Okay basically I think the new way of applying is good but it does has some flaws, such as anyone can apply whenever and multiple times.
I can literally find out someones ID and apply for him and or make him look bad or not. This is unfair because what if someone secretly applies for you and makes your application bad. There is lots of way to find someones Graal ID by events when someone wins it shows, or asking, etc. Just my thoughts what do you think>?
You make a really nice point in your second statement. This would in fact be illegal in reality, but this is Graal and there really isn't much that they can do other than monitoring for future staff.
Hasn't the rule always been that applying multiple times will decrease your chances and/or not be read?
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Originally Posted by Peter
Someone can purposely apply multiple times for you to disqualify you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloak
Getting an ID from someone requires a lot of work, unless the player tell someone. Like what Kyle said it will disqualify you.
In trivia, anyone who gets a point you can see their ID.. Just saying, and in many other events you can too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amazing Ace
It's still confidential, just don't say it's yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by tahmaw
Even if you don't say it's yours someone can still just use an random ID without knowing who's it is, however if you do you can't enter the username in an application because you don't know who the ID belongs to..Quote:
Originally Posted by Amazing Ace
Hmm interesting, I don't see why you would enter more that one application, reading it twice won't change their minds.
Gain your knowledge & skills, if people know you well for who you are then it's fine.
Never change easily can result in better behavior for the application.
Why would an admin read your app if it contains troll answers? It doesn't make any sense for what they think of you.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by XSTARX
Because there might be some flaws doesn't mean it's rigged lol.
There was talk about having the application through era-go which would mean one account - one application (accounts must be linked to graal#s)
But im not sure if that was feasible or not
That sounds cleaner and more efficient, it would also bring an abundance of new members.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendhin
Aw but what if you used a different Email?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendhin
Before signing up there could be some sort of message saying to register using the email used for your graal one .Quote:
Originally Posted by Amazing Ace
In actuality there are tons of ways to fix this.
Well, accounts would have to be linked to a Graal# - so i din't think we'd consider players with 1 hour in game playtime and no items as contenders for PR :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Amazing Ace
Or unidentified lol
All of those are really no problems compared to THE REAL PROBLEM:
A lot of people are wasting their time filling out applications, fact is, friends of staff members are the only ones who stand a chance. It's a popularity contest. To me it doesn't really matter, I've never been interested in a position since I truly do not have the patience to deal with little kids, it is just not for me. But for people who truly aspire for a position, make sure you befriend a staff member and you have to be on your knees 24/7.
The concern about somebody "rigging an application" doesn't sound like much of a problem to me.
From my understanding from the OP's post, people can put in multiple applications.
Kind of a, "dust yourself off and try again" mentality.
This being said, I assume that consideration and recruitment are on an application-by-application basis; instead of an applicant-by-applicant basis.
And while it is possible to frame somebody with a bad application, again- the focus seems to be on the application, not the applicant.
So, if my assumption is correct, the applicant is only considered once the application is considered.
I'd be more worried about a fudged "good" application than a fudged "bad" application.
I wasn't friends with any staff and got hired through my application sooo I don't know where the whole "friend" part is an issue to be honest.
I don't think the application is rigged at all.
It provides a fair chance to all players to get a spot on the player relations team.
Anyways,a player which is friends with any of the pr team shouldn't be given a better chance as we applicants are supposed to be on equal ground with one another and not one on top of others.
Being friends with staff isn't an advantage in any sort.. It's all based on how well your application is, your attitude and your knowledge of iEra.
Technically having a staff recommendation improves your chances a bit, and the easiest way to get a recommendation is by being a staff's friend. That being said, I got hired without a recommendation. Personally I believe pr applications are a bit more 'rigged' than development related positions.
Here's why, pr positions are based entirely off what the person tells the hirer. This is a big chance because, well, quite simply, I can say whatever I want in an application, whether it's true or not. While development positions require proof of abilities in the form of past work/challenges as a part of the application.
The recommendation system causes a /slight/ advantage for friends of staff, however it makes sense and is quite fair if you think about it. Being a friend of a staff member gives you more exposure to that staff, and provides a better and more accurate picture of that individuals eligibility for the staff position. If an application asks "what is your personality like?" Only an idiot would say "my personality is rude and trashy". Most people will say they are funny, kind, and mature. These statements could be complete lies, however. Which is why having first-hand knowledge of someone's personality prier to being hired is a good thing(in the form of a recommendation)
Fortunately, if someone does not have a recommendation they are still fully capable of being hired in pr positions, so don't worry or hate on the recommendation system.
And your warnings :)
hhhm, but i think admins see ip of applying man, so they can just block that ip.
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i mean they can see that message was not from real user of that id account.
My man knocked it out of the park.Quote:
Originally Posted by rorriM
Generally speaking, I talk to anybody and everybody.
It makes the game much more enjoyable-- everything from basing, to trolling, to sparring.
And I actually consider most of the people I regularly come in contact with on Skype as my friends.
We have great times together, and spend a good deal of time laughing.
Let this be noted though: All friends of staff aren't recommendations.
As Rorrim pointed out, the connection provides an adequate idea of the person's eligibility; but the connection could also reveal one's ineligibility.
It takes a lot for a staff member to stick their neck out for somebody, as recommendations are a reflection on you, and could make or break credibility.
Simply being a friend doesn't automatically make you eligible.
It puts a stage in your pocket, upon which you could perform regularly.
As with any other proving ground, your performance on this stage could potentially help, or hurt your chances at getting the job.
Excellent point @meph
stahpQuote:
Originally Posted by Cloak
Ah. Yeah. By the way. I didn't know anyone from the staff team before I was hired.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Anakin