Results after ''Weapon Rebalancing''

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Originally Posted by GenoIndeed

I've actually stopped playing due to all this, game feels too slow paced for me. And I feel I got ripped off for the G18 Akimbos since the rof isn't even close to what it was described and thats the reason I got the gun.

If the pacing of the game is changed, it will cause some people to stop playing due to it being mechanical and especially a personal thing. Whether you still worked with the pacing or not is fine and all, but personally I didn't enjoy it so I just decided to play other games. Hopefully this gets reworked somehow to where its faster paced again.

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You and many other only look at 1 gun after the nerf and forget about all the guns around it that were also nerfed.
Yes g18 is slower but so are almost all the other high firerate guns. G18 akimbo is still faster than almost every other 8-9 damage gun besides the P2K/ MTARX where is either the same or the difference is extremely minor.
If you were really a gun admin you would know that there are more stats than firerate such as the extremely high spread it has paired with the dual firing which increases that due to the alternating bullet positions making it incredibly hard to dodge.

Issue isn't the gun it's you, go figure out how to tap fire it properly or don't it's up to you

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Originally Posted by Donald

There is no long term benefit. I thought by giving you 1 month + to see past it you would open your eyes. How much longer do you need before you think we start seeing the benefits. You say that poll irrelevant well this one is pretty fair we can all only vote once. You are an idiot using using retarded logic saying people only buy its gun for the descriptions because the stats are not stated in the description you think you can do whatever you want.
Stop using long term as an excuse to hide the fact that you're failing right now.
You are so arrogant it is unbelievable do you think we like voicing our dissatisfaction?
Do you think all the people on the street who are pretesting love doing what they do?
Do you think we are voicing our discontent for no reason.
Honestly you're the admin you're supposed to fix problems not cause them.
Few hundred people out there voicing our opinion & you compare us to those afk noobs who don't even play the game?
I'd expect as admin you'd see the problem & try to fix it rather than cause it then ignore it. I''d expect you'd be more professional about it rather than blame us that the discussion went south. You''re an admin you're supposed to be professional an admin is supposed to remain unprovoked despite any circumstances. & try to resolve the issue rather than try to rationalise & fool yourself that theres nothing wrong & everythings perfectly okay despite all these people voicing their opinion that they feel cheated staring you in the face.
Honestly people like you should never have been given so much power.
Total arrogance disdain & contempt, no respect whatsoever for anyone who thinks otherwise unwillingness to listen to any sort of criticism total narcissistic ego maniac.

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You are wildly ignorant, as stated before it's useless even responding to your one-sided view. If you want to reasonings then maybe go read the actual stat change thread for once

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

You and many other only look at 1 gun after the nerf and forget about all the guns around it that were also nerfed.
Yes g18 is slower but so are almost all the other high firerate guns. G18 akimbo is still faster than almost every other 8-9 damage gun besides the P2K/ MTARX where is either the same or the difference is extremely minor.
If you were really a gun admin you would know that there are more stats than firerate such as the extremely high spread it has paired with the dual firing which increases that due to the alternating bullet positions making it incredibly hard to dodge.

Issue isn't the gun it's you, go figure out how to tap fire it properly or don't it's up to you

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You are wildly ignorant, as stated before it's useless even responding to your one-sided view. If you want to reasonings then maybe go read the actual stat change thread for once

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My views aren't one sided if you actually bother reading the thread & peoples review you'd actually know that. Doesn't matter if the guns are still better than the cheaper guns facts is they aren't as fun to use. Sure we could adapt but its a matter of taste. We just don't like the slow paced firing style.
You're just imposing the your own personal preference to playing the game on everyone else.
Even if people say they don't like the changes even if the afk noobs are still afking you still stand by your decision not because its the right decision but because its how you'd prefer & you think people should play the game rather than what people actually want in the game.

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These are some of the gun descriptions according to you we bought the gun for its descriptions & the descriptions is what we still have.

Candy Bazooka
This is a Candy Bazooka. The Candy Bazooka shoots an explosive pink ball which on impact causes 7 damage and an explosion! The clip size is ten.

You changed the damage to 6 & the clip to 5.

Morano Thompson
The Morano Thompson shoots only one bullets and deals 8 damage. Its has a clip size of 20 and it''s an automatic. It doesn't have very good accuracy.

You changed the clip to 30 & you took away the auto despite what the description says.

G36 Tactical
The G36 Tactical is an assault rifle that has a working grenade launcher. It does 8 damage with low freeze and decent rate of fire. It also has 15 clip.

Again despite the descriptions stating it has 15 clip & decent firerate. You went & changed the clip to 23 & slowed down the firerate from 0.2875 to 0.325.

According to you if the stats are not in the description therefore you can do whatever you want. Well these stats are in the descriptions so i guess by your same logic they should not
be tampered with.

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You keep saying that people who are happy with the changes don't go on the forums to voice their opinions.
Bitz I dare you to do a poll IN THE GAME like it pops up on their screen & everyone has to vote & I"'m confident you would still come up at the bottom.
We have probably maybe around 100 active registered users on ERA GO 40 of them voted it shows in the poll.
Could it be that most people just don't like the changes even after giving the guns a chance have you ever considered that??

How about you just make a spar room in the main area that only people using guns that cost under 100k can fire?
People with top guns will still be a contest of skill because they're using the same guns.
Theres more than one way to skin a cat no point pissing everyone off if what you say is really what people want then make it an option & let the people decide rather than decide in an authoritarian way that everyone has to follow.
That way people with the 100k + gun can still compete against each other & people with guns costing under 100k can compete & be the best in their gun level.
Think of it as like boxing theres heavy weight welter weight light weight & you just compete in your division.
Same with basing theres a lot more spaces left maybe create 2 new bases where only people with guns costing under 100k can fire.
There will still be other bases & spar rooms where top & mid tier guns can compete against each other but this way its a choice.

This thread is full of drama x.x

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Originally Posted by Key

This thread is full of drama x.x

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I love watching drama but only when they're being 'funny'.

Honestly, I don't play much anymore. But as an old player I logged in and saw this nerf and had no problems with it at all. It makes gameplay more skillful and less of a "pay to win" aspect with certain weapons. This happens in all games; stats are adjusted and etc. Pking is less spammy and more interesting in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Donald

My views aren't one sided if you actually bother reading the thread & peoples review you'd actually know that. Doesn't matter if the guns are still better than the cheaper guns facts is they aren't as fun to use. Sure we could adapt but its a matter of taste. We just don't like the slow paced firing style.
You're just imposing the your own personal preference to playing the game on everyone else.
Even if people say they don't like the changes even if the afk noobs are still afking you still stand by your decision not because its the right decision but because its how you'd prefer & you think people should play the game rather than what people actually want in the game.

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These are some of the gun descriptions according to you we bought the gun for its descriptions & the descriptions is what we still have.

Candy Bazooka
This is a Candy. The Candy shoots an explosive pink ball which on impact causes 7 damage and an explosion! The clip size is ten.

You changed the damage to 6 & the clip to 5.

Morano Thompson
The Morano Thompson shoots only one bullets and deals 8 damage. Its has a clip size of 20 and it''s an automatic. It doesn't have very good accuracy.

You changed the clip to 30 & you took away the auto despite what the description says.

G36 Tactical
The G36 Tactical is an assault rifle that has a working grenade launcher. It does 8 damage with low freeze and decent rate of fire. It also has 15 clip.

Again despite the descriptions stating it has 15 clip & decent firerate. You went & changed the clip to 23 & slowed down the firerate from 0.2875 to 0.325.

According to you if the stats are not in the description therefore you can do whatever you want. Well these stats are in the descriptions so i guess by your same logic they should not
be tampered with.

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You keep saying that people who are happy with the changes don't go on the forums to voice their opinions.
Bitz I dare you to do a poll IN THE GAME like it pops up on their screen & everyone has to vote & I"'m confident you would still come up at the bottom.
We have probably maybe around 100 active registered users on ERA GO 40 of them voted it shows in the poll.
Could it be that most people just don't like the changes even after giving the guns a chance have you ever considered that??

How about you just make a spar room in the main area that only people using guns that cost under 100k can fire?
People with top guns will still be a contest of skill because they're using the same guns.
Theres more than one way to skin a cat no point pissing everyone off if what you say is really what people want then make it an option & let the people decide rather than decide in an authoritarian way that everyone has to follow.
That way people with the 100k + gun can still compete against each other & people with guns costing under 100k can compete & be the best in their gun level.
Think of it as like boxing theres heavy weight welter weight light weight & you just compete in your division.
Same with basing theres a lot more spaces left maybe create 2 new bases where only people with guns costing under 100k can fire.
There will still be other bases & spar rooms where top & mid tier guns can compete against each other but this way its a choice.

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Actually, the Thompson is still auto, I should know, I have it.
It's much slower than it was, but if you get the taps in right, it gets the job done.
Clip size isn't bad either, I actually love the clip size. The lack of accuracy gets some good shots in too.
Don't get me wrong, the gun nerfs aren't great (and personally I totally disagree with the ACR buff), but some of these only make sense because of weapon patriarchy, and the slow-paced way these guns are shooting is just weird, but maybe that's because it's going to take some time to get used to.
I don't like it, but I understand why it's needed, and I respect that.

On a side note though; that ACR buff is plain crazy, but I'll live.

Mannnnnnm why you gotta nerf m4a3 bitz

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Originally Posted by BL1NK

Actually, the Thompson is still auto, I should know, I have it.
It's much slower than it was, but if you get the taps in right, it gets the job done.
Clip size isn't bad either, I actually love the clip size. The lack of accuracy gets some good shots in too.
Don't get me wrong, the gun nerfs aren't great (and personally I totally disagree with the ACR buff), but some of these only make sense because of weapon patriarchy, and the slow-paced way these guns are shooting is just weird, but maybe that's because it's going to take some time to get used to.
I don't like it, but I understand why it's needed, and I respect that.

On a side note though; that ACR buff is plain crazy, but I'll live.

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Acr wasn't buffed

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Originally Posted by BiTzSam

Acr wasn't buffed

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Darn. I think I just saw a hax0r and now I feel really dumb.
He had 3 hours. Oh whale.

I'm sorry about that mistake.

Name - Morano Thompson
Freeze - 0.19
Firerate - 3
Spread - 0.13
Clip - 30
Reload - 0.4
Bullets - 1
Auto - N
Stacked - N

These are the guns stats I got from Bitz's https://www.era-go.com/forum/showthr...aul-(OFFICIAL) thread.
The stats says its not auto. For you is it fully auto or semi auto?

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Originally Posted by Pulse

Honestly, I don't play much anymore. But as an old player I logged in and saw this nerf and had no problems with it at all. It makes gameplay more skillful and less of a "pay to win" aspect with certain weapons. This happens in all games; stats are adjusted and etc. Pking is less spammy and more interesting in my opinion.

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Pulse I'm sure logging in & having to change from the usually routine gives a sense of novelty but that doesn't mean the game is more skillful. There was a lot of top guns vs top guns before. If they're using the same guns then deciding factor is skill. The only way it might seem more skill based is if you're using an m4 & mid tier gun & you're going up against eg a BAR.
I mean if an M4 is beats a starter gun is that pay to win as well?
No right?
Imagine if I labelled that ''pay to win'''& then started nerfing the M4 I think most M4 users would be rightly pissed but from the starter gun view point the game is more ""skilled based play'' & less '' pay to win''

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To me it'd make more sense to separate the 100k above guns from the 100k below guns because its unfair to the 100k above guns to be punished because they rightfully have better stats.
That''d make more sense than to make midtier guns more low tier & Top tier guns more mid tier because there will always be people complaining the game is pay to win because there are guns that cost more than what they''re using.
It''d be obvious & impractical to do that every time that happens.
Imagine if everytime that''d happened i''d nerf the M4s firerate & my excuse is ill say this makes the game more skill based play requires more dodging & its less pay to win & M4 is still statistically better than starter gun.
It may be statistically more superior but I'll tell you to you a lot of people are going to feel cheated & the game is going to be less fun because your gun is slower now you''re forced to dodge more.
I mean is dodging more the only way that is skill based play?
Imagine M4 vs M4? Or BAR vs BAR.
Does it make sense to nerf M4 every time starter gun users complain or is it better to separate the two of them & let them compete with others on their same gun level because that way if they lose they''ll have no excuse except to blame themselves.