Future base system

Its weird most of the gangs that's basing in era rn is a new gangs and unfortunately not legit and meaning of not legit gangs this gangs that relies on peace gangs help and friends list to hold a base its more worst some of them just rec up who ever enters the base in my point of view something that can be done preventing this to happen which is making the bases works with standard align thats number 1 suggestion ,, the 2nd suggestion that everyday or week or month or hour the align of the base changes so the basers will fight up to get the base and it will end home basing and camping issues and it will decrease peace and relying on others it will make the basing more reality and giving new gangs to have a chance to hold a base the strongest get to hold the base
Base should be earned by fighting over it.


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Rip no one wants legit way


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same

if they wanted basing to be balanced they would've done it before, new gangs do have a chance. Look at bhades, they're new and they've successfully gotten over 600 hours, It's not if they're a new or and old gang

If anyone fails at starting a gang, they should find viable basers to help and lead. I didnt understand your reasons but it's not about if the gang is "New" or "Old" It's only about the players in them, you always see new gangs try to start basing every day in start "M4 or better to join" which get Nowhere.

tl;dr if you have over 300k kills and friends alike you can start a basing gang. if you have 7000 kills and friends alike, it's most likely not going to happen

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Originally Posted by Frasky

if they wanted basing to be balanced they would've done it before, new gangs do have a chance. Look at bhades, they're new and they've successfully gotten over 600 hours, It's not if they're a new or and old gang

If anyone fails at starting a gang, they should find viable basers to help and lead. I didnt understand your reasons but it's not about if the gang is "New" or "Old" It's only about the players in them, you always see new gangs try to start basing every day in start "M4 or better to join" which get Nowhere.

tl;dr if you have over 300k kills and friends alike you can start a basing gang. if you have 7000 kills and friends alike, it's most likely not going to happen

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BHades wouldn't be around had Duke not peaced with DarkSide, and the only reason Hades gains hours now is because of late-night PZ holds.
Sorry to say but you're wrong when you say that it doesn't matter if a gang is new or old, look at Obsidian. They've garnered support because they're reputable. They have players that have been around since 2013. The "peace gangs" system doesn't help either if you're a new guild.
No gangs will survive unless you're peaced with the map.
Another thing, it's hard to find ranks when these huge gangs have so much more to offer.

Real life relies on the skill of allying to achieve the upper hand, so why should basing be any different?

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Originally Posted by Xiang IV

Real life relies on the skill of allying to achieve the upper hand, so why should basing be any different?

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Well, in real life, no one runs around with a 10 damage gun or has a 50 health bar.
I do see what you mean though, but alliances in this game literally differ between a loss or a win in wars.
Look at it this way; let's say Graal Era Ninja Clan raids Gangster Zone and the parent base holder (GPN) is struggling to beat them. Obviously, what they'd do is recruit immensely in order to overpower GENC.
GENC can't gain hours because this will just keep happening to them again and again, that's why new gangs never live.
They're not supported as much.

The basing system needs to be redone in general. Forcing players to base for 2000 hours for a hat is kind of lame. Should be a point system like PC Era. Lets say a hat is 200,000 points and each point can be obtained by a kill inside the base. To make basing more competitive like Beo is wanting, you could make it so you would need to have the flag to gain points. Forcing players to go out and attack other bases when their is no one attacking(no free camping for hours).

Main point is to make the gangs move from one to another base and fight for it and stop camping in one base and to make the gangs rely on themselves without peace gangs or friends help
To make that happen a system should be made to the basses which will force them to rely more on themselves
Align way the members will have to pk out base to get the required align so they can enter the base , base should be earned not given we are talking about prizes should be earned not given away.


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Originally Posted by BlinkEra

Well, in real life, no one runs around with a 10 damage gun or has a 50 health bar.
I do see what you mean though, but alliances in this game literally differ between a loss or a win in wars.
Look at it this way; let's say Graal Era Ninja Clan raids Gangster Zone and the parent base holder (GPN) is struggling to beat them. Obviously, what they'd do is recruit immensely in order to overpower GENC.
GENC can't gain hours because this will just keep happening to them again and again, that's why new gangs never live.
They're not supported as much.

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I thought GENC Stopped basing a while back

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Originally Posted by Frasky

I thought GENC Stopped basing a while back

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It's an example..I don't know if they stopped basing or not.

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Originally Posted by Frasky

if they wanted basing to be balanced they would've done it before, new gangs do have a chance. Look at bhades, they're new and they've successfully gotten over 600 hours, It's not if they're a new or and old gang

If anyone fails at starting a gang, they should find viable basers to help and lead. I didnt understand your reasons but it's not about if the gang is "New" or "Old" It's only about the players in them, you always see new gangs try to start basing every day in start "M4 or better to join" which get Nowhere.

tl;dr if you have over 300k kills and friends alike you can start a basing gang. if you have 7000 kills and friends alike, it's most likely not going to happen

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Bhades are NOT new, I was apart of bhades in 2014. They share with navy and are peace with almost every successful gangs.


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Originally Posted by Beo

Its weird most of the gangs that's basing in era rn is a new gangs and unfortunately not legit and meaning of not legit gangs this gangs that relies on peace gangs help and friends list to hold a base its more worst some of them just rec up who ever enters the base in my point of view something that can be done preventing this to happen which is making the bases works with standard align thats number 1 suggestion ,, the 2nd suggestion that everyday or week or month or hour the align of the base changes so the basers will fight up to get the base and it will end home basing and camping issues and it will decrease peace and relying on others it will make the basing more reality and giving new gangs to have a chance to hold a base the strongest get to hold the base
Base should be earned by fighting over it.


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GnR family needs tachi, eh?

I disagree.
The fact that players can explot diplomacy with other gangs is their intellectual benefit. They are wise enough to make friends to assist them in basing, shouldn't they get the credits?
As you've said, bases should be earned by fighting for it. So if you want tachi, then fight for it. If I'm not wrong you Grim lost the base because of thee GrimObs warfare that lasted so long I think they can publish their own history books already.

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Originally Posted by lyk12345

GnR family needs tachi, eh?

I disagree.
The fact that players can explot diplomacy with other gangs is their intellectual benefit. They are wise enough to make friends to assist them in basing, shouldn't they get the credits?
As you've said, bases should be earned by fighting for it. So if you want tachi, then fight for it. If I'm not wrong you Grim lost the base because of thee GrimObs warfare that lasted so long I think they can publish their own history books already.

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Huh who said that gnr family wants tachi no one mentioned that!
Let me tell you how grim lost war grim was attacked by all gangs while chems where allowed we had no chems while ds had tons and tho obs and the rest of the gangs had some chems and yet it was hard to take us coz we are legit hence , you need to thank god that chems where allowed that time

And about making peaces to get benefits of it ok but current gangs peaces all the maps so when ever one of them get attacked u will find 3 gangs at least helping this gang and when i talked about non legit gangs those who fully depends on peace gangs to secure their base every time they lose it so basically new gangs got 0 chance to start basing coz of the peace and campaign in one base and if you said there is new gangs in era right now basing without mentioning names
They are just a branches of another gang you will find that they are the same basers just under new gang name so the system i suggested up will break this issues and will give more chance to new gangs to start basing

And a small request try to keep the discussion general without mentioning gangs names and point to a specific gangs thanks.

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#1 Gang become number #2 the end


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I'm doubtful the already established basing system would be reworked, and if it was that could be fun, but could be disappointing to some. Introducing more unique bases could help new gangs establish somewhat, but also brings the possibility of old gangs taking over. I don't think there's an easy solution, at all. Usually the formula for old gangs is complete their hours, then move onto a new gang (as seen by obsidian and iFreeze) basically, I assume for more rewards.

Simply put. The system in place works IMO. The issue comes from finding good players who aren't already loyal to a well know gang, who will take a risk on a new gang, and who want to put in the lead effort to take a small fry gang and make it something self sustaining. So the question shouldn't be "how do we fix a broken system", but rather "how can we even the playing field between a large gang (recruit with ease, active sub gang, kik communication, has allies) and the small guy (people aren't as eager to join, doesn't get assistance from other gangs). One radical possibility I see is restructuring the amount of people allowed in a gang and nerf sub-gangs; this would never fly though with the community so consider it just an example of what I mean.

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Huh who said that gnr family wants tachi no one mentioned that!
Let me tell you how grim lost war grim was attacked by all gangs while chems where allowed we had no chems while ds had tons and tho obs and the rest of the gangs had some chems and yet it was hard to take us coz we are legit hence , you need to thank god that chems where allowed that time

And about making peaces to get benefits of it ok but current gangs peaces all the maps so when ever one of them get attacked u will find 3 gangs at least helping this gang and when i talked about non legit gangs those who fully depends on peace gangs to secure their base every time they lose it so basically new gangs got 0 chance to start basing coz of the peace and campaign in one base and if you said there is new gangs in era right now basing without mentioning names
They are just a branches of another gang you will find that they are the same basers just under new gang name so the system i suggested up will break this issues and will give more chance to new gangs to start basing

And a small request try to keep the discussion general without mentioning gangs names and point to a specific gangs thanks.

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There should be 2 bases at countryside that are for gangs starting up. Let's say one base ONLY allows gangs that have 1k or less then the second base is for 1k-2k.

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Originally Posted by Silver the Cat

Simply put. The system in place works IMO. The issue comes from finding good players who aren't already loyal to a well know gang, who will take a risk on a new gang, and who want to put in the lead effort to take a small fry gang and make it something self sustaining. So the question shouldn't be "how do we fix a broken system", but rather "how can we even the playing field between a large gang (recruit with ease, active sub gang, kik communication, has allies) and the small guy (people aren't as eager to join, doesn't get assistance from other gangs). One radical possibility I see is restructuring the amount of people allowed in a gang and nerf sub-gangs; this would never fly though with the community so consider it just an example of what I mean.

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True maybe no more sub gangs that would help a lot just imagine there is no subs so we are talking about a limit members that a gang can have 25 members peace gangs can still be there but wont be effective much it will make the gangs thats basing depend more on themselves .... coz subs actually where most peace gangs members joins so they auto tag sub tag and help base.


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Originally Posted by N!chola$

There should be 2 bases at countryside that are for gangs starting up. Let's say one base ONLY allows gangs that have 1k or less then the second base is for 1k-2k.

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Only 2? I think more as i heard its a bigger or same size as current map [emoji901] still the branch gangs will go there base and get the help from main gang and peace gangs still wont change anything. It will just allow more branch gangs to go there.


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