Your such a idiot dude I hope you honestly get Fired.
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Your such a idiot dude I hope you honestly get Fired.
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bye, see you in 2 weeksQuote:
Originally Posted by Xur
Ggwp bitsam i used to look up on you, u nerfed buyable guns and yet you left auction guns untcouched, this is not a good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiTzSam
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U wanted a skill based spar and you didnt think this will affect pk, now bar gets 500 kill per day i seeQuote:
Originally Posted by Celestial
I honestly think you don't read anything. You have said that 3 times in this thread and I have answered you every time. THE MAJORITY OF THE AUCTION GUNS HAVE ALSO BEEN CHANGED.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial
Did you even read the list of guns?
And yes I did think it would effect pk, these changes weren't made just for spar it was made for everything
Look at metal storm stronger than gm4 3 times
Complex has about 500 people yelling at him lollQuote:
Originally Posted by JungleJimmy
Mtarx still very fast unlike this bars and gm4, what u did in ump45 made ak47 better, btw i only have gm4, and pbp, but stillQuote:
Originally Posted by Celestial
I don't see what's wrong with the changes tbh. The majority is upset due to that stats have been lowered, but overall it is better since it's more of an even playing field for the rest of era, this was needed, moreover this upsetting moment that everyone is feeing will die down and will just have to adapt to new changes, as this will create a new Meta in 2d shooting.
Metalstorm is the new thing lol, Sam I have a question did you forget about that or it doesn't need a nerf in your opinion, just asking?
no complex has around 50 people yelling whilst the other 2100 people online are going about their dayQuote:
Originally Posted by Xur
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I didn't forget about it I just didn't feel it needed a rebalance. Good stats but high spread can make it unreliable- High firerate with moderate freeze means you are stuck in place if you spam too much. Will be watching it during the week to see whether it can remain the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by Grandpa Illusions
yeah those 2100 players you're talking about are the ones you mentioned that are at start and astro
I said the guns would maintain their heirarchy. MTARX was always similar to the p2k statistically. Compare mtarx with dual p2ks and you will see why the changes are fairQuote:
Originally Posted by Celestial
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Yea and they aren't complaining. give it a few days and those people might actually start to pk now that they will have somewhat of a chance and don't need a 120k plus gun just to be able to kill more than 1 person in a life in baseQuote:
Originally Posted by Alessio S Gohshuks
It's very similar to old bar, except it has lower freeze I think and the damage is lower. Idk you could nerf the clip and/fire rate that's the only thing I can foresee but you're the GA.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiTzSam
They aren't complaining cause they have no clue of what's going on and they're afk.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiTzSam
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Attachment 30612
My Opinion,
At first I was with this movement, but I actally put some thought into it and did alittle of my own research. BitzSam is right all you really do see is GM4, BAR,P2Ks,PSGs, or any other high teir gun. Like really you guys? You keep saying the administration is killing Era, it is actually "You" killing era. I can see you guys how most of you are mad beacause he nerfed weapons, but get this. They are still basically better then any gun that is cheaper then them. BitzSam isnt cluelessly dumb to make them worthless he only made them balanced enough for actual skilled players to be able beat the current boosters and spammers, He had been playing Graal in general longer then most of us have. And I started out in 2012, and explain to me how does a 2016 player already have +100k Kills, +50k spar wins, along with all +5 in game High teir guns, not to mention and spar/PK weapons and like +900k gralats waiting to buy the next op gun like fish and bait? Clearly this is a paying to win player, just to be overpowered and to look cool with his green goggles. He has like x10 more then what took me forever, years to get and even today I still can't be able to match him out without his overpowerness. Now that ive explained do you see how unfair that is? There are about several hundreds of other weapons you guys can be experiencing with just to make yourselves better. But you choose not to? Apparently you guys love being overpowered that is why MPX is dead, Anero peacefully tried adding "equality" using multiplex but you still choose not to participate in it. So i applaud and thank BitzSam for taking all the hate and force feeding "gun quality" into your throats. And the sad thing is that he is barely changing about 5% of Eras weaponary and you guys are flipping out telling someone you don't even know to "Go kill themselves". Over a 2D game?! Like wow freeze frame! Is a 4 x 12 pixel gun really that important in your life someone has to die over it? Lol your joking? For real be mature beacuase words you say in game are lethal weapons and even though you dont think they will and they can and will really tear someones life apart in a heart beat. What you guys are complaining about can be x10 worse then what you guys are seeing it now. If you really want to see how rough it is go try play ******** with the player base count of 100 players. And complaining about getting your money back through era is not the right way to do it. If you really want your money back it isn't that hard to contact Google/Apple to get a refund.
Im So TRIGGERED
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Originally Posted by Kriole
If you are quitting pm me i will take care of your account
Mothers day is the day where era changed. Rip People who wasted money on these guns :) Good Job Sam
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Lmao..Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial
This is actually interesting, getting players to look for different guns and playstyles.
Is it final or ur going to change other guns like m107 and pbp
Name - BAR
Freeze - 0.2
Firerate - 0.24 0.3
Spread - 0.062 0.08
Clip - 20
Reload - 0.35 0.5
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - N
Personal opinion on the nerf, the bar's new firerate is a bit too slow even with the tap potential. This patch has benefitted spar way more than it did basing, which is what I metioned before and feared. I have never seen a need to find a reason to counter a nerf in graal ever before, so this is a first for me. The new stats on bar needs to be slightly buffed. The new stats make it way too slow for basing purposes. Yes, it is encouraging more people to start basing but not for 'skill'. Rather it is encouraging people to start rushing the flag more, in numbers, as the new stats made it easier to do so without being punished as easily. Which is not 'skill'.
With this in mind, this is my suggestion for the proposed buff:
Name - BAR
Freeze - 0.2 0.21
Firerate - 0.24 0.3 0.28
Spread - 0.062 0.08 0.07
Clip - 20
Reload - 0.35 0.5 0.45
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - N
I agree with himQuote:
Originally Posted by PINEHONEY
Ok here's a way to keep people happy.
1.) Allow the Bar and Gm4 to have regular stats back ONLY in a base.
2.) Increase the firerate of All the auction guns and vector
3.) Compensate for the nerfs and allow 1-3 refunds of 50% off
4) Fix the gas launcher, since when was that a problem man come on, I don't even have one and you destroyed it
If you didn't know this nerf was wrong you wouldn't have cleared my status about this when it had no profanity or slurs in it that would cause it to be cleared. Just accept the fact that you messed up.
Well thought out. I will agree the bar was over powered compared to other guns; that's why it was worth 200k. I don't have a problem with balance and decreasing its power, I just feel the nerf may be a bit drastic on it (not worth 200k in its current state).Quote:
Originally Posted by PINEHONEY
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Rip bar
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Thats Why The Bar Worth 200k it Should be OP lmao!
Um u forgot to nerf the starter guns
I hope admins are not just changing things without caring players' thoughts, these nerfs are horrible, especially for the bar, it should reduce the price according to the rate of nerf. No matter what it is still unfair to players who bought the gun which prefer its good right before it nerf! If you nerf every gun that you think it is too OP then whats the use of having different guns? Balancing all guns? Why not making all guns the same then.
#MakeBarCheapPrice!!
First off kriole, whilst some the Hate towards BItz is a bit Over the top, its only to be expected. Also I think its stupid how you try to resolve conflict by insulting the haters, responding to hate & insult will only result in more hate & insults a vicious cycle. Also as good as what Bitz said about this will attract new users & gun variety no one truly knows yet if things will work out that way because no one ever truly asked those 2100 people at start why they don't bother to play the game ironically with each side claiming the 'majority'' those are the people who no one has bothered to ask & speak to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kriole
Its probably true the anti nerf represent the majority, they represent the majority of people who actually base.
Whilst the pro nerf is also potentially the majority, they represent the majority of people who is bored with the things that currently is probably because of the lack of gun variety.
But theres also a third majority, that is the third majority of people who just afk at start, no one truly knows if this change will make them base because no one ever bothered to ask them.
Everyone is just making assumptions & trying to justify it as if these so called majorities has the same interest.
Majority? Majority of who & with what interest?
This move could potentially not solve anything except pissing off a lot of the active pkers, basers, sparrers.
Do not be swept away by these so called statements like this is for the best & for the majority, whilst its nice to see altruistic, & I personally want a move that will make the game better but at the moment its still an unproven theory. Only thing I applaud Bitz is for the Bold move, but being bold doesn't always mean the right decision, but being bold will lead to lessons, lessons of what doesn't & does work, sometimes the solution to the problems isn't so obvious & it takes experimentation to work things out.
One thing you definitely don't wanna do is insult each other & name calling because you doing that only adds fuel to the flame, that will never wield anything other than destruction, hurtful feelings & divide.
Also there's 0 way of getting a refund from Graal because the owner Unixmad will never allow it & he doesn''t even play graal.
Also you should try empathising with the people who got their guns nerfed, yes its true Graal is a game but these people spent real money & real time on it.
You can try to justify the nerf by saying its till statistically better, but at the end of the day its still not what you payed for.
Imagine if you bought a car & next day the car company called saying they're going to nerf your car AFTER you've already paid for it. Sure its a game but its still the same feeling. You feel ripped off.
Would I have saved for Ion Carbine if I knew the only difference with M4 is lower freeze & extra 4 bullets but almost double the reload time? Doubtful.
But the nerf is what it is, its either going to be a stroke of genius or just outright altruistic & idealistic communism.
I'll still play albeit, maybe not as much because most guns only have minor differences also the risk of the gun stats being nerfed any time which makes it not worth saving for or I'll play more because basing has gotten more interesting who knows.
"Will attract new players"
???
the server can't handle more players lol.
New players meaining players who have joined the game who went to trading/ afking/ social/ astros because they didn't want to spend $60 to get a 120k just to be able to somewhat play the gameQuote:
Originally Posted by imaginary
I kinda agree with abcdefff. If making things equal is seriously gonna attract more New users then why not make all guns like multiplex gun then? Then everything would be equal & anyone who wins base definitely will be all skill although whether that'd attract new users & make them stay & is more satisfying because its all skill remains to be seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by abcdeffff
People work for hours to get gralats, and others pay thru itunes. So that they could get the gun they want... And now you meddled with the stats of the guns. Please try to remember that we paid for the gun not just by their looks. But also because of the stats that we were promised to get ffs.
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I worked in SP for hours (2-3k per hour) non stop, and usually do 10k gralats daily. I just bought shipka a few days ago after 2 weeks and a couple days of farming. Just to find it nerfed today, quite being ignorant just because you see people at astro displaying their luxury guns at Astro, thanks to you, so many people wants to quit because of your idiotic actions.
Lmao when i'm reading this thread i saw this
Name - BAR
Freeze - 0.2
Firerate - 0.24 0.3
Spread - 0.062 0.08
Clip - 20
Reload - 0.35 0.5
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - N
Seriously? What The Hell happen Sam?? To 24 (Speed) to 3 (Speed) make it fair like more speed Do you think SnK will be happy on this. Look what you did.. players are quiting beacuse bar got Nearf!!
iEra is now a kind of a Messy game!
I'm not starting to hate you but.. please respect snk's hard work.. before he left iEra
#BringBackOldBarSpeed!!
Not just bar dude, every gun that got nerfed i dont see a problem with the old guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by NCX