really like this idea.

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Originally Posted by BL1NK

How is earning money too fast a bad thing?

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Lol he trolling now

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Originally Posted by Sho Minazuki

Perhaps they should make a storyline concept in Era. It'll be progressive until a year or so. It'll feature a variety of quests that'll usually reward you with a small (50-200gralats) up to a decent fraction of gralats (1000-3000), and or an exclusive item/s (like the Carnival monster mount from last year's Halloween). The rewards will depend on the difficulty of the quest itself, including the progress and perhaps the performance you make.

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A good idea but making a story demands time and most importantly, authors, and I don't think we have too many of those.

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Originally Posted by AliGamer911

Lol he trolling now


A good idea but making a story demands time and most importantly, authors, and I don't think we have too many of those.

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They could also build it up slowly-

Think of Telltale's Walking Dead Series, they didn't fit it all into one, they kept you waiting and wanting more.

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The storyline concept is simply an essence that usually keeps an Rpg interesting and fun. Of course it'll take alot of work and effort. It'll be frustrating as well. But, think of the bright sides it could make once it becomes a reality here in Era.

Also, I feel that many mafia gangs are gathering at many locations in game and their gathering has often resulted in unneeded gang fights and conflicts and excessive and abusive verbal exchange, we should tax these players.

It shall be called the Overstaying Tax. If members of the same gang gather in the same area (except in bases) for more than 45 minutes, they will be taxed at 10 graalats per minute , so overstaying for 24 hours will incur them 14400 graalats.

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That's what's makes a decent or good on-going story interesting, because you'll have to imagine and even try to perceive what'll be next (basing on the current and previous parts) a good hypothetical situation would be watching an on going anime series without knowing the manga of that anime or the game counterpart storyline.

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Originally Posted by BL1NK

They could also build it up slowly-

Think of Telltale's Walking Dead Series, they didn't fit it all into one, they kept you waiting and wanting more.

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Originally Posted by Sho Minazuki

The storyline concept is simply an essence that usually keeps an Rpg interesting and fun. Of course it'll take alot of work and effort. It'll be frustrating as well. But, think of the bright sides it could make once it becomes a reality here in Era.

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If it's possible, I'd love to see that.

Lyk, your ideology regarding about taxing almost everything on Era is simply unorthodox. This is not the real world, trying to apply something so irrational in this kind of game will only cause a catastrophe leading the game to it's total downfall. You just couldn't accept the fact that the majority here doesn't like your idea, even the staffs already told you it'll never be implemented.

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Making the story won't be really much of a problem, however it's up to the official staffs of the game to make it canon or not. Either way, I'm glad you guys were able to see my point. And let's hope they can make it possible as a trump card against Era's downfall.

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From the way I see it, Era is a mafia and police themed game. So basically first off all, you'll have to choose one side first (You won't be able to change sides, only 1 side per acc). Secondly, you can only complete a quest once to make things abit more difficult as well as realistic and interesting. Thirdly, the quest pattern will be the same as any other regular rpgs (Ex : Complete the first quest to have access to the second quest, and so on and on)

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Oh, and perhaps this'll make the faction system in Era essential to the storyline. For instance, if you have chose the Police side, you'll need to have a low-high percentage in the Police faction to gain access the their quests.

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To gain access to their quests"

This game is dying, i think theres only few time remaining to act and try to save it, we all know who can make this game alive again, only someone can do it. i got told the player database is dropping HARD, probably because people is busy with school or they are just enjoying another games that is more awesome ������

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Originally Posted by Killjoy

This game is dying, i think theres only few time remaining to act and try to save it, we all know who can make this game alive again, only someone can do it. i got told the player database is dropping HARD, probably because people is busy with school or they are just enjoying another games that is more awesome ������

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Oh and by the way, we all know those last years era wasnt fun anymore but it was still a bit competitive, thats why most of the « pro’s » were still playing this game. But since its not fun, and theres no competitive aspects, then everyone is leaving(gst 2016/2017/basing system dead/etc..) so congratulations for killing a game your working for.

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Originally Posted by Killjoy

Oh and by the way, we all know those last years era wasnt fun anymore but it was still a bit competitive, thats why most of the « pro’s » were still playing this game. But since its not fun, and theres no competitive aspects, then everyone is leaving(gst 2016/2017/basing system dead/etc..) so congratulations for killing a game your working for.

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You mean gst 2017/2018?

the problem with the storyline/quests idea is what happens once you do that? nothing. sure, it's fun for a few hours, it may get repetitive, but it's fun. era needs something long-term that keeps players coming back more and more and that they can keep competing for and keep on progressing to do. basing is pretty pointless since there's already a few powerhouses that have a lock on pretty much every base.

era just needs something long term because aside from hanging out with your friends and doing an occasional event every day, there's not enough here to give players an incentive to keep playing.

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Originally Posted by Killjoy

This game is dying, i think theres only few time remaining to act and try to save it, we all know who can make this game alive again, only someone can do it. i got told the player database is dropping HARD, probably because people is busy with school or they are just enjoying another games that is more awesome ������

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Oh and by the way, we all know those last years era wasnt fun anymore but it was still a bit competitive, thats why most of the « pro’s » were still playing this game. But since its not fun, and theres no competitive aspects, then everyone is leaving(gst 2016/2017/basing system dead/etc..) so congratulations for killing a game your working for.

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Originally Posted by Killjoy

This game is dying, i think theres only few time remaining to act and try to save it, we all know who can make this game alive again, only someone can do it. i got told the player database is dropping HARD, probably because people is busy with school or they are just enjoying another games that is more awesome ������

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Oh and by the way, we all know those last years era wasnt fun anymore but it was still a bit competitive, thats why most of the « pro’s » were still playing this game. But since its not fun, and theres no competitive aspects, then everyone is leaving(gst 2016/2017/basing system dead/etc..) so congratulations for killing a game your working for.

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I agree, time is slipping before the game takes a significant dip in activity.

GST 2016, 2017, and 2018 all were flawed (latency, crashing issues and honestly, '18 wasn't horrible, just a lot of re-matches and that 'cheating' scandal), the lack of true competition is also created a precedence where players felt out-matched.

So that's where this new idea comes in.

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What if we classify every player into a category based on their wins?

In games I've played, they've classified players into categories based on their levels.

Say, if you have 500-1000 wins, you're ranked Bronze II (lulz, I'm sorry, this part is still being worked out)

This would encourage players to seek out players based on their given level as well, and it'd be interesting to see how it'd be implemented.

Bronze III
Bronze II
Bronze I
Silver III
Silver II
Silver I
Gold III
Gold II
Gold I
Platinum III
Platinum II
Platinum I
Elite III
Elite II
Elite I

(I couldn't think of names and this is pretty universal.)

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Originally Posted by BL1NK

What if we classify every player into a category based on their wins?

In games I've played, they've classified players into categories based on their levels.

Say, if you have 500-1000 wins, you're ranked Bronze II (lulz, I'm sorry, this part is still being worked out)

This would encourage players to seek out players based on their given level as well, and it'd be interesting to see how it'd be implemented.

Bronze III
Bronze II
Bronze I
Silver III
Silver II
Silver I
Gold III
Gold II
Gold I
Platinum III
Platinum II
Platinum I
Elite III
Elite II
Elite I

(I couldn't think of names and this is pretty universal.)

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Wins doesnt really mean you have the skill to match other players who have the same amount of wins, for example someone who has just acquired 500 spar wins over 2 years who is an average player matching against a player whos got 500 wins in 2 weeks because they grind spar and get wins pretty rapidly. I like your idea as its used in competitive games like CS GO, Rainbow Six Siege, League Of Legends etc etc but it would have to be an elo system. Where each win you get a set of points and to reach a rank you need a set amount of points and when you lose you lose a set amount of points. But that would be very complex to make so i guess your idea then makes sense but still it all depends on what can be done.

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Originally Posted by BL1NK

I agree, time is slipping before the game takes a significant dip in activity.

GST 2016, 2017, and 2018 all were flawed (latency, crashing issues and honestly, '18 wasn't horrible, just a lot of re-matches and that 'cheating' scandal), the lack of true competition is also created a precedence where players felt out-matched.

So that's where this new idea comes in.

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What if we classify every player into a category based on their wins?

In games I've played, they've classified players into categories based on their levels.

Say, if you have 500-1000 wins, you're ranked Bronze II (lulz, I'm sorry, this part is still being worked out)

This would encourage players to seek out players based on their given level as well, and it'd be interesting to see how it'd be implemented.

Bronze III
Bronze II
Bronze I
Silver III
Silver II
Silver I
Gold III
Gold II
Gold I
Platinum III
Platinum II
Platinum I
Elite III
Elite II
Elite I

(I couldn't think of names and this is pretty universal.)

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It should be W:L, not just W. But good idea! :D

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Originally Posted by AliGamer911

It should be W:L, not just W. But good idea! :D

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It was worth a shot :((((

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Originally Posted by iMonkey

Wins doesnt really mean you have the skill to match other players who have the same amount of wins, for example someone who has just acquired 500 spar wins over 2 years who is an average player matching against a player whos got 500 wins in 2 weeks because they grind spar and get wins pretty rapidly. I like your idea as its used in competitive games like CS GO, Rainbow Six Siege, League Of Legends etc etc but it would have to be an elo system. Where each win you get a set of points and to reach a rank you need a set amount of points and when you lose you lose a set amount of points. But that would be very complex to make so i guess your idea then makes sense but still it all depends on what can be done.

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That's true, maybe we can do a W:L ratio as Ali suggested?

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Originally Posted by BL1NK

That's true, maybe we can do a W:L ratio as Ali suggested?

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Always do what I suggest.

The only thing that would help Graal from losing it's players would be major changes, obvious major changes. It blows my mind they haven't been made and I really believe all the servers will continue to diminish in users.

Alright I shall sum up the new viable and favourable policies thus far

1. Anti-monopolist Cap Rate of 10 gralat per minute levied on gang leaders of gangs with base hours of more than 5000 hours.

2. "Duty and administration" fee for trading goods of base value with a minimum of 100k gralats on buyers.

3. Area Rent for Pkers near bases during forts.

4. Land Lease fee for basing gangs with more than 5k hours of 5k gralats for holding a second base.

As you can see, there aren't any taxes here. It's all administration fee.

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Originally Posted by LYK08

Alright I shall sum up the new viable and favourable policies thus far

1. Anti-monopolist Cap Rate of 10 gralat per minute levied on gang leaders of gangs with base hours of more than 5000 hours.

2. "Duty and administration" fee for trading goods of base value with a minimum of 100k gralats on buyers.

3. Area Rent for Pkers near bases during forts.

4. Land Lease fee for basing gangs with more than 5k hours of 5k gralats for holding a second base.

As you can see, there aren't any taxes here. It's all administration fee.

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Lyk, players simply don't want to play a game that punishes them for being on top. I know you wont see it as a punishment, but thats what it is to them. We need to find ways to encourage players to base and PK that don't involve them having to pay to win. Players already spend too much for little reward. Physically separating top tier gangs from the rest is probably the best solution we have at the moment, as it allows the lower tier gangs to compete amongst themselves before challenging the top tier gangs. im not sure why the basing fort hasn't been implented but i really hope that its still going ahead.

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Originally Posted by LYK08

Alright I shall sum up the new viable and favourable policies thus far

1. Anti-monopolist Cap Rate of 10 gralat per minute levied on gang leaders of gangs with base hours of more than 5000 hours.

2. "Duty and administration" fee for trading goods of base value with a minimum of 100k gralats on buyers.

3. Area Rent for Pkers near bases during forts.

4. Land Lease fee for basing gangs with more than 5k hours of 5k gralats for holding a second base.

As you can see, there aren't any taxes here. It's all administration fee.

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Okay, you're the only one that thinks these are favourable.

Please stop.
(I know it sounds ignorant but it's kinda annoying how people keep flagging you down and you're still persistent on pushing these agendas.)
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Rewards > punishments

Maybe give a bonus to newer gangs when they base?

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Originally Posted by Casey

Lyk, players simply don't want to play a game that punishes them for being on top. I know you wont see it as a punishment, but thats what it is to them. We need to find ways to encourage players to base and PK that don't involve them having to pay to win. Players already spend too much for little reward. Physically separating top tier gangs from the rest is probably the best solution we have at the moment, as it allows the lower tier gangs to compete amongst themselves before challenging the top tier gangs. im not sure why the basing fort hasn't been implented but i really hope that its still going ahead.

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I agree with Casey. I think the base fortress will solve many problems and bring competition back into the game. I just hope it's still being developed.

ok after much thinking this is what I'm suggesting

LYK Foundation Central Basing Fund

Basically, gangs with at least 3k hours and are in the leaderboards for base hours for the week will receive a weekly payout called the LYK Foundation Weekly Premium.
Payout is calculated as follows: (total hours in a week (168 hours) - hours that the gang has attained for the week )x 10


The amount will be given to each member. Which means that the more the gang bases, the less they get.
If a gang gets 100 hours for the week (suggesting high level of dominance over a base), the payout they get per member will be (168-100)x10 = 680 gralats. However, if a gang bases for 2 hours and made it into the leaderboards, the payout they get is (168-2)x110 = 1660 gralats. So gang leaders will have to decide how they want to conduct their business to get a good balance between getting base hours and getting the LYK payout. Do note that they have to be in the leaderboards to receive this payout, so it discourages gangs from slacking too much to get the money but it also discourages against monopoly.

Of course, the Lyk foundation payout will be funded by Era Bank, not me :p

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If you know that 5 hours per week for a gang who doesnt 'peace' any gang is alrdy very hard? Your foundation does not help any new gangs. Basing is made for strategy and skill not money game.

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The thing we need is to prevent a very experienced gang like obsidian nbk m2s from making new gang tag. There is a lot of new gangs but they are all branches of experienced gangs. Multiple gang tags problably is one of the main reason which lead to monopolizing bases.

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ok after much thinking this is what I'm suggesting

LYK Foundation Central Basing Fund

Basically, gangs with at least 3k hours and are in the leaderboards for base hours for the week will receive a weekly payout called the LYK Foundation Weekly Premium.
Payout is calculated as follows: (total hours in a week (168 hours) - hours that the gang has attained for the week )x 10


The amount will be given to each member. Which means that the more the gang bases, the less they get.
If a gang gets 100 hours for the week (suggesting high level of dominance over a base), the payout they get per member will be (168-100)x10 = 680 gralats. However, if a gang bases for 2 hours and made it into the leaderboards, the payout they get is (168-2)x110 = 1660 gralats. So gang leaders will have to decide how they want to conduct their business to get a good balance between getting base hours and getting the LYK payout. Do note that they have to be in the leaderboards to receive this payout, so it discourages gangs from slacking too much to get the money but it also discourages against monopoly.

Of course, the Lyk foundation payout will be funded by Era Bank, not me :p

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No one likes your idea. Why do you continue to push it? Are you some kid who took Eco-101 at a community college that thinks he's smart now?

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No one likes your idea. Why do you continue to push it? Are you some kid who took Eco-101 at a community college that thinks he's smart now?

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you gotta explain why you disagree. Step-by-step tutorial to answering a forum post being taught to you rn.

You guys are being hard on LYK08

LYK, please dab on them haters and continue your preaching

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you gotta explain why you disagree. Step-by-step tutorial to answering a forum post being taught to you rn.

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Well, I'm not obligated. I had no intentions to argue with you. Am I not free to express my thoughts? Lol?

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