READ- Weapon Rebalancing

[imaginary]

Um u forgot to nerf the starter guns

[abcdeffff]

I hope admins are not just changing things without caring players' thoughts, these nerfs are horrible, especially for the bar, it should reduce the price according to the rate of nerf. No matter what it is still unfair to players who bought the gun which prefer its good right before it nerf! If you nerf every gun that you think it is too OP then whats the use of having different guns? Balancing all guns? Why not making all guns the same then.

[NCX]

#MakeBarCheapPrice!!

[Donald]

My Opinion,

At first I was with this movement, but I actally put some thought into it and did alittle of my own research. BitzSam is right all you really do see is GM4, BAR,P2Ks,PSGs, or any other high teir gun. Like really you guys? You keep saying the administration is killing Era, it is actually "You" killing era. I can see you guys how most of you are mad beacause he nerfed weapons, but get this. They are still basically better then any gun that is cheaper then them. BitzSam isnt cluelessly dumb to make them worthless he only made them balanced enough for actual skilled players to be able beat the current boosters and spammers, He had been playing Graal in general longer then most of us have. And I started out in 2012, and explain to me how does a 2016 player already have +100k Kills, +50k spar wins, along with all +5 in game High teir guns, not to mention and spar/PK weapons and like +900k gralats waiting to buy the next op gun like fish and bait? Clearly this is a paying to win player, just to be overpowered and to look cool with his green goggles. He has like x10 more then what took me forever, years to get and even today I still can't be able to match him out without his overpowerness. Now that ive explained do you see how unfair that is? There are about several hundreds of other weapons you guys can be experiencing with just to make yourselves better. But you choose not to? Apparently you guys love being overpowered that is why MPX is dead, Anero peacefully tried adding "equality" using multiplex but you still choose not to participate in it. So i applaud and thank BitzSam for taking all the hate and force feeding "gun quality" into your throats. And the sad thing is that he is barely changing about 5% of Eras weaponary and you guys are flipping out telling someone you don't even know to "Go kill themselves". Over a 2D game?! Like wow freeze frame! Is a 4 x 12 pixel gun really that important in your life someone has to die over it? Lol your joking? For real be mature beacuase words you say in game are lethal weapons and even though you dont think they will and they can and will really tear someones life apart in a heart beat. What you guys are complaining about can be x10 worse then what you guys are seeing it now. If you really want to see how rough it is go try play ******** with the player base count of 100 players. And complaining about getting your money back through era is not the right way to do it. If you really want your money back it isn't that hard to contact Google/Apple to get a refund.

First off kriole, whilst some the Hate towards BItz is a bit Over the top, its only to be expected. Also I think its stupid how you try to resolve conflict by insulting the haters, responding to hate & insult will only result in more hate & insults a vicious cycle. Also as good as what Bitz said about this will attract new users & gun variety no one truly knows yet if things will work out that way because no one ever truly asked those 2100 people at start why they don't bother to play the game ironically with each side claiming the 'majority'' those are the people who no one has bothered to ask & speak to.

Its probably true the anti nerf represent the majority, they represent the majority of people who actually base.
Whilst the pro nerf is also potentially the majority, they represent the majority of people who is bored with the things that currently is probably because of the lack of gun variety.
But theres also a third majority, that is the third majority of people who just afk at start, no one truly knows if this change will make them base because no one ever bothered to ask them.
Everyone is just making assumptions & trying to justify it as if these so called majorities has the same interest.
Majority? Majority of who & with what interest?
This move could potentially not solve anything except pissing off a lot of the active pkers, basers, sparrers.
Do not be swept away by these so called statements like this is for the best & for the majority, whilst its nice to see altruistic, & I personally want a move that will make the game better but at the moment its still an unproven theory. Only thing I applaud Bitz is for the Bold move, but being bold doesn't always mean the right decision, but being bold will lead to lessons, lessons of what doesn't & does work, sometimes the solution to the problems isn't so obvious & it takes experimentation to work things out.
One thing you definitely don't wanna do is insult each other & name calling because you doing that only adds fuel to the flame, that will never wield anything other than destruction, hurtful feelings & divide.
Also there's 0 way of getting a refund from Graal because the owner Unixmad will never allow it & he doesn''t even play graal.
Also you should try empathising with the people who got their guns nerfed, yes its true Graal is a game but these people spent real money & real time on it.
You can try to justify the nerf by saying its till statistically better, but at the end of the day its still not what you payed for.
Imagine if you bought a car & next day the car company called saying they're going to nerf your car AFTER you've already paid for it. Sure its a game but its still the same feeling. You feel ripped off.
Would I have saved for Ion Carbine if I knew the only difference with M4 is lower freeze & extra 4 bullets but almost double the reload time? Doubtful.
But the nerf is what it is, its either going to be a stroke of genius or just outright altruistic & idealistic communism.
I'll still play albeit, maybe not as much because most guns only have minor differences also the risk of the gun stats being nerfed any time which makes it not worth saving for or I'll play more because basing has gotten more interesting who knows.

[imaginary]

"Will attract new players"
???
the server can't handle more players lol.

[BiTzSam]

"Will attract new players"
???
the server can't handle more players lol.

New players meaining players who have joined the game who went to trading/ afking/ social/ astros because they didn't want to spend $60 to get a 120k just to be able to somewhat play the game

[Donald]

I hope admins are not just changing things without caring players' thoughts, these nerfs are horrible, especially for the bar, it should reduce the price according to the rate of nerf. No matter what it is still unfair to players who bought the gun which prefer its good right before it nerf! If you nerf every gun that you think it is too OP then whats the use of having different guns? Balancing all guns? Why not making all guns the same then.

I kinda agree with abcdefff. If making things equal is seriously gonna attract more New users then why not make all guns like multiplex gun then? Then everything would be equal & anyone who wins base definitely will be all skill although whether that'd attract new users & make them stay & is more satisfying because its all skill remains to be seen.

[Sho Minazuki]

People work for hours to get gralats, and others pay thru itunes. So that they could get the gun they want... And now you meddled with the stats of the guns. Please try to remember that we paid for the gun not just by their looks. But also because of the stats that we were promised to get ffs.

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I worked in SP for hours (2-3k per hour) non stop, and usually do 10k gralats daily. I just bought shipka a few days ago after 2 weeks and a couple days of farming. Just to find it nerfed today, quite being ignorant just because you see people at astro displaying their luxury guns at Astro, thanks to you, so many people wants to quit because of your idiotic actions.

[NCX]

Lmao when i'm reading this thread i saw this

Name - BAR
Freeze - 0.2
Firerate - 0.24 0.3
Spread - 0.062 0.08
Clip - 20
Reload - 0.35 0.5
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - N

Seriously? What The Hell happen Sam?? To 24 (Speed) to 3 (Speed) make it fair like more speed Do you think SnK will be happy on this. Look what you did.. players are quiting beacuse bar got Nearf!!

iEra is now a kind of a Messy game!
I'm not starting to hate you but.. please respect snk's hard work.. before he left iEra

#BringBackOldBarSpeed!!

[Celestial]

Lmao when i'm reading this thread i saw this

Name - BAR
Freeze - 0.2
Firerate - 0.24 0.3
Spread - 0.062 0.08
Clip - 20
Reload - 0.35 0.5
Bullets - 1
Auto - Y
Stacked - N

Seriously? What The Hell happen Sam?? To 24 (Speed) to 3 (Speed) make it fair like more speed Do you think SnK will be happy on this. Look what you did.. players are quiting beacuse bar got Nearf!!

iEra is now a kind of a Messy game!
I'm not starting to hate you but.. please respect snk's hard work.. before he left iEra

#BringBackOldBarSpeed!!

Not just bar dude, every gun that got nerfed i dont see a problem with the old guns.